The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 21:52    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
VonMises wrote:
ixigia wrote:
There was a remote possibility for me to buy this game, but now it has completely vanished. Laughing


So u won't buy the game because CD Projekt don't approve piracy?


I didn't like their hilariously poor and pathetic attempt to face the problem instead of staying silent on the matter and sell millions of copies of their overpriced product.
I would have liked to try the game before spending money on it, but apparently this is not possible since my privacy is going to be raped and a SWAT team is going to break in my house as soon as I start utorrent*.

*It's a hypothetic scenario, nobody uses torrents in 2010 anyway.


I use torrents(not piece of trash public sites) and they won't find me or break my door down.

Anyway indeed this turned me off from even thinking about buying the game.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 21:54    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
ixigia wrote:
VonMises wrote:


So u won't buy the game because CD Projekt don't approve piracy?


I didn't like their hilariously poor and pathetic attempt to face the problem instead of staying silent on the matter and sell millions of copies of their overpriced product.
I would have liked to try the game before spending money on it, but apparently this is not possible since my privacy is going to be raped and a SWAT team is going to break in my house as soon as I start utorrent*.

*It's a hypothetic scenario, nobody uses torrents in 2010 anyway.


I use torrents(not piece of trash public sites) and they won't find me or break my door down.

Anyway indeed this turned me off from even thinking about buying the game.


Yup I meant public trackers Razz
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 21:54    Post subject:
Probably best game what is released at 2011, and you guys are not buying it because CD Projekt doesnt approve piracy ^_^.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 21:59    Post subject:
lol who does? Cool Face

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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 22:06    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Probably best game what is released at 2011, and you guys are not buying it because CD Projekt doesnt approve piracy ^_^.

Absolutely correct. 10 experience points for succeeding in understanding what was being discussed in the last 6-7 posts!
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 22:17    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Probably best game what is released at 2011, and you guys are not buying it because CD Projekt doesnt approve piracy ^_^.


Yeah it's clearly because they don't support piracy.

I'm just waiting for them to turn into the RIAA.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 22:39    Post subject:
Well it's not the only higher profile release that used this approach. At least they are upfront about their intentions, unlike the previous attempts by other publishers. All they intend to do is to scare off some of the mainstream pub torrent crowd from mass leeching it day-one.
They are making a PC-only release at the moment, with a high-budget game, if people want things like that to keep happening, the game's got to sell, so I am guessing they are trying to improve the odds of that happening.
I think it's in our best interests that they succeed as well and this kind of approach is better than some crappy DRM, I'd say. The more informed people still have other ways of getting their games aside from pub torrents anyway.

It does seem a little "out of character" considering how they boasted about their sale numbers when announcing the sequel: PC gaming not dead/piracy not an issue and all that. Still, not sure if I'd change my mind about buying the game because of that. Seems kinda unreasonable. But I never intended to buy it anyway, so I am not the one to talk Smile


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me7




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 22:49    Post subject:
It may be a shock to you guys, but NO game developer approves piracy.
I don't see how this suddenly makes them evil?
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peter980




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2010 23:00    Post subject:
With all said, Witcher had whole first chapter (out of 5) available in its game demo, which is pretty refreshing compared to mostly poor demos other games get (if any).
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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 08:11    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
Well it's not the only higher profile release that used this approach. At least they are upfront about their intentions, unlike the previous attempts by other publishers. All they intend to do is to scare off some of the mainstream pub torrent crowd from mass leeching it day-one.
They are making a PC-only release at the moment, with a high-budget game, if people want things like that to keep happening, the game's got to sell, so I am guessing they are trying to improve the odds of that happening.
I think it's in our best interests that they succeed as well and this kind of approach is better than some crappy DRM, I'd say. The more informed people still have other ways of getting their games aside from pub torrents anyway.

It does seem a little "out of character" considering how they boasted about their sale numbers when announcing the sequel: PC gaming not dead/piracy not an issue and all that. Still, not sure if I'd change my mind about buying the game because of that. Seems kinda unreasonable. But I never intended to buy it anyway, so I am not the one to talk Smile


This is quite a common procedure for the movie and recording industries.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 08:36    Post subject:
Preordered on steam. <3 The first Witcher.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 09:22    Post subject:
tainted4ever wrote:
Preordered on steam. <3 The first Witcher.


Not bad! But still, IMO, the "proper" ownership of this game requires one to have a box. A game and it's box is... well... another story. Wink

Don't get me wrong, I own and will buy games on Steam; mostly multiplayer ones, but the proper proof (and pleasure) of owning the game, as in it's box, is quite more rewarding. You keep it in your hands and hop around the house while kids stare and the game installs... you read the game manual while taking a dump... you put the box on your desk near your display and start grinning in a perpetuum idiot way...

Owning and paying for "numbers" is still new and "1984"-ish for me. And yeah... I know... this system is the future... So then call me old fashioned. Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 09:45    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
Preordered on steam. <3 The first Witcher.


Not bad! But still, IMO, the "proper" ownership of this game requires one to have a box. A game and it's box is... well... another story. Wink

Don't get me wrong, I own and will buy games on Steam; mostly multiplayer ones, but the proper proof (and pleasure) of owning the game, as in it's box, is quite more rewarding. You keep it in your hands and hop around the house while kids stare and the game installs... you read the game manual while taking a dump... you put the box on your desk near your display and start grinning in a perpetuum idiot way...

Owning and paying for "numbers" is still new and "1984"-ish for me. And yeah... I know... this system is the future... So then call me old fashioned. Smile
Oh I completely agree with you. Its just that I live in a one room apartment, so where in the world would I put the boxes? Razz Besides, Steam is convenient and I'm used to it. Old habits die hard Smile
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W123




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 09:58    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
Preordered on steam. <3 The first Witcher.


Not bad! But still, IMO, the "proper" ownership of this game requires one to have a box. A game and it's box is... well... another story. Wink

Don't get me wrong, I own and will buy games on Steam; mostly multiplayer ones, but the proper proof (and pleasure) of owning the game, as in it's box, is quite more rewarding. You keep it in your hands and hop around the house while kids stare and the game installs... you read the game manual while taking a dump... you put the box on your desk near your display and start grinning in a perpetuum idiot way...

Owning and paying for "numbers" is still new and "1984"-ish for me. And yeah... I know... this system is the future... So then call me old fashioned. Smile


10 years ago I'd agree with you.. but nowadays, the manual tends to be pretty crap (sorry to sound like an old fart). Shit I have my Baldur's Gate manual somewhere around here, must be 300+ pages. Even a simple game like Diablo 1 had a huge, interesting manual with a lot of lore and helpful hints and such. Plus even the most organized gamer has lost a disc... it is a pain in the ass when you just want to play Diablo 2 and have to go pay 5 bucks for a cd key Surprised
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OLime




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 17:05    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
10 years ago I'd agree with you.. but nowadays, the manual tends to be pretty crap (sorry to sound like an old fart). Shit I have my Baldur's Gate manual somewhere around here, must be 300+ pages. Even a simple game like Diablo 1 had a huge, interesting manual with a lot of lore and helpful hints and such. Plus even the most organized gamer has lost a disc... it is a pain in the ass when you just want to play Diablo 2 and have to go pay 5 bucks for a cd key Surprised


This might be true for more than 90 % of boxed games today but certainly not in this case. Just take a look at the standard retail box of TW2. Other companies charge for such a rich box and label it Collector's/Limited/whatever Edition.

And btw., I am an organzied gamer for 25+ years and have never lost a single cd/disc/cartridge and never got a scratch or worse on my stuff. Hence no need for friggin' Steam here Very Happy .
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 17:31    Post subject:
So... the GOG edition of the game will be stripped of any DRM in order to make it heavy torrent-able (and pleasing a few legit buyers while they're at it, I guess Very Happy ) therefore enabling CDProjekt to sue the illegal downloaders for tons of money.

What a cunning plan.


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 17:37    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
So... the GOG edition of the game will be stripped of any DRM in order to make it heavy torrent-able (and pleasing a few legit buyers while they're at it, I guess Very Happy ) therefore enabling CDProjekt to sue the illegal downloaders for tons of money.

What a cunning plan.


They'll probably upload it on the yarr bay a couple of days early Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 20:08    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
tonizito wrote:
So... the GOG edition of the game will be stripped of any DRM in order to make it heavy torrent-able (and pleasing a few legit buyers while they're at it, I guess Very Happy ) therefore enabling CDProjekt to sue the illegal downloaders for tons of money.

What a cunning plan.


They'll probably upload it on the yarr bay a couple of days early Laughing


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The Witcher 2
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Installation

1. Unpack and mount with your daemon tools or burn it.

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3. Just hit witcher2.exe (No crack needed)

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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 20:36    Post subject:
We are going to jail, so we are all fucking then. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 20:44    Post subject:
Noooooo, I will not download that release because if I do so they will find out that I keep those pornstar whores hostages Crying or Very sad.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2010 20:59    Post subject:
ivan1real wrote:
We are going to jail, so we are all fucking then. Cool Face

Heh, I see what you did there Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 07:36    Post subject:
even if someone leaves the game in front of my door i won't bother picking it up Laughing
2 clicks is easier > begin download .
and everybody knows the installation is faster from a HDD . Very Happy





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Tdoggg1




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 08:10    Post subject:
this will cause some people to get mad and not buy it out of anger. I will buy it if i like it, wonder how many people will get a letter who never ilegally downloaded it? Could be a problem.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 09:56    Post subject:
chiv is a sad sad panda Sad

only see a listing in NZ for a 'premium' edition, which is incredibly stripped down and doesnt have anywhere near as much cool shit in it as the collectors edition does...

will be happy panda if collectors edition does eventually make it here though Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 10:01    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
chiv is a sad sad panda Sad
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No, according to you DP you are a SAD KITTY.




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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 11:21    Post subject:
Tdoggg1 wrote:
this will cause some people to get mad and not buy it out of anger. I will buy it if i like it, wonder how many people will get a letter who never ilegally downloaded it? Could be a problem.

Also the problem might be, how can I prove one day I bought the GoG.com copy legally and didn't download it from somewhere? Since there is no activation, serial key or whatever, and the e-mail receipt is... well, just an e-mail.
I just might stick to boxed version.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 13:51    Post subject:
The guy is just venting ideas, this one being impossible. I assume they'll spread a torrent version and log the IPs connected to it. All that effort, in many countries, going through all that legal shit. No company would go through all that crap.
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xxax
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 15:19    Post subject:
I don't see how anyone can be upset by the idea... I mean the legit customers get a DRM-free. That's good isn't it? I mean no way i'm buying it since i never buy games, but at least they aren't screwing their customers with draconian DRM like Ubisoft for example? Of course they are anti-piracy, i would be too if i was a game developer.

And when i download the game (from a private tracker) if by some miracle i get the letter, i look forward to seeing them sue me with our legal system already totally backed up with 150000+ unsolved cases and judges who don't even understand what downloading means...
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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 15:41    Post subject:
There is no way for anyone to get details about who is behind IP address blah without a warrant where I live AFAIK. Some ISPs will bend over to make it seem like they're doing the real thing like accepting infringement letters but then sending them through the shredder.

Dudes: IP blah is infringing on our contents
ISP: We don't care
Nothing happens

What they are doing is cashing in on clueless noobs, clueless potentially innocent noobs. People can't afford a law suit even if they're in the right.
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Nov 2010 15:51    Post subject:
Its just a tactic to scare people. Sending me a letter lol, I'll send them back the trollface.
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