Call of Duty: Black Ops
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 13:28    Post subject:
No, it's how terrible the game deals with resources. My guess is Treyarch tried to hack some shit into an engine they didn't have full access to (mind you, this is also IW 3.0 and not 4.0 like in MW2).

For instance, on my i5-760 @ 4.2 GHz + GTX 460 it runs fine at first, stutters a little after a few map changes. At that point, it's using all 4 of my cores for about 75% :E
All I gotta do to fix it is "snd_restart" and voila, CPU usage drops down to nothing noteworthy like it should.

That command doesn't work for everybody, but it does for some, and there's more weird issues like this.
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Maus0r




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 13:33    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
RMFX wrote:
Black ops runs perfectly on my PC. 1680x1050 8XAA. Solid 60FPS with V-sync on.

QX6850, 4GB ram using a GTX295. I have had no issues at all since release.


It seems to have some weird bugs that makes it stutter on the most unexpected computers. We've had people with quite old gfx cards here saying it runs great while people with state of the art cards say it stutters like hell.
Also, it doesnt seem to be the usual "it works great on geforce but sucks on ati" but even here it seem to be very random


I'm one of those, I'm running it on a Palit 9800GT 512, 4Gb DDR3 and an AMD X3 440. Everything maxed, running at 1920x1080 on my sparkly new 23in monitor with no lag or stutter whatsoever. Wierd.
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RaWsHaRk




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 16:40    Post subject: Black Ops
I didnt want to install this game after reading how many problems ppl had, but I got tired of waiting Treyarch to patch it properly and installed it anyway..sp ran fine without any stutter, played it through at 1600x900 with E8400, 4 gigs and a 8800 GTX on win XP sp3 32-bit.

liked the game, didnt run as nice as MW2 but atmosphere was much more to my liking.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 20:38    Post subject:
Retail US sales: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31995/Exclusive_Black_Ops_For_Xbox_360_Sells_Nearly_5_Million_In_US.php

Combined PC + Wii + DS: 0.4M units
Xbox 360: 4.9M units
PS3: 3.1M units

Even if we had the data from digital sales (Steam), it doesn't look like the PC version even reached the 0.5M mark in the US (or maybe it did, barely).


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Raap




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 20:44    Post subject:
What makes you say that? I'd have thought that these days almost the majority of PC sales for this type of game would be from digital sales. I don't know anyone who bought it boxed, but plenty who bought it from Steam or using a cd key.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 20:44    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Retail US sales: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31995/Exclusive_Black_Ops_For_Xbox_360_Sells_Nearly_5_Million_In_US.php

Combined PC + Wii + DS: 0.4M units
Xbox 360: 4.9M units
PS3: 3.1M units

Even if we had the data from digital sales (Steam), it doesn't look like the PC version even reached the 0.5M mark in the US (or maybe it did, barely).


Just proves that the americans are idiots.
However, I cant really understand where you get the idea that even if we had the steam numbers it wouldnt pass 0.5m


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garus
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 20:48    Post subject:
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 20:50    Post subject:
garus wrote:
No wonder they shit all over PC players.


Well - thats the US market. I've read the pc is selling better in Europe.


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:01    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Retail US sales: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31995/Exclusive_Black_Ops_For_Xbox_360_Sells_Nearly_5_Million_In_US.php

Combined PC + Wii + DS: 0.4M units
Xbox 360: 4.9M units
PS3: 3.1M units

Even if we had the data from digital sales (Steam), it doesn't look like the PC version even reached the 0.5M mark in the US (or maybe it did, barely).


Just proves that the americans are idiots.
However, I cant really understand where you get the idea that even if we had the steam numbers it wouldnt pass 0.5m


Well, we know that PC + Wii + DS sold 0.4M.

I'm making a guess here and say that around half of those units are PC. So we have 0.2M units from retail. I believe it's a good guess, maybe at the most it sold 0.25M but I don't believe it could be higher, because I think it doesn't make sense that the Wii + DS didn't even sell 0.15M!!

And let's say that maybe 60% of PC sales were from Steam. So that 0.2M is the 40% of the total sales.

If I did the math correctly then the total retail + digital sales are 0.5M

I believe my 60% guess isn't far from the truth. I haven't found any reports or estimates that digital sales of PC games are like.. 80% of total PC sales. Not in the US at least. The latest relevant report from NDP actually concluded that PC digital sales are around 60%: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40953/Digital-passes-boxed-in-PC-games-market just as I guessed.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:06    Post subject:
So basically your guessing Smile

Edit: Your calculation is based on asumptions and guessings. Look, im not saying that your wrong - however, I don't think people really want to know non-confirmed statistics. Atleast I know that I don't really care much what people belive.


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:17    Post subject:
Oh absolutely, I thought it was clear this was my guess.
The only fact is it sold less than 0.4M units in US retail (it could be as low as 0.1M or as high as 0.3M) while consoles versions sold 8M units.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:23    Post subject:
PC game sales are indeed larger in Europe more often than not. We hardly get any stats regarding those however. But you get to hear stuff like "it did pretty well in Europe" relatively often.

In any case, haven't played Black Ops for a few days now. Is anyone still playing? Checked the server couple of times when I had the time - empty. Smile
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:25    Post subject:
Well - no offence...as long as you don't have any actual numbers (apart from the retail ones) the rest is really not relevant Smile

I wonder how many retails it sold world wide on Pc (or digital ones - however, those numbers are always impossible to get hold of)


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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:49    Post subject:
The US has a much bigger derpbase than Europe. I know absolutely noone who would actually even want to play something like Black Ops on their derpbox, if they even own one

And I think you really underestimate how much copies have been sold on Steam Very Happy
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2010 21:52    Post subject:
He's right, in the retail chain stores here. EBGames, Gamestop, the derpness is at fulltime.

Last time I went in their, I asked if any good RPGs were released on a console latley, and I told him I'm a PC gamer, and I only have a ps3.

He then stated. "Whats an RPG?", and, "You can play games on the PC? How do you play them without a controller?!"

And yes, he WAS serious.
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HunterHare




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 02:11    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Just proves that the americans are idiots.


pwerelds wrote:
The US has a much bigger derpbase than Europe.



yah we might be derpy idiots, but we'll kick your fucking asses.
AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!


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Wahad




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 03:10    Post subject:
lol


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Shakabutt




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 07:38    Post subject:
Guys,i want to buy a russian key from Onlinekeystore,can i convert it to english ?

Thank you
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 11:28    Post subject:
Shakabutt wrote:
Guys,i want to buy a russian key from Onlinekeystore,can i convert it to english ?

Thank you


Be careful, it might be region locked... Sad


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cultor




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 11:45    Post subject:
okay, I've been playing this game for 2 days now, GOD, glad I didn't buy it, was planning to...
anyway, the main menu alone is shit!! Cmon, everytime I want to move my mouse to select the right menu, but you have to use the arrows, cause mouse looks around...
And to continue a game I have to first select game, exit that menu again, enter it again, and then I get the continue option...
Loading is shit, everythime the ADD flashing scenes, after that, or when I die I have a 5 sec black screen, anoying...

Game itself is more of the same COD, No stuttering for me though, luckely
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 12:52    Post subject:
cultor wrote:
okay, I've been playing this game for 2 days now, GOD, glad I didn't buy it, was planning to...
anyway, the main menu alone is shit!! Cmon, everytime I want to move my mouse to select the right menu, but you have to use the arrows, cause mouse looks around...
And to continue a game I have to first select game, exit that menu again, enter it again, and then I get the continue option...
Loading is shit, everythime the ADD flashing scenes, after that, or when I die I have a 5 sec black screen, anoying...

Game itself is more of the same COD, No stuttering for me though, luckely


I don't have any of those issues with a bought copy.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 13:24    Post subject:
HunterHare wrote:
Ankh wrote:
Just proves that the americans are idiots.


pwerelds wrote:
The US has a much bigger derpbase than Europe.



yah we might be derpy idiots, but we'll kick your fucking asses.
AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 14:10    Post subject:
HunterHare wrote:
Ankh wrote:
Just proves that the americans are idiots.


pwerelds wrote:
The US has a much bigger derpbase than Europe.



yah we might be derpy idiots, but we'll kick your fucking asses.
AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!



When?
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 16:56    Post subject:
So who's up for some pewpew tonight? Poor garus and me were all alone yesterday Sad
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 16:57    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
So who's up for some pewpew tonight? Poor garus and me were all alone yesterday Sad


Count me in. If the game starts tonight that is Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 17:35    Post subject:
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 17:41    Post subject:
I'll try to join in. Unless I miss it... then I won't join Smile
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 17:42    Post subject:
I bought mine from D2D { with huge discount Laughing} so a lot of sales come from that shop as well....

I think most of PC sales are from Digital Stores those days.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 19:34    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Well - no offence...as long as you don't have any actual numbers (apart from the retail ones) the rest is really not relevant Smile

I wonder how many retails it sold world wide on Pc (or digital ones - however, those numbers are always impossible to get hold of)
I found this link searching around: http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/44950/call-of-duty-black-ops/
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2010 19:54    Post subject:
PaLL3 wrote:
I found this link searching around: http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/44950/call-of-duty-black-ops/
Don't even bother thinking about that, vgchartz sales are total BS.


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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