Mass Effect 3
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 19:36    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
timechange01 wrote:
Female Shepard + Kasumi + Miranda = Sexy team

"The Real Housewives of Masss Effect"

also incapable of doing anything good team.
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fable2




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 19:38    Post subject:
i can imagine the cat fights between Ashley and Miranda in me3
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beyond1




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 20:47    Post subject:
fable2 wrote:
i can imagine the cat fights between Ashley and Miranda in me3


Well since there was a possibility of Miranda getting killed in ME2, her role probably won't be big this time. Probably a cameo like the one with Wrex in ME2, or maybe a confrontation where you have the ability to kill her since she is a Cerberus loyalist afterall.
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Dm242




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 21:02    Post subject:
They'll probably all be "playable" as long as u dont get them killed or hated by them.
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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 22:40    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
iNatan wrote:
I lost them all. lol wut What I do now? Break my arm at the reapers? Laughing


Sadly no... the "lose everyone" choice isn't really a choice at all. BioWare have said that no matter what you do at the end of ME2, Shepard DOES survive as it's his story for ME3. If you killed Shepard, then that part is magically forgotten Laughing


I smell that Bioware backed down on that decision just so that they could release the game faster. Still....that's the biggest fail I've seen in the series to far. I could live with the cheap DLC but backing down from one of the most pivotal decisions in game? Really? Why the heck did they release Mass Effect 2 in the first place if that wasn't even a suicide mission.

As for Garus and Wrex. I like Garus but having an old battle hardened krogan battlemaster with a sick sense of humor, deep voice and a biotic on top of that vs a crippled but friendly turian. Fuck it....I'll take Wrex any day. At least if they don't make Wrex a permanent companion I sure hope that pubescent retard of a krogan that you had in ME2 doesn't come back in my team.

Best team that I used was male shepard, wrex and asley probably. My mind couldn't bare the thought of being boned by another man. Call it homophobia, I call it a healthy mind.
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 22:56    Post subject:
Predator_Soul wrote:
Best team that I used was male shepard, wrex and asley probably. My mind couldn't bare the thought of being boned by another man. Call it homophobia, I call it a healthy mind.
Ashley was close enough. Cool Face


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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timemaster89




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2011 22:56    Post subject:
Predator_Soul wrote:
I like Garus but... Fuck it....I'll take Wrex any day.


Oh, and don't forget...

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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 00:26    Post subject:
Addition to the list of details:

This preview mentions that 70% of people weren't faithful to their ME1 romance, and that this will come back to bite them.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Mikey5449
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 00:30    Post subject:
That's lame. The other person (form ME1) chose to disown me when she saw me. I wasn't "unfaithful", I was dumped. So I moved on.
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DCB




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 06:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Sadly no... the "lose everyone" choice isn't really a choice at all. BioWare have said that no matter what you do at the end of ME2, Shepard DOES survive as it's his story for ME3. If you killed Shepard, then that part is magically forgotten Laughing

When did they start saying that? They always said if you died at the end of ME2 that you couldn't import that save into ME3 as that Shepard was permanently dead:

Casey Hudson wrote:
Dead is dead. Mass Effect 3, as with the rest of the trilogy, is Shepard’s story. If you have a dead Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2, that saved game won’t import into Mass Effect 3. You can play Mass Effect 3 if you died in Mass Effect 2 of course, but you’ll have to create a new Shepard. Harsh? Yes. But we wouldn’t be serious about the concept of a suicide mission if you couldn’t die and your death didn’t have serious consequences.


That hasn't changed that I am aware of.
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Mikey5449
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 09:48    Post subject:
I think what Sabin means is that technically speaking, if you die in ME2, then YOUR Shepard's story is through/done. Unless you get a different ending or roll a new Shep, you can't continue in ME3.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:12    Post subject:
Exactly! So the "suicide" mission means nothing, because if Shepard is dead then you can't import into ME3. So what's the point of having the choice/option if it's just going to be swept under the rug when you start ME3?
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:27    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Exactly! So the "suicide" mission means nothing, because if Shepard is dead then you can't import into ME3. So what's the point of having the choice/option if it's just going to be swept under the rug when you start ME3?


How would you handle it? Another bs resurrection? Or just have no way for Shepard to die? It is better than stupid Awakening where you could import your dead Warden and he was still alive.

At least this way there is some kind of consequence even though it's a lame metagaming one (can't import save).
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Prismvg




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:27    Post subject:
It's not swept under the rug. You just start with a default Shepard, as you can't import the save-game. You don't seriously expect them to make a scenario to fit Shepard's death in the SM - new main character, crap-loads of other characters, etc.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:33    Post subject:
I'd handle it by not having the possibility for Shepard to die. There's a good start.
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Prismvg




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:37    Post subject:
On the other hand, it would take a complete derp not to be able to save ANYONE in the suicide mission (not talking about those who do it intentionally), so someone like that doesn't even deserve to play ME3. Razz
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:40    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I'd handle it by not having the possibility for Shepard to die. There's a good start.


So you are actually advocating less choices in games? Rolling Eyes

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 11:40    Post subject:
Someone like that doesn't deserve to own a game machine... period Laughing

lol @ dsergei
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 12:00    Post subject:
Adding an option to kill the main character in a planned trilogy is bullshit anyway. Just like most choices in Bioware games, it's only an illusion of choice.
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 12:13    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
illusion of choice


Fuck yeah, baby, that's so fucking next-gen!!! Cool Face
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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 12:48    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Exactly! So the "suicide" mission means nothing, because if Shepard is dead then you can't import into ME3. So what's the point of having the choice/option if it's just going to be swept under the rug when you start ME3?


How would you handle it? Another bs resurrection? Or just have no way for Shepard to die? It is better than stupid Awakening where you could import your dead Warden and he was still alive.

At least this way there is some kind of consequence even though it's a lame metagaming one (can't import save).


Yeah...that was shit but at least they added the possibility to play as a completely different Warden from Orlais.

Here... Shepard gets magically flown down from heaven by a magical unicorn no matter what you do(in case you kill the entire team). They could have introduced another possible Specter candidate throughout ME1 and ME2 if they weren't stumbling blindly in the dark without even them knowing wtf is going to happen next.

I understand you must be a complete dumb ass to kill Shepard at the end of ME2 but that would have made replaying the entire trilogy a very interesting possibility. As it stands now your choices only trigger a few side missions and reactions from other characters. I guess I'll have to wait and see how they all make a lasting impact in ME3.
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peter980




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 12:53    Post subject:
The things is if you kill Shepard you killed Shepard. His choices die with him. Anyone who you play then in ME3 is not that Shepard, but "cannon Shepard".

It is supposed to be "a bad choice", that kills all your other choices.
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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 13:03    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:
The things is if you kill Shepard you killed Shepard. His choices die with him. Anyone who you play then in ME3 is not that Shepard, but "cannon Shepard".

It is supposed to be "a bad choice", that kills all your other choices.

Yes...so you actually create a temporal paradox? Or Arnold gets sent back in time to protect little Shepard? How the heck does that explain things?! Or will my dead Shepard appear in the next season of Fringe?

It's not like Mass Effect is like any other RPG (with the exception of a few other Bioware games) where you create an anonymous character from scratch. Killing him should have some greater repercussions than getting a hard reset story wise. So my decisions aren't worth shit in the Mass Effect universe and get overwritten by canon when EAWARE decides to dump the next title. And who the fuck decides what happened in the canon with so multiple variations.

Great....there goes the biggest driving factor for the entire Mass Effect franchise. Hurray!!
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peter980




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 13:05    Post subject:
Nope, you just play new game with new character (not your Shepard), in no way related to previous story (that story ended when you got him killed).

If you want to experience full story in your own way, you need to have your actual character alive. Makes sense?
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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 13:39    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:
Nope, you just play new game with new character (not your Shepard), in no way related to previous story (that story ended when you got him killed).

If you want to experience full story in your own way, you need to have your actual character alive. Makes sense?

Makes me wonder if your trying to convince me or yourself. Read my posts again maybe you'll figure it out.

I'm criticizing the cheap way they've done it not how they've done it. It makes no sense to the story continuity.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 13:56    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
illusion of choice


Fuck yeah, baby, that's so fucking next-gen!!! Cool Face

you mean like in BIOSHOCK 1 when the main ending was a BINK movie that was the same for every choice you made Laughing
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Prismvg




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 14:19    Post subject:
There is no "canon" Shepard. Canon does not exist in Mass Effect. There is only a "default", created for non-import playthroughs. No decision is overwritten IF it is imported.
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peter980




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 14:24    Post subject:
Predator_Soul wrote:
I'm criticizing the cheap way they've done it not how they've done it. It makes no sense to the story continuity.


But there is not supposed to be any continuity. If you die in ME2, story ENDS. Just because you can play "3rd chapter" with "default" Shepard doesn't mean story from ME2/ME1 with heroic death continues. It ended with ME2, game over.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 14:52    Post subject:
Then the choice meant nothing. Jesus... I think Predator is right; you're just trying to convince yourself. If you can have a "heroic death" at the end of ME2, yet still he lives in ME3 ... that just shows the choice is naught but illusion.
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peter980




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th May 2011 15:02    Post subject:
Heh... how it does not mean anything??? By choosing it, you can't benefit from playing that character, and enjoying his other choices in next game, since that character is DEAD. His story ended.

You can play other character, or replay ME from scratch, or play just ME2 or ME3, or do whatever else, but guy who dies in ME2 is dead. You killed your character and consequence is that you can't play ME3 with that character.
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