Faulty ASUS P8P67 B3 news?
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 16:06    Post subject: Faulty ASUS P8P67 B3 news?
So i've been google'in about reviews and user comments on the newest ASUS P8P67 B3 MoBo..and things arent as good as i tought

1.Some boards FRIES UP the RAM Slots

2.Cant fit some aftermarket coolers due to the blue heatsinks on the board near the CPU socket

3.EFI BIOS cant be accessed with a USB Mouse or Keyboard (some people says "it's because of the PSU",and it is!..XILENCE PSUs)

4.USB 3.0 ports doesnt works even if a 2.0 version is plugged in

5.You must go into the BIOS quickly to change RAM speeds to the ones mentioned in the RAM you bought...like,if you bought a 1333mhz RAM,BIOS could start at lower or higher,making it malfunction directly (See point 1?)

6.DEAD ON ARRIVAL

(all of these,sides of google,also comes from newegg.com)

P8P67 B3 owners..did all of this happend to you too or something different?,if so mention it..i was going to get this board but after seeing all this shit from a fixed (B3) board...i'm afraid i'll get stucked in my actual board grinhurt..

Also,what similar or better alternative for this board would be as long it has less or none? errors than the P8P67?,saw GIGABYTE came out first with the B3 thing but ASUS been nice.. like this Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3...but the only GIGABYTE thing i have is a 460GTX 1,5GB GPU grinhurt...thou it works great for now...

What do you guys think? (aaand no trolling...)


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 17:28    Post subject:
Wat. I'm really considering buying some other mobo now Very Happy
I was going for the same Asus before.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 17:55    Post subject:
Just recently bought the P8P67-M mainboard. My experiences:
1. Dunno, hasn't happen yet.
2. The aftermarket cooler I bought was the Mugen 2 Rev. B CPU Cooler. It fits and cools okay. Have to say though that the P8P67 mainboard has an extra blue heatsink near the CPU socket.
3. When installing Win7 x64 I had my USB-mouse in one of the USB 3 slots, that did not work. Keyboard did not work initially but after another warm boot it did.
4. Seems Asus used at least 2 different USB 3 chips for these boards. Renesas/Nec and ASmedia. The driver for ASMEdia worked for me. Lemme check plugging the USB-mouse to a USB 3 slot... yep works.
5. I was not very charmed to learn that I had to manually select the DRAM speed and clocks but filled in 1866 MHz and 9 10 9 27 (figures according to manufacturer) and memory is stable.

Perhaps this is a bit useful although I have a different P8P67 series MoBo then the one your inquire about.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 18:17    Post subject:
i've got the sabertooth version (it's more or less the same iirc) and didn't have any problems with it. EFI bios works with usb mouse, my massive noctua cooler fits just fine and the ram isn't smoking either.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 18:21    Post subject:
but you need some special cooler for the Sabertooth,since like..the entire board is covered with that plastic protector so only the connectors are shown and you dont get lost in it,wich means LOADS N LOADS OF HEAT are stucked under there,wich might cause components to,soon or later,MELT....Also it's older than the P8P67,so it might not have the same special functions or something (RAM Pins,cooler fit for other specific coolers (check Zalman or Thermaltake's 1155 socket gallery.see their huge size grinhurt).

That's my tought...


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 19:00    Post subject:
Hmm I bought the P8P67-M mainboard with 2 x 4 GB Corsair modules and an i7 2600k CPU with stock cooler. Besides gaming I do 24/7 distributed computing and with some projects 8 GB is not unnecessary luxury, hence I do a project now that could use 4 x 4 GB memory from time to time. @ 3,7 Ghz, HT off and running 4 threads for a certain project with stock cooler, the temps were way too high, like 74 degrees Celsius max for one of the cores. Installed the aforementioned aftermarket cooler and now temps are max 60 degrees Celsius with HT on, @ 4 GHz. There is room for further overclocking.

DV2, your list in the 1st post seems like complaints from people who really don't know what they are doing except for the ones that had a DOA.

Something else, the cheaper P8P67 MoBo's (M, M Pro) come with a BIOS with limitations, a BIOS that has lesser options for OC'ing. Still no problems here, I use the Turbo mode and set the V-core with the option to set extra Voltage in T-mode.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 19:46    Post subject:
@iconized: what games do you play with that?..got Team Fortress 2?

Would a Thermaltake Frio OCK or a Zalman CNPS10X Extreme aftermarket coolers would fit the CPU?... (Already tried google,nobody dared to comment it)


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 20:43    Post subject:
Got no issues with it. 100% A-OK.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 20:49    Post subject:
I play Xsyon, not a mainstream game, when I start it I take away 1 core (2 on HT) for DC. For hardcore gaming HT is better switched off anyway so you can OC a lot more.

About a good cooler: Either try to find the specs for the measurements or Google.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2011 20:54    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
Got no issues with it. 100% A-OK.


@Fisk: Since the EFI BIOS has screenshot mode or something,dont you mind doing some like..the "priority boot" (aka what needs to load first),the AHCI/IDE mode change to each HDD? thing and dunno,other screenshots by yourself?.. (No need for OC S.Shots)

A cooler like this could fit? http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=442


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th May 2011 14:43    Post subject:
z68 boards are out and seems like the perfect replacement for P8P67 and P8H67? i think (ike a marriage tween 2 boards and a super baby board comes out grinhurt)

What are the differences?,i've heard the blue heatsinks on the board are smaller to fit better all the coolers out there,better CPU control? profit and more stuff...

What are the PROS and CONS against the P8P67?..and does it comes with the B3 revision already,even if the box has no mention of it? (i dun wanna pick it up and see the SATA ports fucked up like before B3)

If i dont OC is it still worth the money or should i stick to P8P67 buyin toughts (incase the above list is something to not worry about whatever)? ..

And will there be any performance boost on Team Fortress 2 from using an E8400 to a SB 2500 on Windows XP/7 64bits??

ASUS...are you failng on me?


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th May 2011 16:15    Post subject:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z68_DELUXE/#specifications

Looks nice! But if you really want the best you need triple channel memory architecture:
http://www.ninjalane.com/articles/general_information/dualvtriple/page3.aspx


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th May 2011 16:22    Post subject:
No you don't Smile

Looks very impressive in these synthetic benchmarks, but in the real world there are very few applications that will see any benefit at all. Video encoding for example might save you a whole second on a 30 minute job Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th May 2011 16:26    Post subject:
i'm not into OC (neither CPU nor RA)...and i dun understand some MB specifications...just askin for a P8P67 VS P8Z68 comparison of pros n cons...and just lookin for the default version (no Deluxe nor shits that adds more to the cost),to save money and efforts or whatever...

Also,a main game i play is Team Fortress 2,wich i mentioned a question above for everyone (if you,iconized,dun have it,no need to answer it),since it's a CPU game eater and that's why i ask if i'll notice performance boost due to 4 cores usage? and well..newer CPU etc..

i already google'd help about the TF2 + SB usage,but noooo,no results at all (Chicken users fappin with SB in TF2?)


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th May 2011 21:11    Post subject:
DV2, I was pulling your leg.
But seriously you are not into overclocking and the game TF2 is a bit older and runs excellent on some older systems:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2209199,00.asp
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2209201,00.asp
Asus' P8P67 series are designed for oc'ing and usage of higher speed memory, the P8Z68 series are designed for oc'ing and extreme gaming (4 slots for GPUs in crossfirex or sli).
TF2 does not benefit from CPUs with more than 2 cores or hyper threading.
Basically an i3 CPU, some MoBo with 2 x 1 GB memory and Win7 x86 would suffice for TF2.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th May 2011 22:46    Post subject:
Then i think i'm finally done with the questionaire and troubleshootin shit about ASUS' newest boards....aka not gonna buy nothing for now until real upgrade or well,super price drop?

Tell me,what should i upgrade from my actual rig to make it better?...or faster...not asking for SSD (due to their sudden deaths and shitty probs with IDE mode).

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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 08:09    Post subject:
Dude. I'm running P5K Pro, 4GB DDR2, C2D E8400 @3.6 GHz and HD6870 and I'm only upgrading my CPU for CAD applications (Quaddro is overkill for home PC).
I'm not having any problems atm with games or apps.
Why are you upgrading after all? Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 09:41    Post subject:
USB 3.0 (got an external HDD with 3.0 n 2.0),4 cores,64bits programs (winrar,vegas pro,pinnacle studio,photoshop cs5.1) and upcomin games with multiple cores,but meeeeeeh

Nor me with the probs...some people says "get an SSD!" others " better Ram speeds!"


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 11:41    Post subject:
Those saying better RAM speeds are retards Smile

Faster RAM is good for synthetic benchmarks, and to some extent extracting archives (mostly on 64-bit systems though), but it's not gonna make your system feel any snappier or make games run better.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 11:56    Post subject:
So what could help?...,a heatsink for my 460GTX (Gigabyte) to prevent overheat/BSOD (Zalman's my personal fav...) or...?..


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 12:14    Post subject:
Well an SSD is still the single most effective upgrade. Makes it boot crazy fast, applications load pretty much instantly and the whole system just responds to everything immediately.

Apart from that, games still prefer clock speed over core count. A dual core at 3.8 GHz is more effective than a quad core at 2.8 in most games. That said, the newer CPUs are much easier to overclock, and they are more efficient per MHz; a SB at 3.2 or something like that will be able to match the old C2D at 3.8; needless to say that at equal clock speeds, the SB will win.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 13:04    Post subject:
i've seen ,on NewEgg.com,that SSDs dies easily and it has many probs on IDE configurations,no matter XP or 7...i know there's the AHCI mode and that on 7 it goes great,but the prob of 7 is that Team Fortress 2 doesnt runs as it should...(on XP goes so-weeet) and that just already kills me for just one game (Seriously)

If i had IDE on XP that would help,yeah,but i dun wanna kill 240~€ ! (kill as in "buy then in a few months BOOOOOOOOOM")

And i'm not into overclocking,so an upgrade to SB would not be worth so you say (3,2Ghz VS C2D 3,8 = Errrrrr....)


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2011 13:06    Post subject:
SSDs don't die easily, that's fucking bullshit.

And I already explained to you why XP is not an option. It won't kill the SSD, it will just make it slow as shit, completely going against the whole point of buying an SSD. It's also got nothing to do with IDE/AHCI, it's got to do with TRIM.
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2011 01:00    Post subject:
For the people that want to buy a nice board for overclocking, don't buy the P8P67-M or P8P67-M Pro boards. Lacks the possibility to set the V-core. There is a workaround but somehow something seems to kick in that delimits your OC.


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