| Page 14 of 69 |
xDBS
Posts: 1937
Location: USA / Japan
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
xDBS
Posts: 1937
Location: USA / Japan
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 14:45 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ixigia
[Moderator] Consigliere
Posts: 65343
Location: Italy
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 14:46 Post subject: |
|
|
He's clearly trolling 
PLus, it's a UE3-powered game, so
bSmoothFrameRate=FALSE
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
xDBS
Posts: 1937
Location: USA / Japan
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 14:46 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Werelds
Special Little Man
Posts: 15098
Location: 0100111001001100
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BKarza
Posts: 536
Location: /lazurus mode 1
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 14:51 Post subject: |
|
|
Not the eye thing!! NNOOOOOOOOOOOO /Darth Vader mode
| Nui wrote: | | Because digital shipping takes time. Think of all the digital boats and their digital captains. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Frant
King's Bounty
Posts: 24939
Location: Your Mom
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:00 Post subject: |
|
|
Trolling or not, the statement "The human eye can't even realistically notice 60FPS" isn't valid since the eye doesn't work like that.
The closest approximation would be to have a screen switch between black and white slowly and then increasing the frequency of the switching. When you don't notice any switching and the screen seems to be smooth bright grey, that's the frequency where the eye has reached it's limit to separate black from white. This is generally around 100hz on average. But there are many other things to consider that makes this topic more complex than that. Blur and aliasing on televisions will make the need for very high frequencies unnecessary.
http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:28 Post subject: |
|
|
Everything above 30fps the human eyes can't see, everything below that it can. The site above is not on point at all. So for the human eyes to be relaxed and not being able to see stuttering/non smooth imaging a game should be run at least on 30FPS so everything stays fluid. And it's around 60HZ average and not 100 HZ. Think about LCD game displays that do only 60HZ (first models) that have up to 400HZ now that is trickery -> putting frames in between for a so called smoother experience on screen.
so it's 30FPS and 60HZ that a human can't see / notice the difference anymore everything above that is not needed.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Neon
VIP Member
Posts: 18939
Location: Poland
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:30 Post subject: |
|
|
If you can't tell a difference between 30 and 60 or more FPS, you have some serious problems with your eyes.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:31 Post subject: |
|
|
From what I remember from school, the eye has different cells for black/white and color vision which operate differently. You also have a different perception of movement in the center of your vision and on the edges.
Also resolution of the video/game has an effect on the perceived fluidity. The higher the resolution the easier it is to see the "jerkiness" of the video.
Bottom line: you can't specify the perfect framerate for the human eye, more is always better.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:31 Post subject: |
|
|
| Neon wrote: | | If you can't tell a difference between 30 and 60 or more FPS, you have some serious problems with your eyes. |
This. I laugh my pale fucking arse off everytime someone states "the eye can't differentiate between 30 and 60" and instantly counter with;
Go see a fucking optician.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:35 Post subject: |
|
|
what i think is weird is when i play these supposedly 30 fps console games i find it going 10 times smoother than if i have 30fps in a PC game.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LeoNatan
☢ NFOHump Despot ☢
Posts: 75293
Location: Israel
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:38 Post subject: |
|
|
| kenny64 wrote: | | what i think is weird is when i play these supposedly 30 fps console games i find it going 10 times smoother than if i have 30fps in a PC game. |
That's because the console have amazingly awesome BlurSmooth™ technology to make everything appear as smooth as 240 fps.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JBeckman
VIP Member
Posts: 35736
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:41 Post subject: |
|
|
http://kotaku.com/#!5764824/bulletstorms-pc-demos-on-the-way-+-after-it-releases
Demo, or rather a confirmation that one will be released after the game itself is out.
EDIT: In terms of FPS and not Hz or anything most people can notice differences upwards of around to 200 - 250 FPS as far as I've read, 30 - 60 isn't a issue at all to distinguish between unless motion blur and other tricks for smoothing out the image is used.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 15:46 Post subject: |
|
|
| RizL4UK wrote: | | KillerCrocker wrote: | I am about half way in 360 version. Game is great! Its fucking ridiculous, Its a non stop rollercoaster of epic shit happening around. Just a old school no brainer fun.
360 version have fucked up fov and I can't concentrate my eyes on the screen. Also jaggies and 30fps are more noticable than other 360games.
PC version will be much superior. |
30fps which is not i have played the 360 and its smooth 60fps |
Blind Slow-eye motion fool You are kind sir.
Its 30fps(solid 30) butter texture experience full of jaggies.
But graphics are still awesome. Vistas are mindblowing as for UE3 game
5080 | ps5 pro
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 16:24 Post subject: |
|
|
| Werelds wrote: | | RizL4UK wrote: | | The human eye can't even realistically notice 60FPS |
Wrong. Often used as an argument, and it's completely wrong - and there's plenty of science to back me up here.
If you're going to troll, at least do it properly  |
m...many people into trolling lately and looks like many don't do it well...
maybe it will be good thing to open trolling school around here |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 17:44 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 17:44 Post subject: |
|
|
| kenny64 wrote: | | what i think is weird is when i play these supposedly 30 fps console games i find it going 10 times smoother than if i have 30fps in a PC game. |
True. I noticed that few years ago.
5080 | ps5 pro
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 17:50 Post subject: |
|
|
Bulletstorm, y u no release?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mbi2009
Posts: 142
Location: Russia
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 17:56 Post subject: |
|
|
Yep - BULLETSTORM.mdx (6.93 GB)
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Pey
Posts: 5625
Location: Argentina
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 18:08 Post subject: |
|
|
Тип издания: лицензия
Язык интерфейса: Русский, английский, французский, итальянский, испанский, польский, датский Язык озвучки: Английский, Французский, Немецкий, Итальянский, Испанский
Таблэтка: Отсутствует (проверка даты релиза)
Seasonic 1000w Planitum - TT Level 10 GT - ASUS M5E - i7 2600k @ 5.0ghz - 16GB Patriot Viper 3 - Dell u3011 - EVGA GTX 980 @ SLI - SSD Samsung EVO 250GB - 16TB W.D. - G19/G13 @ Roccat Kone XTD - Razer Vespula - Xonar Phoebus @ Vulcan ANC/Corsair 2100 Vengeance - Logitech G51
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 18:11 Post subject: |
|
|
| KillerSneak wrote: | Everything above 30fps the human eyes can't see, everything below that it can. The site above is not on point at all. So for the human eyes to be relaxed and not being able to see stuttering/non smooth imaging a game should be run at least on 30FPS so everything stays fluid. And it's around 60HZ average and not 100 HZ. Think about LCD game displays that do only 60HZ (first models) that have up to 400HZ now that is trickery -> putting frames in between for a so called smoother experience on screen.
so it's 30FPS and 60HZ that a human can't see / notice the difference anymore everything above that is not needed. |
It may not be absolutely necessary to get 30+ fps for a game to be "playable," but the human eye absolutely, positively, 100%, without a doubt CAN notice beyond that.
"Needed" fps is also subjective. If you spent your whole life playing games at 15 fps, you would have gotten used to it by now. However, if your friend who has played games at 60 fps his whole life comes over to your house, he'll kick you in the throat for having such a shitty pc. And you'll probably offer him oral pleasure when you go over to his house and realize what you've been missing.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 18:14 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 18:20 Post subject: |
|
|
Bulletstorm (Electronic Arts) (Multi7/RUS) [L] от R.G. - Кинозал.ТВ
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
prudislav
VIP Member
Posts: 29147
Location: The land of beer and porn
|
| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 18:22 Post subject: |
|
|
Multi7 is eng,ger,spa,fra,rus,pol and hun ?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
| Page 14 of 69 |
All times are GMT + 1 Hour |
. They patched it of course, just messing around.
but who cares The human eye can't even realistically notice 60FPS
