Splinter Cell: Chaos theory thread
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antoniovivaldi




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 01:02    Post subject:
Wait, as it has been said a few times here: do not support SF by buying it. If Ubi experiences a boost in sales of SF protected games, you will see more of them soon.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 01:03    Post subject:
if its not out till wednesday iam going 2 buy it !!!
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swebarb




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 01:10    Post subject:
well before you buy look the SC forum tons of people installed the game and cant run it. and i bet you can guess why...
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 01:12    Post subject:
swebarb wrote:
well before you buy look the SC forum tons of people installed the game and cant run it. and i bet you can guess why...


why???
Razz

yes i know but the game is very cool and i want it !
a friend bought it allready i will check his bversion and if it works i will buy it wednesday

Wink


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 02:04    Post subject:
You know, on alot of the forums recently, ppl have been flaming others over SC3 as most u can tell, a highly anticipated game. While having 60 posts askin/bitchin about when the game is gunna come out is stupid, i dont think asking least once a day whats the deal?
I have always thought that the main groups should have some type of lastet update portal, whether it be a guy(s) who posts on certain forums or irc chan or something. From time to time ive seen on various boards someone saying a game is gunna hit the pre's in like 30 mins or something, and it really does.
Obviously someone has some kinda info
I mean, with all the ppl who use the internet for this purpose and post in forums, some of em must actually be "l33t"...as in they have access to topsites and or know the group who is cracking the release...not likely mind u, but its still a possibility and ive seen it

just my thought


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DVQ




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 02:08    Post subject:
shit i think im gonna buy it from a retailer on ebay


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Panoramix




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 03:07    Post subject:
just successfully made a backup of my splinter cell copy and it works fine even after i patched the game to vers.1.1- would be interesting to know if it also works when an alc. image is made from a mounted iso rip plus the offered mds file what can be found on www.copybase.ch. I'll check that out tomorrow and let you know...
I created my mds (high precision) with 1x speed and burned the image 4x. Afterwards I used starforce nightmare to disable my ata devices and put my backup in a usb 2.0 Toshiba 1712 device and did the reg hack. Works like a charm so far. By the way: mounting doesn't work for me and i encountered a weird problem when i tried to make a mds the first time; Starforce seemed to interfere and the progress didn't want to pass ~13%. I disabled the starforce service in my task manager and the problem was gone.

I uploaded my mds here for those who doesn't have the opportunity to create a good mds by themselfes due to incapable drives:
http://copybase.ch/Cb/PHPV2/Database/EntryDetails.php?Id=3257&SoftwareCP=&SoftwareCPVersion=&SoftwareName=splinter%20cell


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DVQ




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 03:27    Post subject:
wow sounds like you have come out with something dude, let us know if you find something more.


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c31




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 05:24    Post subject:
sorry for being an idiot, but is the sticky of the SCCT release on a gigabit stro real, or is it part of the whole april fools scheme pulled off earlier today.


Veteran Newbie =D
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DVQ




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 05:28    Post subject:
its a like a hook up for you to read the rules.


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DaMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 08:53    Post subject:
If SC:CT isn't out before next week, I'm gonna buy it.
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bum^




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:26    Post subject:
I installed the game and ive got alcohol, deamon and a lot of other shit installed. Ive even got another game mounted with deamon and the game just works fine.

It just sucks you need to reboot after install... Confused


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:30    Post subject:
i refuse to buy it, outta principle...dont wanna contribute to SF...like someone said earlier, if UBI notices sales of SF protected games are considerbly higher than those of SD,SR etc, most companies are gunna opt to use starforce and they technology is only gunna get more sophisticated...From what ive been reading, supposing one of the main groups got the game monday or tuesday (thats when it went on sale in sweden), they prolly cracked the game and are prolly now playing through it to make sure its complete. I seriously think it should be out anytime now..but then again, maybe its just wishfull thinking. Smile

IE
You can install the game fine, run the game fine. But then, u get to the second last level, and u need a key card to get through some door and because of sf, the key was removed when the protection was removed, thus not allowing you to continue the game...I'd be way more pissed if that happened, than having to wait.

Just hang on boys, im sure its being cracked/finished as we speak (or should i say post?).


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Gh0UL




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:35    Post subject:
DaMaster wrote:
If SC:CT isn't out before next week, I'm gonna buy it.

may I translate that into: "Ubisoft, you did the right thing. By protecting this game with SF3 you have successfully forced me to buy it."

I agree 100% with SycoShaman.


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DaMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:40    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
i refuse to buy it, outta principle...dont wanna contribute to SF...like someone said earlier, if UBI notices sales of SF protected games are considerbly higher than those of SD,SR etc, most companies are gunna opt to use starforce and they technology is only gunna get more sophisticated...From what ive been reading, supposing one of the main groups got the game monday or tuesday (thats when it went on sale in sweden), they prolly cracked the game and are prolly now playing through it to make sure its complete. I seriously think it should be out anytime now..but then again, maybe its just wishfull thinking. Smile

IE
You can install the game fine, run the game fine. But then, u get to the second last level, and u need a key card to get through some door and because of sf, the key was removed when the protection was removed, thus not allowing you to continue the game...I'd be way more pissed if that happened, than having to wait.

Just hang on boys, im sure its being cracked/finished as we speak (or should i say post?).


I truly hope you're right. I just might wait till next friday, but if it isn't out by then, I will run to the nearest store and buy it.
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bum^




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:45    Post subject:
I buy this game because its the best game of 2005 not because it has starforce 3

if had been cracked by now i would still buy it.

Its like 3 games for the price of 1 (45 euros). You get coop, versus and single player Very Happy

And with the cracked you will only get the single player.

I just sucks when you say you dont buy it because of starforce, its just a lame excuse...


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dead_man007




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:54    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
i refuse to buy it, outta principle...dont wanna contribute to SF...like someone said earlier, if UBI notices sales of SF protected games are considerbly higher than those of SD,SR etc, most companies are gunna opt to use starforce and they technology is only gunna get more sophisticated...From what ive been reading, supposing one of the main groups got the game monday or tuesday (thats when it went on sale in sweden), they prolly cracked the game and are prolly now playing through it to make sure its complete. I seriously think it should be out anytime now..but then again, maybe its just wishfull thinking. Smile

Even if you don't buy it you think companies are still going to use out dated protection methods? Games that use protection like securom, or safedisk tend to be easy to crack if you think about it. Groups crack the game the same day it comes out in stores, so I've always thought if they can crack it so fast, they might as well not use any protection. This is why companies have started to use protection like SF. Whining and bitching about companies that use better protection is pointless because their laughing their ass off at you because they then know their doing something right. All you want is a free game. Look at it from their point of view, their protecting their investment and for that I congratulate them. Quality games like Splinter Cell are a rarity these days and should be supported. Even if you plan to buy it when it hits the bargin bins. That's when I plan on buying it.

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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 09:59    Post subject:
how is it a lame excuse?
Its not an excuse, its my fuckin reason
and I dont care about coop and vs
only the single player mission

I dont need to play the fuckin thing bad enough to buy it, I can live without SC3, really.

and trust, i have the money...but really, how many times can u play sc? sc1 and sc2 are collecting dust for me now

You know what would make shell out money for games? Say with SC3, u play the single player, beat and all that. U know, u fuck around with coop and shit but that gets boring. What ubi should do is find a way so say every month u get like a new story line + levels...obviously, they would have to work with a template and the game would remain the same at its core - but say one month, ur in iraq, next month ur in North Korea, iran etc
that shit would be worth spending money on for sure
Sc3 like all the previous titles have little to no replay value...to bad companies dont focus on that anymore, replay value...games ive bought this/last year, NHL 05, Madden 05, MLb 05, NBa 05 etc
Im not a big sports fanatic, but fuck, if i wanna chill and just play a game, I can pick up any of those titles and play em over and over and over, and never quite have the exact same experience...know what i mean?

Kinda pisses me off that i bought Metal gear 3 come to think of it.....


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DaMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 10:01    Post subject:
dead_man007 wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
i refuse to buy it, outta principle...dont wanna contribute to SF...like someone said earlier, if UBI notices sales of SF protected games are considerbly higher than those of SD,SR etc, most companies are gunna opt to use starforce and they technology is only gunna get more sophisticated...From what ive been reading, supposing one of the main groups got the game monday or tuesday (thats when it went on sale in sweden), they prolly cracked the game and are prolly now playing through it to make sure its complete. I seriously think it should be out anytime now..but then again, maybe its just wishfull thinking. Smile

Even if you don't buy it you think companies are still going to use out dated protection methods? Games that use protection like securom, or safedisk tend to be easy to crack if you think about it. Groups crack the game the same day it comes out in stores, so I've always thought if they can crack it so fast, they might as well not use any protection. This is why companies have started to use protection like SF. Whining and bitching about companies that use better protection is pointless because their laughing their ass off at you because they then know their doing something right. All you want is a free game. Look at it from their point of view, their protecting their investment and for that I congratulate them. Quality games like Splinter Cell are a rarity these days and should be supported. Even if you plan to buy it when it hits the bargin bins. That's when I plan on buying it.

dead_man007


Very true.

I've heard so much good about this game, that I'll propably buy it even if it gets released within the next couple of days.
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 10:04    Post subject:
dead_man007 wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
i refuse to buy it, outta principle...dont wanna contribute to SF...like someone said earlier, if UBI notices sales of SF protected games are considerbly higher than those of SD,SR etc, most companies are gunna opt to use starforce and they technology is only gunna get more sophisticated...From what ive been reading, supposing one of the main groups got the game monday or tuesday (thats when it went on sale in sweden), they prolly cracked the game and are prolly now playing through it to make sure its complete. I seriously think it should be out anytime now..but then again, maybe its just wishfull thinking. Smile

Even if you don't buy it you think companies are still going to use out dated protection methods? Games that use protection like securom, or safedisk tend to be easy to crack if you think about it. Groups crack the game the same day it comes out in stores, so I've always thought if they can crack it so fast, they might as well not use any protection. This is why companies have started to use protection like SF. Whining and bitching about companies that use better protection is pointless because their laughing their ass off at you because they then know their doing something right. All you want is a free game. Look at it from their point of view, their protecting their investment and for that I congratulate them. Quality games like Splinter Cell are a rarity these days and should be supported. Even if you plan to buy it when it hits the bargin bins. That's when I plan on buying it.

dead_man007


I agree, they should be supported and i would do the same thing. What I wouldnt do is charge a fuckin arm and a leg for a game that is only really gunna be played once, maybe twice.
Of course ur gunna get the multiplayer freaks, but most ppl are gunna buy it for the single player aspect which has no replay value.
Price the game at say $24.99 and I would buy it hands down as most can afford to lose 30 bucks. But when a game retails for 69.99 (thats what it is here, Toronto) (some places have it for 59.99) that i cant play the shit out of or that i may not like, i have no reason to make the rich, richer...and game devs arent hurting for money...the big games like sc3...fuck, devs make 100K plus easy (the ones workin on the game as they are prolly more talented than say the Soldner devs lol). When I make 100K a year, I will support them, until then, 69.99 is my cell phone bill....


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highstuff




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 10:09    Post subject:
Damn i could not say it any better youre absolutly right here that 69.99 is for mine internet connection !
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DVQ




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 10:38    Post subject:
you are right in every aspect SycoShaman, but in my case i have no choice, because of my shitty country i have to dl stuff. (high retail prices, no stock).

lets take for example HL2 its a great game with a great marketing personal, the guys behind VALVe manage the HL2 title too good and they managed to sell it here in Mexico like 5 days after official release date in USA.

Why is this shit not happening with Splinter Cell 3? seriously i dont know. but if pisses me of cuz i really want to play it (legit or not).

I hope is rlsd by some grup before monday. i have the money now to order it from a guy at ebay.com so... lets wait 2 more days.

im outtie.


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bum^




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 11:12    Post subject:
ive you can live without it then stop the bitching.....

people here are being bashed for buying/enyoing the game... It sounds like jealousy is a motherfucker again


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Rzooq




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 11:17    Post subject:
There is no thing in whole world that can force to buy SC:TC (at least until about July).
You know why?
Because I don't have DVD drive Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
I have even orginal SC:PT DVD which was bundled with my graphic card, but I still had to download cd version to play it Very Happy Very Happy


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 11:18    Post subject:
bum^ wrote:
ive you can live without it then stop the bitching.....

people here are being bashed for buying/enyoing the game... It sounds like jealousy is a motherfucker again


Im not bitching man, just discussing Smile

But its true, the jealousy thing...lol over a videogame
a woman...maybe Wink

Buying the game is cool, but if u buy it cuz ur impatient, well, i think its a lil dumb cuz when the next big game comes out, ur gunna have to go out and buy that one too as the companies will have devoted more money into workin protections

The whole impatient thing, I did with Punisher..waited 2 days and it still didnt come out, bought it, came home, installed it. Before I went to play I checked nforce and what did i find? Hlm released the punisher...kicked my own ass for that one...theres another game im never going to play again


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bum^




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 11:35    Post subject:
ok Smile


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SManu




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 14:48    Post subject:
i think the new games are too expensive especially considering their duration
and don't want to replay them (best example : Doom 3)
so i'm agreed with SycoShaman
with SC3 10 hours to finish it and only 4 co-op mission Sad
it's for that i love role playing game... i buy Sacred and i play it again and again in co-op or single

however i don't like to download games, terminate them, love them but don't buy them...

i think the better way for me to be in the legality with such game with poor lifespan is to buy games in budget prices or on ebay ("acheter d'occasion" in french)... So i don't give my money to company (or much less) but i have always original games...
sorry for my poor english Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 15:16    Post subject:
Multiplayer looks to be awesome for this. I might buy it just for that aspect.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 17:33    Post subject:
SManu wrote:
i think the new games are too expensive especially considering their duration
and don't want to replay them (best example : Doom 3)
so i'm agreed with SycoShaman
with SC3 10 hours to finish it and only 4 co-op mission Sad
it's for that i love role playing game... i buy Sacred and i play it again and again in co-op or single

however i don't like to download games, terminate them, love them but don't buy them...

i think the better way for me to be in the legality with such game with poor lifespan is to buy games in budget prices or on ebay ("acheter d'occasion" in french)... So i don't give my money to company (or much less) but i have always original games...
sorry for my poor english Rolling Eyes


only 10 hours 2 finish the game ?!?!?!?!

so maybe i wont buy it now


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SManu




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 17:42    Post subject:
yes only 10 hours for solo

if you love versus mode and play for a long time with this mode the game is interesting to buy now... but definitively not for solo campaign or only 4 co-op maps Crying or Very sad
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