[XBOX] Forza Motorsport
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phunt




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 13:32    Post subject:
Well i just have to add my 2 peneth.I got bored of GT4 very quickly...some old shit as the other 3.were as forza has got me considering throwing a sicky so i can stay at home an play.I really dont know how anyone can say the gfx are shite...some of the road textures look real.I think people that dont like this game are gonna be the ones that shouldnt really be playing it anyway,they'de be better off slamming into lamposts on dub or nfsu.This game is for true racers that care about which line they take through corners and adjusting there braking points each time round the same corner just to shave off that extra 10th of a sec.Im so hyped about the xbox live side of this game,I just love seeing my name up in lights as one of the fastest drivers but im not very good at setting up cars so i think the downloadable setups side of things is an awesome feature.Finally something differant..................
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Horrordee
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 15:02    Post subject:
Well i've just spent about 2 hours with the career mode and it's brilliant. I've just this moment finished pre-ordering this baby, and the day its out i'll own it.

The game is brilliant, and I must add, to all people worrying it'll be too hard for them, i believed this also, specially after the demo. However this just isn't the case. I'm sure you know this, but you can choose different options to increase the difficulty, and each of these increase the percentage reward for winning a race - making the game as easy or difficult as you wish. I think I increased CPU difficulty and a few other options and instead of getting the generic 3000 credits for a race, I was getting about 3800, which is cool. That was still with ABS and traction, and the driving/braking line on too!

You progress through levels, you win your first race and then enter level one, and with the more credits you win, you increase through the levels... I got to about level 4/5 after a hour of playing and that was with pretty much coming first in each race.

When you begin, you get to choose a area to work with, and a car from that area. I choose Europe and the Audi TT and the car model looks brilliant. If you choose Europe, it's harder to get cars which are made in America or Asia, and I like this feature too.

When you first play there aren't an aweful lot of races to play but unlocking competitions (made up of around 3 races) on either the point to point section or the general circuit section unlock more and more, and you can choose the route you take.

The graphics on the game really are brilliant, and with a small blur effect the level of realism really comes alive, in my opininon the game pushes the xbox with no tearing or slowdowns at all. Definately the best driving game graphicly.

Sound is also amazing. When I played a bit of Systemlink with my mate we found ourselves gigling when we choose a F1 car - it sounded lovely - really, it's got to be heard. On the note of systemlink, it's great fun. You don't just get points for WINNING, as some times the cars are unfairly matched and one is at a great advantage. Just as with single player, you get extra points for your cars rarity, so if you pull out a mini cooper and race it against a suped up Audi TT, and then loose, you'll still find yourself only a few points out from the winner (depending on whether you made a good drive!).

The only disapointing aspect I have found so far is that the game doesn't support split-screen systemlink, meaning it's not possible to have four people play on two xboxs - something I found disapointing but quite expected really. And when you comparing the multiplayer aspects of this one to the likes of GT4, you see that even with this small issue, Forza kicks the shit out of GT4.

I can't say i've played alot of GT4, and therefore I dont think it'd be fair to say Forza is better, however, if it isn't, GT4 really must be one HELL of a game, because believe me, Forza is the best there is on the xbox, full stop.

Even if you're not a driving game fan, give this one a go, you may be suprised by it - and if you find the Career too difficult, the game's definately worth it just for the Arcade section which is alot easier and more interesting in the short term.

Overall, I recommend you all buy this one, the devlopers really deserve the support, it's a brilliant game, highly recommended.

Graphics - 9.5 / 10
Audio - 9 / 10
Gameplay - 9.5 / 10
Multiplayer - 9 / 10
Lasting appeal - 9.5 / 10
Overall - 9.5 / 10


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jonels
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 16:01    Post subject:
just played for 2 races in arcade mode, and i cannot believe how dissapointing this is ... the graphics are shit (be honest), though replays look ok... how can a machine with 3 times (supposedly) the rendering power of a ps2 fail so miserably in comparison to gt4

maybe the game is really good , but i have to get past the shitty graphics first


I looked up "gormless" in the dictionary, it said "without gorm" .... so i looked up "gorm" but it wasn't there ????
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BossmanCG




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 16:23    Post subject:
I'm having problems starting the game from HDD ... I get a black screen and then my XBOX freezes ... I have correctly set the time and date, cleared E:\Cache & deactivated IGR, but to no avail ... and I tried with two dashboards (Avalaunch & EvoX), but no luck ...

Any ideas what it might be?

I have a ver 1.6 XBOX with Alladin ModChip
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snapon




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 16:31    Post subject:
I wanna know how peoples opinion of the graphics can differ so much :\ For example OXM, other publications will call this stunning and pushing the 'box to the limits.

GT4 aside, how does it graphically compare to say Project Gotham 2. Which for me was/is the best looking racing game to date.

GT4 at times is beautiful, but if your eyes wonder away from the cars it looks not so beautiful.

Anyways, Forza - pre-ordered it myself, cant wait to start my own car club Smile Thats where its gotta be at for this kinda game, Live play. Something even GT4 couldnt offer.

Heard theres no weather effects in the game? thats a bit crappy i guess..
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sjoerf




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 18:58    Post subject:
This is the best looking racing game on the xbox. Gt4 doesn't even come close, not even in it's semi 1080i mode.

Have any of you guys complaining about the graphics even played this game????
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 19:06    Post subject:
level 10 now, still not upgraded anything yet, just using the cars that you win.
Game reminds me of rallisport challange for some reason, maybe the powerslides. Still its the best xbox racing game ever, but i still prefer GT4.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 19:31    Post subject:
Could anyone answer this: Why can´t you paint the aftermarket-parts manufacturer decals? It´s seen in screenshots that it is possible.


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kintama




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 19:59    Post subject:
When I get the game in a few moments, I will then come back and give the definitive answer on if this game sucks. I know you are all waiting patiently for my 2 cents, so I will try to be quick about it.....hahahahahahaha Rolling Eyes


I really hope this a good racing game. Race Driver 2 really kicked my ass, and ended up pissing me off more then anything.
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trifix




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 20:04    Post subject:
About GFX:

Forza vs GT4

+ more detailed tracks. The tracks feels more alive.
+ skidmarks (yes i WANT skidmarks in a racing game)
+ damage to cars
- Somewhat blurry GFX that makes the overall look of the game a little less pleasent on the eye.
- The cars look a little less detailed because of the blurry gfx when in fact they probably aren't.
- The cars looks a little bit more plastic then GT4.
- 30 FPS against GT4's 60 FPS

On a little sidenote the audio is by FAR better in GT4 when it comes to "being there". I just LOVE the sound of the wind in GT4. Overall GT4 is better at putting the player IN the car. Forza don't take much account to bumpy roads. Nurburgring for an example is almost undrivable with a GT car at over 200mph in GT4 because of the bumpy road (as it should be).

Does anybody know why most Xbox games are a little blurry compared to PS2 games ? GT3/4 & Metal Gear Solid 2/3 for an example are crisp as hell.


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kintama




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 20:09    Post subject:
A TV show is run at 30 FPS. As long as it doesn't slow down alot, and is steady, It will be good for me.
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keptang




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 20:37    Post subject:
BossmanCG wrote:
I'm having problems starting the game from HDD ... I get a black screen and then my XBOX freezes ... I have correctly set the time and date, cleared E:\Cache & deactivated IGR, but to no avail ... and I tried with two dashboards (Avalaunch & EvoX), but no luck ...

Any ideas what it might be?

I have a ver 1.6 XBOX with Alladin ModChip


I have the same problem, with Evolution X it says Kernel Version 1.00.4979.06, Xbox Hardware Info 00000032 A3 D4

Anyone know how to get it running?

Thanks Smile
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sikis




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 21:35    Post subject:
I also have the same problem. I have tried everything... Evil or Very Mad
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 21:50    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Could anyone answer this: Why can´t you paint the aftermarket-parts manufacturer decals? It´s seen in screenshots that it is possible.


dunno.

but when are we going to race?

and what handicaps should we be allowed to use? like the line-thingamajiggy should be out, yes? or should we go by no rules at all. all cars, all helps allowed? im going to test it tonight for awhile to see what options there is...

lets try it out during the day tomorrow or something. valborg tomorrow dammit, might be busy...

do you wanna host btw? and then we nforcers can have password for access.

but i warn you guys! i suck. Razz
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 22:10    Post subject:
mcmanic wrote:
level 10 now, still not upgraded anything yet, just using the cars that you win.
Game reminds me of rallisport challange for some reason, maybe the powerslides. Still its the best xbox racing game ever, but i still prefer GT4.


the menus gives me rallisport challenge 2 vibes!

dont know why people are complaing about menus in reviews and stuff? i think its prefectly clear where to go and what to do. looks nice. and now it sounds nice as well, after uploading custom soundtrack that is. Smile
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jonels
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 22:57    Post subject:
ok now i'm over my paddy about the graphics, i can say that the game plays really nice which is the main thing and the graphics are pretty nice considering.. i hope thers a bit more variety than what i have seen so far, like a bit of rally,snow/ice.. ect ect


I looked up "gormless" in the dictionary, it said "without gorm" .... so i looked up "gorm" but it wasn't there ????
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 23:00    Post subject:
jonels wrote:
ok now i'm over my paddy about the graphics, i can say that the game plays really nice which is the main thing and the graphics are pretty nice considering.. i hope thers a bit more variety than what i have seen so far, like a bit of rally,snow/ice.. ect ect


no rally. no snow. not even rain. BUT, there is hill races, flat races, city races, night, day, real, fiction, speedway, and so on. pretty good variety.
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jonels
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Apr 2005 23:05    Post subject:
thnks for the info... no rain ? .. man


I looked up "gormless" in the dictionary, it said "without gorm" .... so i looked up "gorm" but it wasn't there ????
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:05    Post subject:
I think all helps OFF.
And about what cars...well, why not take our finest car and show it off? Very Happy
We don´t have to be so competitive Smile I can host, sure. And yes, a there will be a pw.


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Jere2k




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:28    Post subject:
BossmanCG wrote:
I'm having problems starting the game from HDD ... I get a black screen and then my XBOX freezes ... I have correctly set the time and date, cleared E:\Cache & deactivated IGR, but to no avail ... and I tried with two dashboards (Avalaunch & EvoX), but no luck ...

Any ideas what it might be?

I have a ver 1.6 XBOX with Alladin ModChip

Actually i have the same problem, and i thought it was some kind of HDD bug, but the same thing happens when booting from a disc.
And it's only this game that does that, every other game i tried has worked fine, and i've tried a lot of games Smile
Tried some different bios and settings with no luck, it's wierd that only a few experience this problem?
Anyone got a solution?
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sikis




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:40    Post subject:
Jere2k wich chip do you have ?
It seems that many of us have alladin
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ApoJapo




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:40    Post subject:
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=489743

new review, if you read the review its a bit strange he gives a 8.5
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Jere2k




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:43    Post subject:
sikis wrote:
Jere2k wich chip do you have ?
It seems that many of us have alladin

Got a SmartXX and i tried with some old bios from last summer and the newest on their website without any luck, so it doesn't seem to be the chip?
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kintama




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:45    Post subject:
The game is pretty good, but the music is terrible.
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sikis




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 00:52    Post subject:
Jere2k wrote:
Got a SmartXX and i tried with some old bios from last summer and the newest on their website without any luck, so it doesn't seem to be the chip?


Okey

i burned the game on a dvd and tested it on a friends box and it worked, then i put the dvd in my box and i did'nt start..
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DethZero




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 01:39    Post subject:
Anyone else notices the skinny compressed cars? Its like they're not wide enough.


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kintama




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DethZero




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 04:25    Post subject:
I guess it does have something to do with the PAL output, because even the speed dial looks like an egg and its a nice circle on the screenshots. Hmmm. I'll have to wait for the US release and compare.

The cars on screenshots I've seen didnt seem this thin as well.


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TGD




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 05:17    Post subject:
sjoerf wrote:
This is the best looking racing game on the xbox. Gt4 doesn't even come close, not even in it's semi 1080i mode.

Have any of you guys complaining about the graphics even played this game????


I feel the same bro..i played GT4 to death as well. The Cars, Tracks,etc are much better in Forza then what GT4 has to offer.

Honestly..this game overall is much better then GT4.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 06:29    Post subject:
Saying that GT4 doesn't even come close is the most retarded fanboy post I have seen in quite some time.
Do you even know the meaning of "not even close"?
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