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SycoShaman
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| Sublime wrote: | | xAiTheHitman wrote: | | calitry wrote: | Holy... 8 hours a day  ohh man u spend as mach time trainign as i do in school.
But im training for soccer... I was called to the u-19 national team[Estonia  ] |
Yep, I live for this shit. The only way to beat me in boxing is to kill me. Theres this little thing about heart. You can outbox your opponent in the ring. You can outpoint your opponent in the ring. But you cant outpunch someone with a shitload of heart.
In other words. You can outbox a slugger. You can outpoint him with points on the score card. But a slugger with heart like god you cant outpunch. You'd have to kill them right in the ring.
Thats exactly how it starts. When you muster up enough energy for the training and the thought of losing never enters your mind, you really cant lose. |
don't be stupid, every week you see some1 with "heart" not give up but ends up with black eyes and ends up losing. just because he has heart and wants to carry on doesn't mean he deserves to win nor is it in his best interest. i bet you're a shit boxer really you think like some1 with no experience at all. you might be able last 10 rounds but it doesn't mean anything compared to ones who have been trained properly. like i said 8 hours is too much and you're just putting too much strain on your body. Sounds like you have no decipline at all either. just to shut u up on the heart thing because i know u'll come back to it... watch the contender those people have heart and some want it more than others but they lose. it's the better fighter now always the 1 who wants it the most. |
im not disputing hitmans heart...cuz i dunno
but i do know, that 8 hours of training a day, if done correctly, doesnt strain your body....and trust me, i have plenty of experience when it comes to intense training for combat  |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 08:12 Post subject: |
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Sublime, go fuck yourself. Heart with the right training makes you unstoppable. Thats exactly what I was writing.
Dont talk to me about boxing... something you know nothing about.
Just because you dont live where I live, doesnt give you the right to talk shit. Your nothing but a euro trash faggot who lives in England with teams like Pompey who couldnt cut it.
In fact, if you were to fight me in real life, I wouldnt knock you out, I'd torture you. Thats not an assumption. Thats a fact. How would I do it? I'd switch to a southpaw stance as a joke (a style I dont even use to face a english prick) , for the first 2 rounds work your body, and parry all your shots, than bam hit your arms everytime you go for a amateur punch. Your arm will be broken within a few hits, than I'd dislocate your jaw... either you'd die from too many hits to the head which causes the cerebrum to be damaged, or you'd be knocked the fuck out for hours.
Thats exactly how it would go. So go flex those internet muscles of yours somewhere else. And dont get into convos with me and Syco in which shit you know nothing about. Go page a mod you sorry fuckin wanker. I'm really getting sick of ur fuckin input.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 08:24 Post subject: |
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Oh, and hey asshole. There are people with heart that never lost.
Http://www.Rockymarciano.com
49-0
He was also the best conditioned heavyweight ever.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 10:00 Post subject: |
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yeah, he was sick
LMAO
u know whats makin me crack up dudes?
the fact that a thread about working out turned into a flame thread lmao
like im seriously laughing out loud and that doesnt usually happen lol lol
I mean i can understand politics, religion, even videogames...but working out and fighting turning into a flame war is just fuckin funny
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 10:04 Post subject: |
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i play soccer. I dont train for it. Only play the match on sunday. So i got a very good condition.
Once i'm playing i never get out of breath or get tired. Only problem is that i get very tired the day after
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 10:55 Post subject: |
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Yea, not to mention Rocky didnt dodge the draft like Ali. He served in the army than came back home to fight.
Sorry about the flaming Skidrow. I just snapped when Sublime started shit.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 11:12 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | yeah, he was sick
LMAO
u know whats makin me crack up dudes?
the fact that a thread about working out turned into a flame thread lmao
like im seriously laughing out loud and that doesnt usually happen lol lol
I mean i can understand politics, religion, even videogames...but working out and fighting turning into a flame war is just fuckin funny |
Oh trust me, Sublime wouldnt be doing this in a real gym. He'd probably get arrested for inciting a riot and get harrassment charges pushed on him.
The reason why I made this thread was to see how many people here were training for different sports. Also, I was curious about their training regimens. I also came to ask a few questions about certain diet plans.
Another thing is yes, the fighters in todays generation for boxing are bigger than the eras of say Marciano, Braddock, or even Ali. The reason that is today sports science played a big role in that. We know more about what the body can take and what to fuel it. But hey, if the fighters from that era where born today I think they'd be bigger due to todays science and training regimens.
Back than they used to have fighters run miles. Today they do it in intervals and rounds. The reason for that is to just be conditioned running for the rounds. I imagine if you just ran without intervals you'd be overtraining. Me, I'm all for overtraining. I'm not sure what you do Syco or Skid. I been using the intervals and round workouts for running. That definately works better for phsyical heavy bag stuff. But I'm still out in the open about the running part. I think that the more you run (not just run for the duration of a round and stop for a rest), the more of an advantage you got for pacing the ring, and more stamina. I dont play soccer, but I'm sure soccer players run alot. I'm confused about the running. I know the heavybag training is whats making you hit with more power and more speed.
I'm wondering if Syco can answer if icecream is considered junk food? Some people tell me to eat that to gain even more weight, and some tell me to stay away from it.
The running part I was talking about above is a open debate if running without intervals makes your stamina go up (thus running for more than the minutes of a round). Whats better and whats not? Also running for 3 hours is good. Always bring drinks with you to if you run.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 12:03 Post subject: |
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You're an amature with heart. if you read all of ehat i said u'll have no chance against pros. you may wasnt it more but they'll have the discipline to take you down quite easily. Rocky M was good yes but he was also trained professionally. And yes 8 hours a day WOULD put a strain on your body if you did it everyday FACT. no matter how superfit you are it's just not possible. that's training 1/3 of every year. It would just drain you after a week or 2. especially if it's as "intense" as he said it was. Also just looking at his routine shows how poorly he trains.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 20:18 Post subject: |
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Everyone, just disregard what this fool has to say 
Just add him to ignore. He carrys no supporting grounds to carry his arguements. He cant even spell right in any of his sentences. You think coming from England would have been a plus on his native language skill.
By the way, Marciano did train everyday. He also ran 6 miles in the morning everyday. I know this because im a huge fan of his. I have all his fights on tape, including the Jersey Joe Walcott fight. I also have the simulator between him and Ali. Your sitting there and telling me (a person whos been into boxing his whole life) whats what in boxing? Whats your knowledge on dieting? Wheres your knowledge on supplements? I bet you couldnt even tell me the different styles there are in boxing. If you even get that right, its amazing. Oh, thats styles not stances Just so you dont make an ass out of yourself and say something like southpaw. Theres orthodox and southpaw for stances. Now tell me the different styles Mr. "I know everything about boxing and fitness". You dont event know wtf EPOs are. Your sad. You have no part in a discussion about boxing period. You have no part or knowledge of even being in this thread. Please leave.
If you dont leave you will be ignored. Please go back to the PC Games Forums with most of the other people who sit on their computer all day criticizing the people who actually make something of themselves in life.
Heres a better idea. Go enroll in boxing over in England, talk the way you do now, see how hard it is to fight. Also, take your own advice and use that to use your own training methods on yourself. Get a piece of a paper. Get a pencil. Write down a schedule than go to the nearest boxing gym. Learn. Than maybe in 5 months you'll actually know 1/100 of what I know.
And get the following products:
Creatine
Weight Gainer 2200
B-12 Complex
Thanks, and have a nice day.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 20:29 Post subject: |
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My literacy skills are good i also got an A in GCSE for that even though the teacher put me in for the lower exam, i argued with her in the hall and she said fine fail if u want to. i don't bother typing perfectly on here because there's no need to Also what the fuck does knowing a style of boxing have to do with training? i know that you're schedule is ineffective compared to proper 1's. i don't wanna join a boxing gym because it's not an ambition of mine either. Like i said although it was only a GCSE it was still good enough to go into college and apply for a coaching degree (which i aint doin). 1 module was to devise a training programme for 3 different sports, i didn't choose boxing but considerin i got top marks nearly on the others i'd say i have pretty good knowledge on what's right and wrong. I think my 3 sportsmen were a weihtlifter, marathon runner and a swimmer can't remember, the point is i don't care about you really. ignore me all you want it's you who's gonna be an old man with a bad back by the time your 40.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 21:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 21:20 Post subject: |
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| Sublime wrote: | | My literacy skills are good i also got an A in GCSE for that even though the teacher put me in for the lower exam, i argued with her in the hall and she said fine fail if u want to. i don't bother typing perfectly on here because there's no need to Also what the fuck does knowing a style of boxing have to do with training? i know that you're schedule is ineffective compared to proper 1's. i don't wanna join a boxing gym because it's not an ambition of mine either. Like i said although it was only a GCSE it was still good enough to go into college and apply for a coaching degree (which i aint doin). 1 module was to devise a training programme for 3 different sports, i didn't choose boxing but considerin i got top marks nearly on the others i'd say i have pretty good knowledge on what's right and wrong. I think my 3 sportsmen were a weihtlifter, marathon runner and a swimmer can't remember, the point is i don't care about you really. ignore me all you want it's you who's gonna be an old man with a bad back by the time your 40. |
Heh, we dont care about your literacy skills. They just add to the fact that you dont know nothing about boxing or fitness. You havent talked about anything detailed in boxing or fitness, or diet plans. All you said was a bunch of junk about crappy training schedules, and body taking punishment from it later on. That is false because everybodys body is different. One persons body may be able to hand that sort of punishment, anothers may not. Theres a reason why fighters are fighters, and can take the ruggedness of the sport. Their body. Style of boxing knowing wtf to do with training? Wow your retarded. The style of boxing is what you train IN. Its what you spend hours and hours in the gym for. If you were a slugger, you'd be practicing that style in the ring. You'd be learning how to swarm and get out of heavy messes when tied up against the ropes. Theres all sorts of factors. See, you just proved yourself useless. Style IS important in training. Whether your a slugger, boxer, counter puncher, or boxer-puncher, etc. you got a style. Yes, you dont really care about me yet you made such an effort to constantly reply with your bullshit on how I should train. I bet your one of those drunken idiots who sit in sports bars commenting and talking shit about the fighters your watching. Uhh, each sport requires different training bro. You maybe know a bit on fitness but I doubt that from the way your talking. Like I said, your full of shit.
I'd put your quote on training for boxing has nothing to do with styles in my sig right now, but I think you've suffered enough insult so far. Man, dont even say that in a boxing forum. You'd get laughed at. In fact, I dont know how anyone else who comes here isnt posting at how stupid you are. But I guess the majority of the people who come here are just warez addicts and people discussion games, etc. No harm done there because you wouldnt expect most of them to know fitness, let alone the aspects of boxing.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 21:29 Post subject: |
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You asked me to name styles of boxing i said what does that have to do with knowing that you're training schedule is so radical it's wrong and YOU'RE the 1 who tried to flame me over my literacy skills, again: dropped yourself in it
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 21:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 22:05 Post subject: |
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Ok "athlete" you do that *sigh*
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 22:15 Post subject: |
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lets "cool down"  abit.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 06:05 Post subject: |
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| xAiTheHitman wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | yeah, he was sick
LMAO
u know whats makin me crack up dudes?
the fact that a thread about working out turned into a flame thread lmao
like im seriously laughing out loud and that doesnt usually happen lol lol
I mean i can understand politics, religion, even videogames...but working out and fighting turning into a flame war is just fuckin funny |
Oh trust me, Sublime wouldnt be doing this in a real gym. He'd probably get arrested for inciting a riot and get harrassment charges pushed on him.
The reason why I made this thread was to see how many people here were training for different sports. Also, I was curious about their training regimens. I also came to ask a few questions about certain diet plans.
Another thing is yes, the fighters in todays generation for boxing are bigger than the eras of say Marciano, Braddock, or even Ali. The reason that is today sports science played a big role in that. We know more about what the body can take and what to fuel it. But hey, if the fighters from that era where born today I think they'd be bigger due to todays science and training regimens.
Back than they used to have fighters run miles. Today they do it in intervals and rounds. The reason for that is to just be conditioned running for the rounds. I imagine if you just ran without intervals you'd be overtraining. Me, I'm all for overtraining. I'm not sure what you do Syco or Skid. I been using the intervals and round workouts for running. That definately works better for phsyical heavy bag stuff. But I'm still out in the open about the running part. I think that the more you run (not just run for the duration of a round and stop for a rest), the more of an advantage you got for pacing the ring, and more stamina. I dont play soccer, but I'm sure soccer players run alot. I'm confused about the running. I know the heavybag training is whats making you hit with more power and more speed.
I'm wondering if Syco can answer if icecream is considered junk food? Some people tell me to eat that to gain even more weight, and some tell me to stay away from it.
The running part I was talking about above is a open debate if running without intervals makes your stamina go up (thus running for more than the minutes of a round). Whats better and whats not? Also running for 3 hours is good. Always bring drinks with you to if you run. |
hmmm..ice cream, well, id go for sugarless ice cream cuz sugar burns you out but really, its up to you and ur body type.
I dont think im a good example of gettin fit..more being fit
I never had to get fit. Like, when i was kid i was always doing stupid shit like climbing trees, fighting, running around etc I had alot of muscle definition from early on in life...so when i started into martial arts at like 8 or 9, i didnt have to worry about eating junk food.
When i was competing on the world circut and training 8 hours a day
afterward, we'd FEAST...like fuckin ribs, back, mashed potatoes, beer, mad junk food...the works ya know. We were never health aware lol Even now, I dont watch what I eat and ive only maybe gained like 5 pounds since i stopped regular working out - i train 3 times a week now, 3 hours each session.
Also, ive smoked (numerous shit besides tobacco aswell) since i was 12 years old and i can go for a 6 km run no problem (jog)
Really, u gotta just test ur body out if ur just gettin into it. See how fast u lose weight as compared to gaining and burn more calories than u consume, if u mean muscle, well, fuck lol, there are so many different approaches, my method may not work for u and vise versa...and remember, its better to be cut like a motherfucker than have 24 inch arms...size really doesnt matter at all in a real fight..boxing, yep...but in a street fight or in a fight u might encounter in the military, size doesnt mean a thing...the only thing that counts really is speed and...this sounds gay, but the hardness of ur body
Im a relatively small guy, but I am solid. Everything is as tight as it can be without trainging for sport. Also, mentallity is a huge part of combat. if ur in a life or death situation, defending yourself isnt the problem - thats instinct...but are u willing to kill someone with ur bare hands instead of say beating the piss outta em and hoping they dont go re-enlist in their squad? I dont know ur reasons for training, but my fighting ability, now anyway, is solely meant for the intent to do harm and as much possible, depending on the situation. Instead of say jumpin around with some guy in a bar tryin to look flashy, I go for the one 2 combo. Let the man throw a punch, trap (look it up - its catching a manuver in progress - very easy after u practice for a while - sounds hard when u first learn) and apply a joint/pressure point lock...I usually tend to use joint locks as u can shatter someone's arm and get away with self defence...but u can accidently kill someone when using pressure points and thats manslaughter so fuck it. A buddy of mine is in jail for that now (excessive force)...5 years now.
He smashed this guys face in after we were coming outta a bar and we seen him slapping his girl. The guy died and he got 8-10 years for it cuz he's a 2nd degree in Go-Ju and kempo. Total bs.
Lol kinda got off topic
suffice to say u gotta experiment
And about the flames, lol i dont care man...its not like u guys are doin it in a stupid way...like fuck u, u dick and simply leaving it at that.
Not everyone agrees with one another and sometimes u need to call ppl names and shit, in a mature way (oxymoron?).
Know what i mean? swear in the context of backing up what uve said previously...not just a post cursing the person.
Really, i liked arguing with u before hitman
I can take being told to fuck off and such
Its also good to be civil mind u
My name suits my personality huh?
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 10:01 Post subject: |
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Well I train to win. Its not really killing your enemy as if that was known as my real intentions, I'm sure I'd be kicked out of boxing because psychology, I wouldnt be up there. What would happen if I went into every fight looking to kill someone just for boxing? I'm sure if someone died in ring the by my hands I wouldnt be blamed because its a sport. If someone where to die in the middle of the ring, I'd be let off the hook automatically because its a sport. I have no control over that. Your whole objective is to knock the other guy out. Atleast thats mine. I wouldnt want to take it easy on the guy and hope for a points decision at the end of the fight. I'd have to say my goal is to win and kill the guy. Thats how I train. I train to win and not to be a slacker in the fight. I'm sure alot of people have the same attitude. The difference is a fight lasts longer in the ring most of the time than it would in a real life, life or death situation. There are rules ya know.
And its not really the fact of someones opinions being different when it comes to this. Sublime was just factually wrong in everything he said. But I'm not going into that again because hes on ignore.
Well, heres the deal about fitness. I know for a fact junkfood isnt good for you. Its just about icecream. I know thats something you use to gain weight. If you eat alot of icecream everyday, your bound to put on some pounds. I was basically wondering if it would do more bad than good at the end. Thats all questions though.
I'm not exactly 100% healthy either. I broke my jaw awhile ago and I have to get surgery for it. But after surgery, I'm going to have another fight. The problem is, mine is career deciding. If I dont get it done, I wouldnt be in the military because it would be seen as a medical condition. So thats why I have to get it done, ya know? Not sure if you've ever been injured Syco, but it takes do alot to you psychologically. Sometimes, it even depressed me to the point where I stopped in middle of training for a day. But than I realized, hell, thats not the way to go. Problem is, jaw is soo bad I need bone grafts. Doctor will make an incision in my mouth, add bone from my hip. But good news is after that, I'm as good as new. And I dont regret fighting either. Theres alot of fighters who after they get injured, not only run themselves down, but end up regretting what they did. My willpower I'll say is phnuenominal. The hardest thing I ever had to do was get off drugs though. Not funny either. I'm sure alot of people here have done 'em. The worst part of it is when you mix PCP with weed, hydro, salvia, and other shit. In case some of you havent heard by now, salvia is a new drug. I'd say cocaine wasnt as bad as PCP though. Basically because PCP is a psychotropic drug and cocaine is a extreme stimulant. So I basically got off all them with no help which was almost impossible, and didnt suffer brain damage. Most of the people who take all that stuff suffer brain damage. That shit is just terrible. But hey, you eventually learn. Thank god I did before it was too late.
Whats your story Syco?
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