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Steve-O 2004




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 16:13    Post subject: How much improvement will I see if....
How much improvement will I see if I upgrade my Ram from 512MB PC133 SDRam to 512MB PC3200 DDR Ram ??

Currently my system is -

AMD Athlon XP 1600+
512MB PC133 SDRam
Geforce 4 ti4200 128mb

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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 16:22    Post subject:
Does your mobo support DDR?
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 17:29    Post subject:
yea It Supports both DDR and SDRam Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 17:47    Post subject:
Id say a fair amount, and it would be a start towards building a new system. I don't see why buying the ram would be a bad idea!
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 19:09    Post subject:
Well buying a new socket A cpu aint bad either and not expensive!


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 19:28    Post subject:
buying DDR ram is not a very smart idea at the moment. All new intel chipsets are already using DDR2 ram, and all future amd platforms will use DDR2 as well, so you can't use the DDR memory in a new system
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:59    Post subject:
DDR2 is expensive and does sometimes perform worse than high quality ddr1. But things could have changed in the latest months. Dunno
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 22:12    Post subject:
but wont DDR2 require a New Motherboard?? and Im not spending anymore than £30 Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 22:15    Post subject:
Yes it would. And there are only DDR2 supported motherboards for Intel Prescott cpu's. Just buy yourself some decent low latency DDR1 sticks.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 23:42    Post subject:
New Intel chipsets come in DDR1 and DDR2 forms Smile.. depends on the motherboard, but there are DDR1 boards that are new Smile.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 11:27    Post subject:
Yes, you're right. I may have expressed myself wrong but I meant that DDR2 is only available for Intel Prescott today, not that Intel only is compatible with DDR2. AMD64 motherboards with DDR2 will come soon.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 12:22    Post subject:
whoKnows wrote:
buying DDR ram is not a very smart idea at the moment. All new intel chipsets are already using DDR2 ram, and all future amd platforms will use DDR2 as well, so you can't use the DDR memory in a new system


I was aiming it more at Smile! Pah, Whoknows, your always causing confusion Razz! Do you guys really think DDR2 is worthwhile at this present time?
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 12:51    Post subject:
Nope, it needs lower latency and I would rather use a AMD64. The Intel EM64 ones aren't really performing so well today.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 18:59    Post subject:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?RAM-40%2f512

Thats teh one Im getting... Any good ?


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 19:04    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
I was aiming it more at Smile! Pah, Whoknows, your always causing confusion Razz! Do you guys really think DDR2 is worthwhile at this present time?


me causing confusion? Surprised ...will never happen Wink Laughing

You guys weren't getting my point. I'm not claiming that DDR2 is faster a the moment, that's not the case. But (now comes the important part Wink ) if Steve-O 2004 spents some money on DDR ram and then gets a new system at the end of the year he can't use the ram he has bought a few months ago, so ddr ram is a waste of money right now (especially if you look at his specs (no offense Wink )
All new major platforms (read: chipsets Wink ) for amd and intel will use DDR2, it's already a jedec standard and ddr400 was the last offical jedec standard for ddr ram, so don't expect any improvements for ddr. So if i was to buy a new box right now i would go for a i915 with ddr2.

Edit: The difference in price isn't that big either:

DDR: http://www3.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=I9ID45&
DDR2: http://www3.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=I9IE47&
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 21:37    Post subject:
By the way how much diffrence i will see if i change my Intel P4 1.6 CPU
to Celeron 2.93D CPU ?
And does bying Asus P5P800 mother was a good thing to do?
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 22:16    Post subject:
Not much Lestat, Celeron is indeed a bad CPU for gaming, encoding etc


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 22:28    Post subject:
You will see a minor performance boost if you upgrade your video card to something last-gen (upgrading to current-gen is worthless because your mobo and CPU are a bottleneck). You would see a very nice performance boost if you upgraded to 1gb of DDR. Overall though, its probally better if you just build a new system.
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