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 Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 15:20 Post subject: |
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K just finished the game. About 12 hours, and it was epic. Gonna start a few more playthrough with a diff char, making some other choices.
Looking forward to more expansions.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 15:52 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 16:04 Post subject: |
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| Zed03 wrote: | | Mussolinka wrote: | | You can play it like every other steamworks game using bogus steamappid.dll and specific appid |
His question is how to do you play it coop, not how do you start it |
Can anyone describe how to do this?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 16:21 Post subject: |
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| Aeternum wrote: | | Was anyone able to find the Boris fellow for the "The Widow's Revenge" quest? Log says he can be found in a camp outside of town but I cant find him. |
Select the quest to have it tracked, then press R and follow the dots.
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Shinin
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:18 Post subject: |
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It's actually a pretty decent game so far though with a few flaws as pointed out, controls for one thing are problematic and sluggish and it is a rather linear progression, also plays like a streamlined Neverwinter Nights 2 more than it does Dungeon Siege. 
(Choices and decisions, strong focus on story and in-game lore, companions and influence with them with several possible endings depending on how you decide to go about the various choices presented.)
Fun boss fights also if it weren't for the controls again and overall it's pretty simplistic (Just hack trough everything with little regard to companion behavior, skills and enemy opposition - just manage health and mana/focus "orb" drops and maintain your equipment by upgrading to new items as they are found - HUD is also a bit cumbersome with all the menus but there is quick keys to the more useful areas.)
Many references to DS1 and some to DS2 also even early in the game, even a crypt for the farmgirl (Seems that's been made canon now then, hah) and her struggle those 250 or so years ago.
EDIT: I do miss the more open exploration in the past Dungeon Siege games but they do could have you follow a fully linear path but you'd miss a lot of extras that way or alternate routes through certain areas, large range of equipment and of course the possible spells are also noticeable absent in favor of these four pre-set avatars. 
(Level design is pretty well done in this game but it was also rather good in the other two DS games with varied environments and creatures, speaking of that they do follow the same pattern to ram every single room and area full of hostile beings but here in this game they can now respawn and do so pretty quickly.)
Gas Powered did try a more focused experience not quite unlike this in their earlier effort (This being Obsidian now however and not the original Gas Powered Games team.) known as Space Siege which didn't fare that well due to also rather simple game mechanics and various other complaints.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:25 Post subject: |
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Yeah it would have worked better without that 54.99 Euro type price though that goes for nearly any game these days, yet prices are increasing with over 100 (Though in USD) for some editions of certain games with 60$ and higher now being rather standardized.
(Early on certain games and platforms were of course equally expensive if not worse like say SNES when it launched but then prices dropped as the market changed and other platforms came and went though now it's rising again plus they're adding micro-transactions or mini-DLC on-top of that.)
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:29 Post subject: |
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The game gets a lot harder further in, Azunite Lieutenants will make you throw the controller. >_>
Just started a new playthrough with Katarina. Seems weaker than Lucas was early in the game, but im guessing i'll start 1shootting people as soon as i stack more agi items.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:29 Post subject: |
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The way I see this; DS3 is to DS1/2, that Dark Alliance was to Shadows of Amn. It's the console version of an old PC classic.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:35 Post subject: |
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Hm, so it has a (good?) story, lore and choices? I can overlook a simplistic combat system and camera fuckups if those are really present. Tempting.
edit: with "those" I refer to lore/choices and such.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:39 Post subject: |
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It's like several other of their projects, Obsidian tries but have to meet demands from publisher and what else plus it has to sell and they're doing several projects at once.
Interesting way to run that company, seems they're doing OK if a bit messy, Alpha Protocol could have given them their own franchise but they messed that up pretty badly due to poor testing and I guess it was also a bit rushed. 
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EDIT: Still I assume most development studios try to do their best given the time and budget possible but it has to sell and be popular in order to secure further financing and that means certain cuts or changes I guess.
(Which can be a bit difficult, Jowood was supposedly pretty difficult to work with as a publisher company and larger studios can also likely be problematic and require it be rushed out before it can be fully finalized and tested.)
I wouldn't know though obviously but with big corporations like EA and Activision sort of holding a large part of the market and dominating sales figures by name alone it must be very harsh competition at times forcing poor release windows (Holiday sales chaos and all that.) for other smaller branches.
With multi-million investments you can't do PC exclusives that well either compared to console ones were you have Sony and MS backing the project directly (Assuming they're interested enough I guess.) so anyway what I mean is that things have changed a lot from the shareware and early gaming era.
EDIT: Anyway it's a good effort of Obsidian though the PC version do feel a bit console oriented still due to the previously mentioned design decisions and what else there might be, a patch or two would be welcome but who knows how the game will turn out.
(Fallout New Vegas being highly problematic as of 1.3 with tons of well known but totally ignored bugs having to be fixed by fans, KOTOR2 patched together by indie teams and projects like Alpha Protocol abandoned due to publisher disagreements, haha, well whatever it might be clunky but at least it works, most of the time anyway.)
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:44 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | Hm, so it has a (good?) story, lore and choices? I can overlook a simplistic combat system and camera fuckups if those are really present. Tempting.
edit: with "those" I refer to lore/choices and such. |
Tons of lore and backstory, though I can't really speak for "choices" just yet. Most of the time it's standard quest fare.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:50 Post subject: |
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Since the universe has ruined my planned Deus Ex play, I guess I'll give this one a whirl.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:53 Post subject: |
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So how is this compared to DS1? I heard this is poop.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:57 Post subject: |
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Read the huge post with screens four posts above yours.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:24 Post subject: |
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Tried to install the game w/ autorun.. A gui came up asked what directory to install, i installed to program files x86, then it started to install w/ this funky music. It installed and a msg from Reloaded came up. There was no official game installer. Now, I cant find where it installed. All i see is installation files in APP data w/ no executables. Any help?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:49 Post subject: |
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So, to those who apparently enjoy the game so far, which character did you choose ?
When I tried the demo with the archon it seemed pretty damn boring.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:52 Post subject: |
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Katarina, the markswoman, and she's awesome --- just make sure you really level her magic shield ability as it will save your life.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:05 Post subject: |
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They're all fun to play, except for the indian mage, reinhart. He blows.
I had most fun with Lucas tho. Lifesteal 2 hander + active heal w/ vampiric proficiency and blade dash ftw.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:12 Post subject: |
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What's wrong with Reinhard? Was gonna start over with him since the demon chick is kinda boring to play.
Although, if the game is just 12 hours long I might as well finish it, I'm 6 hours in...
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:20 Post subject: |
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I heard it has local co-op, as in two players on one computer... how does that work, when one wants to go to the inventory or character screen or what not?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:50 Post subject: |
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The one thing I hate is that we can have only ONE companion active at any given moment. Is there any way to bypass this?
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:01 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Yeah, I'm happy to admit my earlier reservations were a little bit too harsh. I've always been a lover of Snowblind-engine aRPGs -- and this falls pretty much perfectly into that mould. I originally disliked it due to the name, basically, but I sat down to play last night --- and suddenly it was 9 hours later and I realised I'm having an enormous amount of fun. I'm going to buy this, though I'll wait for the price to drop a bit because €50+ is just too much.
The default controls are hideous (sorry, but they are, I just cannot get used to them) but playing with a 360 controller is great - exactly how it was (sadly) meant to be. The visuals are far from poor and the voice acting is excellent.
.... Katarina is massively OP though  |
I'm with you Sabin. I am enjoying this alot more then I thought I would. |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:02 Post subject: |
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Hopefully modding will fix that, but yeah... it's really annoying. DS1 had a party size of eight, DS2 had a party size of six, DS3 has a party size of TWO -- if that's not a saddening example of "streamlining" I don't know what is.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:04 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Hopefully modding will fix that, but yeah... it's really annoying. DS1 had a party size of eight, DS2 had a party size of six, DS3 has a party size of TWO -- if that's not a saddening example of "streamlining" I don't know what is. |
Even two is too hard to keep track of when you just want to focus on your one character like in Diablo or WoW!  |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:40 Post subject: |
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Does the game work with controllers other than 360? I have a Logitech F510...
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:46 Post subject: |
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Just finished it. Man this game was great fun. Epic boss fights, and great ending. Really unexpected for a broken DS follow up.
Just make sure you use a gamepad, or you'll be fighting the controls.
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