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rejer13




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 13:25    Post subject:
So they finely beat the crackers.


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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 13:26    Post subject:
rejer13 wrote:
So they finely beat the crackers.

Confused
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 14:11    Post subject:
Is the Hattori clan playable in FLT release?


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Fugen




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 16:18    Post subject:
One question - in FLT folder on DVD2 there are "update_common" and "update_en"

Are they basically update 1 and 2 ?


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helvete




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 16:20    Post subject:
bah


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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 16:22    Post subject:
Fakir wrote:
One question - in FLT folder on DVD2 there are "update_common" and "update_en"

Are they basically update 1 and 2 ?

probably, there was never working update 2 tho, and game version is higher than chinamans
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BloodySpy




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 16:30    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
Is the Hattori clan playable in FLT release?


No. Why, are they playable in the legit version ?
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 17:11    Post subject:
BloodySpy wrote:
prudislav wrote:
Is the Hattori clan playable in FLT release?


No. Why, are they playable in the legit version ?

they were preorder bonus
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5h4d3




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 17:12    Post subject:
You're both wrong. You can play Hattori if you buy the Limited Edition.
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pfeiffchen




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 17:43    Post subject:
is this one very good? or just normal stuff?
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5h4d3




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 17:47    Post subject:
If you're asking this you probably don't need to play it.
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 17:48    Post subject:
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kumkss




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 18:55    Post subject:
gonna have to buy dvd9's back to home!! they are getting strangely uncommon nowadays!! Razz
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Vulgarr




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 21:12    Post subject:
I got it for free for ordering an i5 2500k processor off of Newegg. Going to install it tonight. I played the demo and was glad to get the full game for free. Seems really cool and anything with Steam Cloud is aces in my book. I wish every game had the equivalent of Steam Cloud. After having my hard drive completely die recently, I can appreciate having my save games and such stored in a could environment.
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5h4d3




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 21:33    Post subject:
Your save games are not saved in the cloud.
If your HDD dies again in the middle of a Campagin game well, that progress is gone.
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S.S.S




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 21:34    Post subject:
They really need to make one of those game in modern time. And please not WW II although i see this coming soon from a mile away.

Iy would be a blast to control modern weaponry and infantry , call for airstrikes , develop new technologies , use WMDs , having to deal with the UN ect Razz


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jonas9000




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 21:34    Post subject:
I can just run this game with medium quality ? Other options are faded ! Any one ?


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BloodySpy




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 21:58    Post subject:
5h4d3 wrote:
You're both wrong. You can play Hattori if you buy the Limited Edition.


He was asking about the FLT version. You cannot play Hattori with it...yet.
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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 21:59    Post subject:
S.S.S wrote:
They really need to make one of those game in modern time. And please not WW II although i see this coming soon from a mile away.

Iy would be a blast to control modern weaponry and infantry , call for airstrikes , develop new technologies , use WMDs , having to deal with the UN ect Razz


I know many people would disagree but I would love to see medieval 3 now. The gameplay/interface changes they have made since Napoleon have made the whole series more enjoyable, and playing Medieval 2 is a chore now. It is the most varied and interesting time period, the problem with Shogun and Napoleon are that all of the units feel the same and my desire to fight the individual battles is pretty low as a result.

I would get so excited to play battles as Scotland, rushing into the English infantry squads with those claymore swords and countering their Heavy cav with pikes... shit was intense. I don't get that from Shogun units, and Napolean/Empire fights were just boring.
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zmed




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 23:46    Post subject:
S.S.S wrote:
They really need to make one of those game in modern time. And please not WW II although i see this coming soon from a mile away.

Iy would be a blast to control modern weaponry and infantry , call for airstrikes , develop new technologies , use WMDs , having to deal with the UN ect Razz
The problem with TW going modern is that the transition would pretty much kill the essence of the series, namely the huge-ass armies clashing and the chaos of...well...Total War.

The era of line infantry is pretty much the last time that still fits into the general idea of the series. After that, warfare moved to smaller groups of soldiers not moving in tightly packed lines, instead they are organized into small squads that act in concert with other units.

There are tonns of games out there that made a good job of representing today's military operations (World in Conflict comes to mind). But there are very few that can say the same for the good old hacky-slashy human-wave type warfare. And the TW series is the best there is.

I say: stay the hell away from modern warfare. There are still areas unexplored (Egypt, completely crusades-based games, etc).

What I can see as a next step in the evolution of the series is a all-incluseive package. Start out in the Roman era, move up to Medieval, all the way up to Napoleon.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2011 23:53    Post subject:
yeah total war wouldn't work in modern warfare.
I guess rome 2 is likely next unless they decide to go for something new like Three Kingdoms: Total War or something Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 00:24    Post subject:
gothic4 wrote:
This game is complete crap IMO, CA should really learn a thing or two from the Dynasty Warriors developers on how to make an enjoyable total war game.

for the first 30 turns you're using nothing but 3-4 unit types plus your general, not only that, but there is no balance in the game. Archers are horrible and cost the same as pikemen while being far more useless in the battle field, an army of 10 pikemen will beat an army of 10 archers or a mixed-arms army of archers and pikemen any time. so you're reduced to just using your general + samurai+pikeman.

The AI, as is always the case in a CA game, is absent and completely hopeless. Oh well, back to Samurai Warriors. I guess this is why I always give up hope on PC gaming, balance, game play and enjoyment always give way to pointless complexity


Archers are lethal, just learn how to upgrade and use them right.
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xyzg




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 00:59    Post subject:
someone compared Total War to Dynasty Warriors?. Talk about mixing up the genres.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 01:02    Post subject:
next would be Rome 2 : Total War, if logic prevails and damn i hope it does. Rome was by far the most fun imho.
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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 01:14    Post subject:
Rasclaat wrote:
gothic4 wrote:
This game is complete crap IMO, CA should really learn a thing or two from the Dynasty Warriors developers on how to make an enjoyable total war game.

for the first 30 turns you're using nothing but 3-4 unit types plus your general, not only that, but there is no balance in the game. Archers are horrible and cost the same as pikemen while being far more useless in the battle field, an army of 10 pikemen will beat an army of 10 archers or a mixed-arms army of archers and pikemen any time. so you're reduced to just using your general + samurai+pikeman.

The AI, as is always the case in a CA game, is absent and completely hopeless. Oh well, back to Samurai Warriors. I guess this is why I always give up hope on PC gaming, balance, game play and enjoyment always give way to pointless complexity


Archers are lethal, just learn how to upgrade and use them right.
Rolling Eyes


Not only are they lethal, but the AI knows how to target pretty good with them. I left my general behind the front lines but close enough to inspire my units, and the AI archers all targeted and killed him in a matter of seconds because he was a sitting duck. It pissed me off but also impressed me.
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B1kudo




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 01:20    Post subject:
For me the next would be fall of Rome/ early medieval - the pitch black hages, or the renassaince / exploration era
Dont think we will see anything more modern than Napoleon.
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zmed




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 02:08    Post subject:
Anyone managed to capture the black ship? It showed up just out of my shores, sent a full fleet of med bunes against it and none survived. Razz
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satoru




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 02:44    Post subject:
D4rkKnight wrote:
Rasclaat wrote:
gothic4 wrote:
This game is complete crap IMO, CA should really learn a thing or two from the Dynasty Warriors developers on how to make an enjoyable total war game.

for the first 30 turns you're using nothing but 3-4 unit types plus your general, not only that, but there is no balance in the game. Archers are horrible and cost the same as pikemen while being far more useless in the battle field, an army of 10 pikemen will beat an army of 10 archers or a mixed-arms army of archers and pikemen any time. so you're reduced to just using your general + samurai+pikeman.

The AI, as is always the case in a CA game, is absent and completely hopeless. Oh well, back to Samurai Warriors. I guess this is why I always give up hope on PC gaming, balance, game play and enjoyment always give way to pointless complexity


Archers are lethal, just learn how to upgrade and use them right.
Rolling Eyes


Not only are they lethal, but the AI knows how to target pretty good with them. I left my general behind the front lines but close enough to inspire my units, and the AI archers all targeted and killed him in a matter of seconds because he was a sitting duck. It pissed me off but also impressed me.


I am going to give the troll the benefit of the doubt and that he did NOT mean Dynasty Warriors in the arcade hack and slash versions most people know about. But rather was referring to the strategic Romancing the 3 Kingdoms games instead of which the Dynasty Warrior games take place in the same 'era' for lack of a better term. Though those games were more similar to overhead strategic turn based war games, rather than a real time tactical strategy game. So it's not clear what CA can 'learn' from these games, other than making the strategy map more engaging perhaps. The overall army and kingdom management required in those older games is quite difficult, though I do think CA does a good job of balancing the two 'game types' in Shogun 2.
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DCB




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 03:25    Post subject:
Was it this thread where someone was talking about using mangonels produced in a province with a Hunting Ground and other bonuses in non-siege armies? Paired with lots of bowmen they work pretty nicely against largely Ashigaru armies.
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satoru




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 03:49    Post subject:
On a side note, do you think there would be any non-Steam rip version available? Mostly because I have a lot of games on Steam legitimately, so I'm always very wary of going with these Steam rips on the remote chance it would impact my legitimate account.
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