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Frant
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 16:09    Post subject:
There will ALWAYS be a bottleneck. Modular systems created for a wide variety of hardware cannot be perfectly balanced to reach the ultimate performance. It's basically the nerd-version of chasing the dragon. Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 16:20    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
human_steel wrote:
He's talking about SB-E on the 2011 socket. This is the extreme line-up of Intel processors (for workstations and servers alike) - Core i7-3960X, Core i7-3930X and Core i7-3820. It'll be putting 1366 into oblivion...

I am looking at these. But so far too expensive. When one that I am comfortable with is out, I will probably move, thus skipping the 1156 fiasco altogether (1366 now).

The prices have always been circling around $1000-600-300 for almost any new-born 3-tupled extreme line-ups by Intel. I guess the lowest of these, the 3820, would be selling just as much the 920 used to 3 years ago...
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 16:32    Post subject:
The 920/930 were never 1000$.
And these I consider much better than the 1156 alternatives, especially with overclocking.

The 1156 is just too bottlenecking and architecturally inferior. Its only purpose when it came out with the first generation of cheapo i7 and i5s was to kill AMD's lineup basically. For some reason Intel chose to stand with the inferior platform. Probably a lot cheaper to make, surprise surprise. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 16:37    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
The 920/930 were never 1000$.

I never said they were. What were the first three Nehalem chips in Nov.2008 that were priced around the prices I mentioned -> $300 for the 920, $600 for 940 and 960 (I think it was that model) was around $1K...
That's what I was trying to tell - Intel usually releases three extreme models of their new architecture in the beginning setting them prices around these three figures (like the new 3960, 3930 and 3820).
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 19:25    Post subject:
SB-E has a estimated TDP from 180w !


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 20:02    Post subject:
The extreme CPUs are also always shit.

The i7 965/975 extreme versions were terrible. Sure, relatively high clockspeeds and 8 logical cores, but in return you had a CPU that ran hotter than hell, while a 920 could reach the same clockspeeds just the same. To reach any clockspeed where the difference matters, you need LN2 anyway, so why pay triple the price?

@ h_s: The 960 was around $600; you might be confused with the hexacore Gulftowns (970/980X which were $900 and $1000 respectively)?


I myself had an EE 955 and while very powerful and a surprising amount of room for overclocking, I'll never run off an Extreme version again. It does run very hot even at "stock" speeds and they're just not worth the premium; my 955 would've cost $999, excluding the stupid 975X based motherboard I needed. My excuse for that one is that it was given to me by Intel along with one of their boards to put it on Razz

For those that want to know: EE 955 = Presler XE, or an "Extreme Pentium D" - so not an i7 or anything, this was 5.5 years ago. Dual Core w/ HT resulting in 4 logical cores, stock speed of 3.46 GHz (I got it as far as 3.9 before I ran into issues with the stock cooler). Slightly higher FSB (1066 vs the standard 800 in Presler), 130W TDP at stock settings. Insanely powerful back then, and I'm still using it in my fileserver today Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2011 20:13    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
@ h_s: The 960 was around $600; you might be confused with the hexacore Gulftowns (970/980X which were $900 and $1000 respectively)?

Yup, got confused with the 970/980X. Okay
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Aug 2011 19:10    Post subject:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4524/the-sandy-bridge-pentium-review-pentium-g850-g840-g620-g620t-tested

It's a review for the sandy-bridge-based pentiums, which I doubt anyone here cares about, but pay close attention to the stock cooler coming alongside with these. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Aug 2011 19:19    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:50    Post subject:
3DMARK VANTAGE/Performance/Physx ON

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I'm not familiar with the GPU score, is that ok ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:38    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 20:47    Post subject:
Lmao that board looks like it was designed by Razer


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 20:49    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 20:54    Post subject:
new ASUS Z68 GEN3 boards revealed www.tomshardware.com/news/z68-PCI-Express-3.0-mobo-pcie,13569.html

Releases this OCTOBER (woot....)...they better have fixed all troubles from othe rboards!

Now i'll wait for Ivy...


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 21:13    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Now i'll wait for Ivy...

Better wait for Haswell. If I were you, I'd wait for Skylake...
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 21:36    Post subject:
but i dun need CPU based GPU ^^;...how's that useful if i have an nvidia card? Oo


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2011 22:45    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/gigabyte-teases-near-final-g1.assasin-2-x79-motherboard/13773.html

One of the new X79 boards. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2011 14:55    Post subject:




Laughing

Anyway http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72337


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2011 16:20    Post subject:
It's a CPU line purely for professional work and not gaming as Interinactive's post shows pretty well.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2011 18:16    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
It's a CPU line purely for professional work and not gaming as Interinactive's post shows pretty well.


Nope it's a gaming platform too.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2011 18:19    Post subject:
The Core i7 3960X in a 3 or 4 core version would be excellent with a less big $ tag.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2011 18:34    Post subject:
The new CPU'S are all 8 cores but with 2 cores deactivated Sad

still 5ghz~ 6 core goodness on air. do want.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2011 22:11    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
human_steel wrote:
It's a CPU line purely for professional work and not gaming as Interinactive's post shows pretty well.


Nope it's a gaming platform too.


You'd be an idiot to buy said platform for it though. If you have money to waste I guess it doesn't matter. However, what's the point of spending all that extra cash when a 2500k/2600k build is allready way more then enough.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2011 23:08    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Slizza wrote:
human_steel wrote:
It's a CPU line purely for professional work and not gaming as Interinactive's post shows pretty well.


Nope it's a gaming platform too.


You'd be an idiot to buy said platform for it though. If you have money to waste I guess it doesn't matter. However, what's the point of spending all that extra cash when a 2500k/2600k build is allready way more then enough.

People who play video games often like to have the horse power.
By your logic we are all idiots for not just playing on PS3..


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2011 07:03    Post subject:
Horsepower you don't need. Sounds like a real pro necessity...


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2011 15:33    Post subject:
2500K is the best for gaming at the moment. Games doesnt benefit from HT at all, not to mention 6 cores. HT can just fuck up fps sometimes (needs to be turned off on 2600K in certain games).
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2011 17:05    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Slizza wrote:


Nope it's a gaming platform too.


You'd be an idiot to buy said platform for it though. If you have money to waste I guess it doesn't matter. However, what's the point of spending all that extra cash when a 2500k/2600k build is allready way more then enough.

People who play video games often like to have the horse power.
By your logic we are all idiots for not just playing on PS3..


I'm guessing you haven't seen the reviews. Clock per clock the new 2011 parts aren't any faster then the 2600K. Applications that can make use of the additional 2 cores benefit from it. However, there aren't any games that would benefit from that currently. Not to mention how expensive it is, and the huge power (Pentium 4 level) draw.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/14/intel_core_i73960x_sandy_bridge_e_processor_review

Yes, you'd be a fucking idiot to buy it for gaming.

For how expensive this new platform is, ones money might be better served investing in a dual xenon board instead unless you really needed the throughput of quad-channel DDR3.
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