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Frant
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2011 02:43 Post subject: |
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Abit late to the party, but that doesnt matter 
"Kingston HyperX 4 GB DDR3-1333" Link to dutch website about what ram
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b0se
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:15 Post subject: |
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| b0se wrote: | Okay so the new RAM, MOBO, and Proc are in,
As a motherboard I went for the MSI Z68A - GD65 (G3),
The RAM is CORSAIR XMS3 9-9-9-24 ( typical ) 1 x 4 GB
The bad thing is that I have the same values as with the old memory, the speeds are in the same range 8000-9000 Mb/s . |
AS long as you plug only one RAM it will remain where it's at.
Keep in mind your CPU has 4 Cores - more or less independent.
All four have to "funnel" their tasks/workload through a single Ram ..
hence "Singlle Channel"
The moment you plug a second RAM it will significantly impact your overall speed/performance.
/me used the word "hence"
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 23:18 Post subject: |
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Bose, trying changing your ram speed to 1600mhz in your BIOS and rerun the benchmark. If your RAM doesnt do 1600, try increasing the motherboard FSB speed to OC that ram a bit
Im glad I found this thread because I just ordered new ram last week which should arrive in the mail sometime this week! 
Im currently running on the ram that I used in my very first (AMD Phenom II) build from Nov 2009. Its a dual channel 4gb G.Skill kit 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 which currently retails for $33 on Newegg. Pretty awesome deal if you ask me. Overall the ram has been very solid. Here are my benchies with the g.skill kit:
The ram that is coming in the mail, oh man...Ive been wanting it for a while
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 00:09 Post subject: |
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| timechange01 wrote: | | try increasing the motherboard FSB speed to OC that ram a bit |
That's not recommendable. SB overclocking is mainly done by increasing the multiplier.
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b0se
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 00:27 Post subject: |
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| nonspin wrote: | | b0se wrote: | Okay so the new RAM, MOBO, and Proc are in,
As a motherboard I went for the MSI Z68A - GD65 (G3),
The RAM is CORSAIR XMS3 9-9-9-24 ( typical ) 1 x 4 GB
The bad thing is that I have the same values as with the old memory, the speeds are in the same range 8000-9000 Mb/s . |
AS long as you plug only one RAM it will remain where it's at.
Keep in mind your CPU has 4 Cores - more or less independent.
All four have to "funnel" their tasks/workload through a single Ram ..
hence "Singlle Channel"
The moment you plug a second RAM it will significantly impact your overall speed/performance.
/me used the word "hence"
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Dual-channel you say eh ?
I have another module, it's a Kingston memory module, 2GB in size and same CAS and MHz as the corsair xms3 one .
The question is, can you do dual channel with 2 different memory modules ?
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 00:33 Post subject: |
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Why didn't you buy a kit instead of a lonely module (or you're using your old memory), b0se? DDR3 is getting dirty cheap right now. A single 8GB kit is below $100 now...
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 00:42 Post subject: |
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8GB is overkill. 4GB (or 6GB if youre on triple channel) is enough for most situation especially if youre mainly gaming.
But yes dont mix and match ram, you should either have a kit or the exact same module for dual channel to avoid running into problems. My 4gb dual channel kit currently retails for $33 on newegg
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b0se
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 01:24 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | Why didn't you buy a kit instead of a lonely module (or you're using your old memory), b0se? DDR3 is getting dirty cheap right now. A single 8GB kit is below $100 now... |
Because I bought the proc, mobo and ram from one store, and that store had all the dual channel kits out of stock .
I'll get another one probably in 2 weeks if its still in stock.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 01:31 Post subject: |
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Just buy it from ebay man, youl save a ton of money. And sell the RAM that you end up not using
Also try to stay away from companies like Kingston, they are overpriced for what they can deliver the last I checked. Go with Mushkin, G.Skill or Corsair
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 03:50 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I have another module, it's a Kingston memory module, 2GB in size and same CAS and MHz as the corsair xms3 one .
The question is, can you do dual channel with 2 different memory modules ? |
Yes, you can. But, as human_steel already said, it's not recommendable.
If you'd use 2 different modules (1x 1600 - 1x 1333), BOTH will run at 1333.
.. and since everyone is OC'in the sh*t out of their boards the chance of running
into freeze-ups are quite good.
If you are unsure, look into the EVO's manual .. Chapter 2-6
Check the QVL (qualified vendors list).
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b0se
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 04:56 Post subject: |
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What if I keep both at 1600 MHz ?
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 09:53 Post subject: |
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Good thing none of you are reading, because you can't put a 4GB chip in a channel with a 2GB chip. b0se also says it has the exact same CAS latencies and speed as the 4GB chip, so what the fuck are you going on about it clocking down?
And even then, the loss from 1600 -> 1333 would have negligible unless you're a retard and actually put value into losing a few MB/s for gaming, where memory has virtually no impact these days (as it's all aimed at consoles). Taken from my hardware post: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/12
Please take note of how average/maximum FPS doesn't differ AT ALL from 1333 onwards until you get to extremely high speeds and low latencies. In heavier games the minimum FPS might go up by a frame, but that's it. Unless you fall into the category of heavy multitasking (which means actually needing 8GB RAM), worrying about running 1333 instead of 1600 is absolutely pointless.
So no b0se, you can't mix your 2GB and 4GB modules, regardless of their speeds. That said, DDR3 is so dirt cheap right now that you may as well just grab a second 4GB module. Yes, 8GB is overkill, but with these prices you're looking at making the choice between 20 or 25 Euros. There's offers here at most retailers with 16 GB (!) for < 90 EUR. A far cry from the 100 EUR I paid for my 4 GB exactly one year ago.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Sep 2011 21:11 Post subject: |
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Oops I didn't realize Bose was using 4gb module with 2gb one
Regarding total amount of memory, you dont want to go too high because itl cause OC instabilities. You have an i5 2500K which Im sure you will be overclocking
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2011 08:20 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Yes, 8GB is overkill |
I disagree. With 8GB you can safely disable the pagefile, and if you have an SSD as system disk you can disable superfetch, readyboost etc. as well and gain a nice bit of performance. And there are times when RAM usage will tip just over 4-5GB and the pagefile is swapping like crazy (and you don't want that pagefile on your SSD if you have 4GB or less).
And as you said, 8GB DDR3-kits are dirt cheap these days.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2011 08:37 Post subject: |
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If I put additional 4GB of ram of the same speed (1333Mhz) but from different manufacturer (or the same manufacturer, but different type - now I have Corsair XMS3, and I get Corsair Vengeance), will it have any impact on the stability of my system?
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2011 11:36 Post subject: |
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You might, depending on the timings. You'll have to make the Vengeance chip run at the XMS's higher latencies, so make sure you manually set the timings and clocks.
@ Frant: I have my pagefile disabled just the same. I don't use Windows for anything besides gaming anymore these days though, and I've never run into the 4GB wall so far. My Ubuntu still has a SWAP partition, but performance matters less on that for me, as I'll have the same shit open all day anyway
With these prices, it doesn't make much sense not to do it though. I've been considering picking up an extra 2x2GB myself as well just because it's so stupid cheap right now.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Sep 2011 21:43 Post subject: |
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Finally installed the new RAM yesterday. Got myself a 6gb Corsair Dominator GT 1600Mhz 7-7-7-20 triple channel kit for $80. Comparison of the size of my previous ram to the corsair:
The whole thing pops out pretty far which is why I had to get the tubing out of the way by redoing it:
The results so far arent too bad for 80$ RAM
Also scores a 7.9 in WEI
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Sep 2011 22:19 Post subject: |
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That is some nice looking ram
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Sep 2011 22:23 Post subject: |
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So those fans ontop of the ram, does that help in any way shape or form at all? Or is it pure bullshit fables that make you buy stuff?
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Sep 2011 22:34 Post subject: |
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The fan is mainly for bullshit I heard but I also heard RAM does get relatively hot once you start operating the sticks past 1.75V. Im running these at 1.80V at the moment. The fan came with the set so instead of just having it sit in my closet I decided to install it just in case for added protection against heat buildup.
My previous RAM was rated at 1.50V and I was running them at 1.65V which should be fine without a fan. The reason I have to run these Corsair sticks at 1.80V is because otherwise my overclocks become unstable. The Corsair RAM is rated 1.65V
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Sep 2011 22:59 Post subject: |
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But doesn't that negate all the water cooling that is suppose to help with noise as well? 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Sep 2011 23:38 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | But doesn't that negate all the water cooling that is suppose to help with noise as well? |
Because of the water cooling, I dont have much airflow in my rig. The RAM is the only component right now that is being air cooled which is why I decided to use the fan. The fan is actually not very loud since I have it hooked up to a fan controller. Overall the rig is still pretty silent
And I dont want to watercool the RAM because I wont be pushing the RAM much further and also it will significantly decrease my flow rate. I have one pump already working through a pretty long loop (Motherboard NB, Mosfet, 360 radiator, CPU block, GPU block 1, GPU Block 2)
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