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Risen was pretty polished for a PB game imo. I didnt have any serious issues during my play-through at release. I was quite surprised, especially as I had bought Gothic 3 on release (and we all know how unpolished that was...).
I hope Risen 2 is fairly well polished at release, no crashes or gamebreakers.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th May 2011 12:41 Post subject: |
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Somewhat related: http://www.worldofrisen.de/english/article_329.htm
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| Posted: Thu, 5th May 2011 22:29 Post subject: |
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Fuck consoles, and fuck console players for not leaving our genres alone! FFS!
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| Posted: Thu, 5th May 2011 22:38 Post subject: |
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If I'm not mistaken Risen 1 PC was vastly superior to the console version in terms of visuals 
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 13:21 Post subject: |
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lmfao. The guy that asked the question must be a Dragon Age fan
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 13:39 Post subject: |
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"We didn't do it in this game."
Translation: this is a true RPG, not the usual Bioware trash 
@DarkRohirrim: Impressive comparative screens 
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:33 Post subject: |
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I have complete faith in PB. Heck, I loved G3, they don't get more loyal fans than me!
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:37 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:42 Post subject: |
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I don't understand why they would cater to fucktards on consoles though. Gothic 4 failed, Risen 1 failed, Two worlds 2 failed as far as i know. Why the hell try to screw things up when they already have a huge fanbase by catering to shitheads on consoles and screwing over the loyal PC players? I know i will stamp Piranha Bytes with my hatestamp if they try anything stupid.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:45 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | I have complete faith in PB. Heck, I loved G3, they don't get more loyal fans than me! |
I think with the last patch it's just as good as the first Gothic games, I don't know what's with all the shit thrown at it. It definately has the most beautiful world in the franchise, the music was as good as the music in the first games if not better, it stayed true to the lore. Yeah, the plot wasn't that great, but who cares when everything else is so good.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:49 Post subject: |
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Yes, Gothic 3 with CP 1.74 is absolutely beautiful in all ways!!^^
Walking like a madman on a barbed wire across the chaos of insanity
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:50 Post subject: |
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| kenny64 wrote: | | I don't understand why they would cater to fucktards on consoles though. Gothic 4 failed, Risen 1 failed, Two worlds 2 failed as far as i know. Why the hell try to screw things up when they already have a huge fanbase by catering to shitheads on consoles and screwing over the loyal PC players? I know i will stamp Piranha Bytes with my hatestamp if they try anything stupid. |
Risen 1 failed? I didn't get the memo! Sure, it was light on end-game content, but the game was fun, very much so. I play it occasionally even today.
The others you are right about.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:50 Post subject: |
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Still can't fix the combat though. Really loved Gothic 1 and 2's combat.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:53 Post subject: |
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| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | Radicalus wrote: | | I have complete faith in PB. Heck, I loved G3, they don't get more loyal fans than me! |
I think with the last patch it's just as good as the first Gothic games, I don't know what's with all the shit thrown at it. It definately has the most beautiful world in the franchise, the music was as good as the music in the first games if not better, it stayed true to the lore. Yeah, the plot wasn't that great, but who cares when everything else is so good. |
The plot was a bit rushed, but the freedom the game world offered was great. I can't recall precise names and places, but I remember, when I wanted to learn the highest tear of weapon crafting from magic ore, I had to please a whole lot of weapon smiths. At one point, I had to find one of them, who wandered off from his hometown. The first time I tried to track him down, I found him dead, killed by a pack of wolves. I had no saves, I was angry, but finished the game never learning that feat. Know what I think of the whole deal now? Brilliant! Next time I was more careful though
G3 offered unparalleled freedom to kill whoever you want, be whoever you want, chose your side, be kind, be merciless. It was great!
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:58 Post subject: |
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I actually enjoyed TW2, but Arcania was mehh. But none of those games sold particularly well on consoles so i'm left to think there isn't any special interest for those types of games on consoles.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 14:59 Post subject: |
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I liked Risen's melee combat. Magic was overpowered.
Risen was a fail on the consoles, but even if it was technically excellent, the console crowd doesn't appreciate depth - they have proved this time and time again. They appreciate shooters, where they can get their fix the fastest ....
But the funniest thing is, even shooters suck on consoles, nothing compares to q3a or any UT game when it comes to high-octane, adrenaline pumping *skill based* shooting!
Call of Duty? Makes me fall asleep ...
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 15:00 Post subject: |
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Risen is excellent, but combat needs some fine tuning. There is nothing like trying to kill a giant monster who keeps jumping backwards when you try to hit it. And the only solution is to back it into a wall.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 17:48 Post subject: |
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-05-why-gothic-dev-piranha-dumped-jowood
But no... some people still kept saying the contrary in that JoWhores thread.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th May 2011 19:19 Post subject: |
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Its quite obvious that G3 was rushed. I doubt tho that Jowood are the only ones responsible for the state that game was in. Piranha Bytes did change game mechanics considerably compared to the previous games and I don't think they could make it work even with enough time.
If they thought G3 was the right direction, Risen would be a different game.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 10:28 Post subject: |
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Well, this was sad. When she said the two reasons Risen sucked, was 1. PB not knowing how to make an RPG (she said this exactly - made by people, who don't understand RPGs), and they didn't pay attention to RPG games of the past. (Hello!) 2. They didn't pay attention to their audiences needs.
And ironically, she doesn't know it, but she is right about point 2 when it comes to modern RPGs. Only, the derpbox players are the ones RPG makers should not pay attention to. Serious RPGs are not meant for people, who play mostly on consoles. Sorry, but that's the truth.
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