well eve is on rage fire atm, on every mmorpg and eve forums,( not playing eve myself )
there are rumors eve isnt making profit, and thats why that new super expensive ingame shop opened.. might be same for why they are selling out to sonny, to avoid bankruptcy
well I wonder how many people now after all these years are buying game time with isk made in game... for more than one account? Had to get to this point sooner or later..
Buying PLEX with ISK creates no loss for them. Someone has to buy that PLEX in order to sell it in-game. Not to mention all the unused PLEX-es on markets and the ones being stashed away.
With this system they always have more money coming in from subscriptions than the amount actually used at any given time. It's basicly an officially sanctified gold-shop. Just that instead of getting your ISK straight for your RL money, you have to convert your bucks into gametime and then sell that.
Just when after all this time, I was thinking about trying the game, I hear all this bad talk about it.... Ah well I waited this long, no loss I suppose.
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I don't know about that, but since people have to spend real money in order to buy PLEX and then put it up for sale in game to get ISK, then it's basicly an official way to get kredit for your dollars/euros/whathaveyou. And they create a steady playerbase as a significant bonus. I'm sure they would lose at least a few players if they suddenly decided to terminate this program.
I'm suprised nobody else use this method.
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I don't know about that, but since people have to spend real money in order to buy PLEX and then put it up for sale in game to get ISK, then it's basicly an official way to get kredit for your dollars/euros/whathaveyou. And they create a steady playerbase as a significant bonus.
i guess its about how and where the real money is from then, and playerbase increase dont always mean better if the increase is full of corrupt mofo's
I don't know about that, but since people have to spend real money in order to buy PLEX and then put it up for sale in game to get ISK, then it's basicly an official way to get kredit for your dollars/euros/whathaveyou. And they create a steady playerbase as a significant bonus.
i guess its about how and where the real money is from then, and playerbase increase dont always mean better if the increase is full of corrupt mofo's
I don't know about that, but since people have to spend real money in order to buy PLEX and then put it up for sale in game to get ISK, then it's basicly an official way to get kredit for your dollars/euros/whathaveyou. And they create a steady playerbase as a significant bonus.
i guess its about how and where the real money is from then, and playerbase increase dont always mean better if the increase is full of corrupt mofo's
Ah come on! Pointless details.
idiots are not pointless details, they are scum of the earth...
Recently, a third-party Web site stated that they had received confidential information regarding a buyout of CCP by Sony Online Entertainment. I can confirm that neither Sony nor CCP are in such discussions, and CCP is and remains and independent company.
Straight from CCP. People are just trying to kick up an even bigger shitstorm.
well eve is on rage fire atm, on every mmorpg and eve forums,( not playing eve myself )
there are rumors eve isnt making profit, and thats why that new super expensive ingame shop opened.. might be same for why they are selling out to sonny, to avoid bankruptcy
if eve wasn't profitable, there wouldn't be enough cash to develop 2 AAA titles on the side, besides from the fact that subscription numbers are still on a rise. the only thing they obviously have neither time nor money for is finally fixing some major gameplay issues and expanding it.
well i wouldn't exactly call them being financially stable, considering they have a sizeable loan to pay back in october, bit off more than they can chew on the development side and while they aren't outright killing the goose that lays their golden eggs, they sure are poking holes in it to take a look.
I'm pretty sure Dust 514 will bomb being a PS3 exclusive title. Let's be serious for a moment. Does anyone think Dust will be a major success on only ps3 with competitors like BF3, CoD, MW and numerous other fps games being scheduled in the same timeframe. I don't think so. I think CCP made a serious blunder dropping the PC in favour of consoles for this title.
I don't know about that, but since people have to spend real money in order to buy PLEX and then put it up for sale in game to get ISK, then it's basicly an official way to get kredit for your dollars/euros/whathaveyou. And they create a steady playerbase as a significant bonus. I'm sure they would lose at least a few players if they suddenly decided to terminate this program.
I'm suprised nobody else use this method.
in anarchy online, you can buy token boards with paid points, which you can sell then for credits ingame.
quick question... I'm on a 14 day free trial. When it expires, can I get a buddy invite and continue for 21 days? Or do I have to start a subscription? Either way, I like the game and will play it for a few months anyway til something else takes me away.. Thanks, let me know.
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It is CCP‘s plan that the Noble Exchange (NeX store) will be used for the sale of vanity items only. There are no plans, and have been no plans, as per previous communication and CSM meetings, to introduce the sale of game breaking items or enhancements in the NeX store.
The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time. The CSM, under NDA, has been presented with CCP‘s plans for continued evolution of the business model and agrees that nothing they saw breaks this principle.
If anyone wants a 21 day trial instead of the standard 14 days one, drop me a line at baslaak@gmail.com and i will also answer all your questions about the game and give you some monetary support.
btw:
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Sylenced wrote:
Quite surprised of the DevBlog, I honestly expected some more horseshit
Still, their trust with the playerbase sank, badly.
Stop talking bullshit. I heard that they would only sell vanity items over a year ago. Some of you people see conspiracies behind every bush..
You can already legally buy anything you want with real currency, just buy PLEXes and sell them for ISK. Some of the vets complain but they allow it cause they can play for free.
Sooo...basically he says that the suits up-stairs took the motivations behind the concessions of the CSMs the wrong way and now it's time to show them again who's really boss. I'm all for it. Always loved EVE-drama. I'm not a regular user, subscribed once for 2 months and been using free-weeks they offer after big updates every now and then, but the stories that come out of the game always fascinated me, be it in-game scams or the riots resulting from the ineptitude of the higher-ups in the dev team.
He's a two faced cunt.
There he is saying they've reached an accord etc etc. And a few months later trying to stir up shit again, after ccp flew him and the csm panel to Iceland to negotiate this and explain whats going on.
Him and his alliance are whats wrong with Eve. Software development takes time, it takes time to iron out bugs, you don't just introduce new features and content in an mmo without a plan. Without it upsetting the ingame ecosystem.
software development takes even more time if you shove unnecessary content no one wants down the playerbase's throat. imagine the amount of (long overdue) bugfixes and features that could have been done if it wasn't for incarna (which again is now left in an unfinished state).
software development takes even more time if you shove unnecessary content no one wants down the playerbase's throat. imagine the amount of (long overdue) bugfixes and features that could have been done if it wasn't for incarna (which again is now left in an unfinished state).
Incarna has been something that the community has wanted for a long time, as usual with eve online it's a gradual deployment, later on you'll see such systems as corp owned establishments, gambling etc.
I would say that it's wrong to say that the entire community doesn't want incarna "walking in stations" quite a few have been complaining about the fact that Star Trek Online has this functionality and yet Eve-O doesn't. The captains quarters thats currently in the game was only in development for half a year before implemented.
Sure depending on your viewpoint thats half a year that could've been spent on improving fleet mechanics. But it's impossible to please everyone and also keep on making the game attractive at the same time, both for old and new players.
software development takes even more time if you shove unnecessary content no one wants down the playerbase's throat. imagine the amount of (long overdue) bugfixes and features that could have been done if it wasn't for incarna (which again is now left in an unfinished state).
Incarna has been something that the community has wanted for a long time, as usual with eve online it's a gradual deployment, later on you'll see such systems as corp owned establishments, gambling etc.
I would say that it's wrong to say that the entire community doesn't want incarna "walking in stations" quite a few have been complaining about the fact that Star Trek Online has this functionality and yet Eve-O doesn't. The captains quarters thats currently in the game was only in development for half a year before implemented.
Sure depending on your viewpoint thats half a year that could've been spent on improving fleet mechanics. But it's impossible to please everyone and also keep on making the game attractive at the same time, both for old and new players.
oh i completely agree with you, maybe i should have worded my post a bit differently.
the thing is that the whole content of incarna (apart from shiney new turrets who even fit on a dedicated missile platform, according to the login screen ) wasn't a station environment full of players doing their thing, but the minnmatar forever alone closet, now at least followed by 3 new forever alone closets. along with a bunch of overpriced, shitty clothes no one except a tiny fraction wants to buy.
IF ccp had at least continued on that course and tried to finish what they started ASAP, i'd be ok with it. winter expansion including full-fledged station establishments with all the bells and whistles, maybe coupled with re-introducing the old hangar with the option to leave your pod? sure, gimme gimme. but now they're doing what they do best, and that is behaving like an ADHD kid who lost his ritalin, putting out meaningless dev blogs, leaving incarna in an unfinished state and shifting focus to nullsec (which i'm kinda excited about if it gives me more options to fuck with people there), but is probably the worst decision if you want to enlarge the playerbase because let's face it, most new players shit their pants at the mere thought of going into null. nerf highsec along with it and they're taking and additional dump on the already dwindling playerbase there.
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I'm sure they would lose at least a few players if they suddenly decided to terminate this program.
