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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 16:40 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 16:55 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Origins != Dragon Age 2.
They're not the same mate, not at all. If you like cRPGs of old like NWN/Baldur's Gate/etc then you'll love Origins. If you prefer Snowblind-enging hack'n'slash titles on the Xbox/PS2, you'll love DA2. |
and i would say "If you liked cRPGs of old like NWN/Baldur's Gate/etc then you'll" hate Origins
why?
1.its story progression was horrid
a)it starts with a intro telling you the whole story line WTF??!!  [RPGs should be mysterious with its story line not tell you the whole thing right in the intro],
b)then you are transported to someone that totally doesn't want to be in this game but by horrible events he/she becomes a specter ehm a gray warden [oh gee see the similarity anyone],
c)then you get the horrible plot decisions ,play as :
*male [die OR someone dies for you OR you sleep with morrigan and not die but she gets a baby with a daemons soul...wait wait wait you are telling me i have to play as a guy to get the better/Good ending ]
*female [die or someone dies for you]
2.character presentation [uhm fetch quests for companions more like it]was weak and shallow [covered with blood and tits] with DLCs just to present the story line of your companions [wait? wasn't that suppose to be in the game right from the start ] ,
3.it had nothing to pull you in [shift and delete ...next i would say]
imo Bioware with KOTOR made a template for console RPGs and from that day every game from theirs studio follows the same scheme , now like they said their template evolved into this dumb-down thing, a Action Game with Story line decisions ... the "Gears of war" take go left or right... Bioware in every friking interview thinks that decisions of "Left right" are RPG elements so yeah... ME2 was a covershooter but WON THE BEST RPG AWARD and DA2 well its a action game with dlc shitting out of theirs ass
games aren't like they where in the old days when every other game iteration made the series evolve , but now the developers just go the other way, make a game that creates a fan base then create the next part with less effort put into with cut things sold later as DLC... just like Mafia 2 , Splinter Cell 6 , Final Fantasy XIII etc..
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 16:58 Post subject: |
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Couldnt finish the demo, didnt feel like Dragon Age at all. They should have made it a new franchise and let Dragon Age die with fond memories.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 17:00 Post subject: |
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Hfric FTW !
>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ♪ Viva La Vida ♪ <<<<<< <<<<< <<<<<< <<<
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:00 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | Origins != Dragon Age 2.
They're not the same mate, not at all. If you like cRPGs of old like NWN/Baldur's Gate/etc then you'll love Origins. If you prefer Snowblind-enging hack'n'slash titles on the Xbox/PS2, you'll love DA2. |
and i would say "If you liked cRPGs of old like NWN/Baldur's Gate/etc then you'll" hate Origins
why?
1.its story progression was horrid
a)it starts with a intro telling you the whole story line WTF??!! [RPGs should be mysterious with its story line not tell you the whole thing right in the intro],
b)then you are transported to someone that totally doesn't want to be in this game but by horrible events he/she becomes a specter ehm a gray warden [oh gee see the similarity anyone],
c)then you get the horrible plot decisions ,play as :
*male [die OR someone dies for you OR you sleep with morrigan and not die but she gets a baby with a daemons soul...wait wait wait you are telling me i have to play as a guy to get the better/Good ending ]
*female [die or someone dies for you]
2.character presentation [uhm fetch quests for companions more like it]was weak and shallow [covered with blood and tits] with DLCs just to present the story line of your companions [wait? wasn't that suppose to be in the game right from the start ] ,
3.it had nothing to pull you in [shift and delete ...next i would say]
imo Bioware with KOTOR made a template for console RPGs and from that day every game from theirs studio follows the same scheme , now like they said their template evolved into this dumb-down thing, a Action Game with Story line decisions ... the "Gears of war" take go left or right... Bioware in every friking interview thinks that decisions of "Left right" are RPG elements so yeah... ME2 was a covershooter but WON THE BEST RPG AWARD and DA2 well its a action game with dlc shitting out of theirs ass
games aren't like they where in the old days when every other game iteration made the series evolve , but now the developers just go the other way, make a game that creates a fan base then create the next part with less effort put into with cut things sold later as DLC... just like Mafia 2 , Splinter Cell 6 , Final Fantasy XIII etc.. |
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There's a special forum for talk who like other things than this game 
So far this game is just awesome. Animations are great, and I don't care what others say. You wanna play hardcore pro RPG w/e you call it play old crappy games. For the others it's a MUST if you like rpgs.
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dsergei
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:06 Post subject: |
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Hfric, you should hate the story of PS:T so much then. You can only what Kill yourself/or Go fight forever in the Blood War to atone for your sins. Where is good/better ending?
I agree with most of your points though. DA:O had only several things i really liked. Some characters were really nicely written (Sten) and many lore concepts that defied fantasy stereotypes (elves being used as slaves, mages considered dangerous and unstable). But that's about it. The story itself seemed completely predictable and uninspired as were most of the characters (Morrigan especially comes off as having totaly unrealistic personality with no motivation to act as she does). The mmoish combat mechanics (threat management, aggro, etc) didn't appeal to me at all - and if they insist on moving towards direct control sceems (as is evident in DA2) - i'd rather have something similar to Demons Souls.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:37 Post subject: |
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@dsergei
i loved PlaneScape Torment for its story presentation [well it was more like one of those Japanese Text novel games made on the BG engine that had sometimes 3h long reading marathons for each person you meet], you don't who you are and when you wake up... your dead and right next to you is Morte a flying scull... and the ending was perfect it depended on what you THOUGH you became immortal [when you spoke to BaBa Yaga] and the whole journey you took to see her was one long memory lane trip to juggle your brain to understand who you are...to understand what can change the nature of a man
@Leo
it was my IMO like you had in your signature about why i didn't like this game
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:40 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | @Leo
it was my IMO like you had in your signature about why i didn't like this game |
Your sarcasm detector is broken.  |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:49 Post subject: |
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:57 Post subject: |
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so, i.. like... need some kind of picture summary attached to this thing. what am i looking at, why, and whats special about ti? |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:59 Post subject: |
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@chiv: aside from the prehistoric graphics, there's something slightly wrong with their heads
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 18:59 Post subject: |
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You see the white dots up in the sky? There's your answer.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:03 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | |
| sabin1981 wrote: | | The combat, the maps, the inventory, the story, everything |
Judging by that screenshot you might add the graphics, too.
I didn't remember DA1 ever looking that bad (although I used a couple of texture packs).
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:11 Post subject: |
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It took me a while to see it, but now it's hilarious
BEST GAMES YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED (click)
Richard Benson: " Durante tutta la mia esistenza, ho avuto sempre un sogno...
(Throughout my whole existence, I've always had a dream...)
Loving fan: "un cazzo 'n culo!"
(A cock deep inside your ass!)
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:18 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:28 Post subject: |
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 and also
Way to go BioWare! And people wonder why we bitch, whine and give "Bio"names (well... Sabin is, mostly).  |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:29 Post subject: |
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But if your character is bald shouldn't your brother be too?
It's supposed to run in the family.
"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.
Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:35 Post subject: |
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Sry mate, but each time I read your posts, a big huge "BioWhore" stands out everytime.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:36 Post subject: |
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Well tis true! They are whores... whores to EA. Whores to the derps. Whores to teh monies.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:38 Post subject: |
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eh yeah ok. whole pic looked pretty dark to me, and the pic is pretty small so it was hard to see any detail on it, so i thought the heads were just shadowed, but yeah ok. heh. funneh
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:51 Post subject: |
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I say, this gives a new meaning to interracial.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 19:55 Post subject: |
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or for that matter, "banged up abroad"
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 20:21 Post subject: |
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You want a great RPG? Wait for Skyrim pals, you can duel everyone on the streets, holly shit
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Mar 2011 20:25 Post subject: |
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| nahu_capo wrote: | | You want a great RPG? Wait for Skyrim pals, you can duel everyone on the streets, holly shit |
we will see on release, i could name a few RPGs that looked awesome untill we played them, for now Skyrim looks good nothing more, should i name another rpg that looked good too but it was dumbed down and had a shity gameplay?
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