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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Sep 2011 23:50    Post subject:
fraich3 wrote:
Unauthorized wrote:
Vulgarr wrote:
Meh, who fucking cares as long as it prevents 95% of the cheating and shit. Can't stand hackers, esp. in a game like this with the lame ass cash auction house. Fuckers would kill their grandma with a spork for epik purplz so they can make a buck.




I don't fucking understand, don't you people play with friends only? I sure as shit dont play games like this with strangers. So "cheating" really is a non issue for me.

This online-only thing has like NOTHING to do with cheating issues, its all about preventing custom mods (DLC! DLC! DLC!) and pirating. Can bet your ass cheating will still be in it. WoW has it, have had for so long I've known.

Fuck this game in the butt, cashwhoring to the max! Me and at least 4 of my irl mates have all removed our preorders. I don't give a fuck if we are a minority or not.

I play with all my friends online.. I really only play games online with my buddies these days. 10-20% of my gaming time is on my own. And even if I did I still can, I just have to be online for it, which everybody is all the time anyways. (execpt for people who maybe travels to a summer house to play video games)

And I want to see the DLC marketing ploy from Blizzard before I jump that bandwagon.

The genius on Blizzard side, looking through the conspirators theories for a while, might be that they allow so many free ways to make you own mods/maps etc etc through their Starcraft 2 map editor, that they percieve an imagine that they don't want to shut that down for their games. It worked on me, I wanna se concrete evidence that Blizzard are limiting mod making, i.e the same way creative assembly are doing it, or at least trying to.

All in all, if the worst thing this game got going for it is that you have to be online, then that is a top 3 game of the year easily..


Regarding DLC!

My guess is Inventory/storage slots, vintage pets and other juseless junk that should be free. They have learned that shit like that sells in WoW. Not disputing the quality of the game itself. But I cant accept this direction they are taking personally.

And SC2 editor is awesome, If Diablo 3 had something like that, I would drop my fucking pride and buy it because its mods and custom maps that makes me do PC gaming!

Its funny how game companies tries to move away from that, since its mods and custom maps that make ideas for 50%(?) of all the new games that spawn on the market today. They are out of ideas, and this is their solution. Great! Let gaming die and be reborn for the future of our children! Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Sep 2011 23:51    Post subject:
Mikey5449 wrote:
Vulgarr wrote:
Meh, who fucking cares as long as it prevents 95% of the cheating and shit. Can't stand hackers, esp. in a game like this with the lame ass cash auction house. Fuckers would kill their grandma with a spork for epik purplz so they can make a buck.

I wish more of them would kill eachother so the breeding would stop.

i dont think killing the grandma would help much in that case
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Vulgarr




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Sep 2011 23:57    Post subject:
Unauthorized wrote:
Vulgarr wrote:
Meh, who fucking cares as long as it prevents 95% of the cheating and shit. Can't stand hackers, esp. in a game like this with the lame ass cash auction house. Fuckers would kill their grandma with a spork for epik purplz so they can make a buck.




I don't fucking understand, don't you people play with friends only? I sure as shit dont play games like this with strangers. So "cheating" really is a non issue for me.

This online-only thing has like NOTHING to do with cheating issues, its all about preventing custom mods (DLC! DLC! DLC!) and pirating. Can bet your ass cheating will still be in it. WoW has it, have had for so long I've known.

Fuck this game in the butt, cashwhoring to the max! Me and at least 4 of my irl mates have all removed our preorders. I don't give a fuck if we are a minority or not.

And fyi, Blizzard fanboys are the biggest cocksuckers on this planet. I'm surprised they haven't drowned in all that blizzcum

COME AT ME BRO!


Yea, I am in a clan and quite a few people will play, but I don't play with them all the time and there will probably be times when I just want to jump on and join a random game. As for cheating, it's prevalent in almost every game I've played. The exceptions being games that are very highly client/server based, like MMO's (not many cheaters, but some), League of Legends (never seen a cheater that I am aware of), etc.

And it's Blizzard, so they've embraced modding in SC2 and hopefully will do similar in D3. And why act so surprised about the online only thing? SC2 does it, you pretty much knew all Blizzard games were going to have it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Money talks.

But seriously, I'm just of the opinion that a game that is multiplayer focused doesn't bother me if it requires you to be online. Granted, D3 is not an online only game, but at least it's focus is on multi and this is not the shit that Ubisoft pulled with AC2, which was single player only, yet required constant internet connection.

I can see why people are frustrated with this move towards online requirements, but like I said, if it cuts down on cheating, and you can guarantee the cheating will be much less in this game than others, then I'm ok with it. I was going to buy it anyways, and honestly, I rarely ever get to play shit on LAN, as most of my friends live very far away.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 00:00    Post subject:
Unauthorized wrote:
Vulgarr wrote:
Meh, who fucking cares as long as it prevents 95% of the cheating and shit. Can't stand hackers, esp. in a game like this with the lame ass cash auction house. Fuckers would kill their grandma with a spork for epik purplz so they can make a buck.




I don't fucking understand, don't you people play with friends only? I sure as shit dont play games like this with strangers. So "cheating" really is a non issue for me.

This online-only thing has like NOTHING to do with cheating issues, its all about preventing custom mods (DLC! DLC! DLC!) and pirating. Can bet your ass cheating will still be in it. WoW has it, have had for so long I've known.

Fuck this game in the butt, cashwhoring to the max! Me and at least 4 of my irl mates have all removed our preorders. I don't give a fuck if we are a minority or not.

And fyi, Blizzard fanboys are the biggest cocksuckers on this planet. I'm surprised they haven't drowned in all that blizzcum

COME AT ME BRO!


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 00:00    Post subject:
its 2011, internet is nearly everywhere. Deal with it!
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frogster




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 00:03    Post subject:

My guess is Inventory/storage slots, vintage pets and other juseless junk that should be free.


last time i check, blizzie sold only show off items. mounts/pets.
nothing to gain against another player, like 20+ storage bags and items and shit like extra char slots.
i dont think they will begin that crap with diablo.

and i actually brough this from them in the past : Smile

http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000633
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000863
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000862
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001244

for toys, not for ingame pets.
my wife love them, and dont play wow. (she have a really big collection of this kind of creepy things.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 00:09    Post subject:
frogster wrote:

My guess is Inventory/storage slots, vintage pets and other juseless junk that should be free.


last time i check, blizzie sold only show off items. mounts/pets.
nothing to gain against another player, like 20+ storage bags and items and shit like extra char slots.
i dont think they will begin that crap with diablo.

and i actually brough this from them in the past : Smile

http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000633
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000863
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000862
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001244

for toys, not for ingame pets.
my wife love them, and dont play wow. (she have a really big collection of this kind of creepy things.)


Since when is shit like that (pets and such) something that we should pay money for? There is people out here that will do that for free! Just to share, to spread custom content to other people! I'm one of them.

"But they have to earn money somehow" - someone may ask.

If they DID not go this ONLINE ALWAYS route they would have next to zero additional costs after game release, nullifying that argument! PC gaming have for me been all about custom content. Removing that, and you remove the SOUL of PC GAMING imo. Look at the people working at todays biggest studios, they are almost all from old pc gaming days! People who made mods, created custom content back in the days.

Then other people joined the "gamemaking" and took their "ABC how to earn money" from their other VD jobs and made this standard to gaming also. Earn. Money. NOW!

Just rename it PCBOX360 and we are done.


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frogster




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 00:15    Post subject:
you should pay for ?
why ?
they are forcing you to get a diablo 3/whatever useless minipet/mount ?
you canot stand people who have one, and you feel inferior to them ?


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 01:55    Post subject:
people who still bitch about mods , show me those d1 and d2 mods please lol ...
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locke89




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 03:01    Post subject:
D2 has some awesome mods, MedianXL being the prime example. Not thatI give a shit about lack of mod capabilities in D3, just saying...
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 05:51    Post subject:
Unauthorized wrote:
I don't fucking understand, don't you people play with friends only? I sure as shit dont play games like this with strangers. So "cheating" really is a non issue for me.

This online-only thing has like NOTHING to do with cheating issues, its all about preventing custom mods (DLC! DLC! DLC!) and pirating. Can bet your ass cheating will still be in it. WoW has it, have had for so long I've known.

Fuck this game in the butt, cashwhoring to the max! Me and at least 4 of my irl mates have all removed our preorders. I don't give a fuck if we are a minority or not.

And fyi, Blizzard fanboys are the biggest cocksuckers on this planet. I'm surprised they haven't drowned in all that blizzcum

COME AT ME BRO!


Yes, look at me completely blowing your mind and making all that text useless.

They won't hack d3, and if they do the best will be a bot of some sorts/speed hacks or teleport hacks.

Diablo 2 - mass hacks, dupes, etc (because it was offline and client-based game, not server-based)

Look at WoW. Old game, low security level. Has it been hacked? Bots, speed hacks, teleport hacks. Any Dupe hacks? You know stuff that actually matters in WoW or Diablo? Nope

Now take Diablo 3. New game, high security level.

Do you really think you'll see dupes? Or people with speed hacks/bots not getting banned? Then you're a major :deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp:.
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W123




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 05:52    Post subject:
I never enjoyed any mods for D2, but The Hell mod for D1 is quite good and am actually currently playing it
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 06:28    Post subject:
So, to play this game you need pay only ONE time? and play forever?


I used to be a knee like you. Then I took an adventurer in the arrow.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 06:30    Post subject:
Yes.. there will be expansion pack(s) though of course
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NeHoMaR




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 06:50    Post subject:
Really? well, like a pirate I am, is hard to say: I will buy this thing.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 08:36    Post subject:
locke89 wrote:
D2 has some awesome mods, MedianXL being the prime example. Not thatI give a shit about lack of mod capabilities in D3, just saying...


yeah but neither d1 or d2 came with mod tools or anything and neither will d3, thats what i dont understand (why people bitch about that).
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:18    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:

yeah but neither d1 or d2 came with mod tools or anything and neither will d3, thats what i dont understand (why people bitch about that).


The difference (and it's a crucial one) is that you NEED battle.net servers to play. How do you think the server will respond if a game with modified files is trying to connect? Flat out refuse the connection in the best case - ban the account in the worst.

It's true that no modding support was available for D2 - it just makes what the community has created even more awesome. None of that will be possible in D3 thanks to the always online bullshit.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:21    Post subject:
well, for me it remains the same, people try to find a reason to bash the game, or better, blizzard and since the game itself seems to be untouchable (from what we have seen so far) they go for anything possible, even tho 99.99% of the rest of us simply dont care Smile
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inz




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:30    Post subject:
Yeah it's an understandable (albeit sad) stance on everything really - if it doesn't affect me directly, hey what do I care?

I would like to think more than 0.01% of Diablo fans were interested in modding tho. Razz
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frogster




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:30    Post subject:
The difference (and it's a crucial one) is that you NEED battle.net servers to play.

maybe they will allow custom games/modes to be created.
like dota (wich was already in client, probably obsolete), like tower defense mods for sc2 and so.
with a good editor, posibilties are unlimited.
who the hell was thinking you can make a fps from sc2 ? or an arcade game ?
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:32    Post subject:
Maybe once that would've been a reasonable expectation. But it's Activision Blizzard now, so I wouldn't hold my breath...
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:41    Post subject:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71383


and people can drop the "activision" crap, blizzard is independant inside "activision blizzard"
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inz




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 09:48    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:

and people can drop the "activision" crap, blizzard is independant inside "activision blizzard"


Yeah, it's of course possible that Activision's evil moneygrubbing ways have just rubbed off on Blizzard and they're making those decisions completely on their own. Very Happy

Not that I would ever truly criticize them for it, hell if people are stupid enough to pay 20+ dollars for some flying horse in WoW, milk them for all their worth I say. It's just a pity that most publishers view modding as a hindrance to DLC sales and go as far as actively trying to prohibit it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2011 10:10    Post subject:
well, its not blizzards fault that people pay real money for vanity pets and mounts, but they dont sell aything that would give you an advantage of any kind over other players, so its neither evil nor bad.

evil is "yeah, you dont have to buy it, but if you want to be competitive, you should ^^"
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 14:34    Post subject:
dont remeber being posted , sorry if i'm mistaking.

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/news/?d=2011-9#140956


Sep 14, 2011 PayPal for Diablo III and Battle.net

We're pleased to announce that in most regions, PayPal will be our payment-service partner for the Diablo III auction house, allowing players who trade with real-world currency the ability to cash out the spoils of their battle-torn adventures via a PayPal account.

PayPal will also soon be added in several regions as a payment option on Battle.net, providing another convenient and secure payment method for digital purchases of Blizzard products and services.

We’ll share region-related specifics, as well as further details on everything mentioned above, in the near future. Stay tuned!
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 17:48    Post subject:
Yay now blizzard takes a cut when you do the auction transaction, and paypal takes a cut when you withdraw the money!

Wheee!
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 18:14    Post subject:
Haters gonna hate. That meme was never more fitting than to videogamers.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 18:15    Post subject:
Man i was just gonna play some diablo II with widescreen resolution mod. Too bad game wont start in fullscreen/windowed with DirectDraw2D only 3D accelerated works, and it looks like shit + major graphics bugs ;/
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 18:15    Post subject:
Zed03 wrote:
Yay now blizzard takes a cut when you do the auction transaction, and paypal takes a cut when you withdraw the money!

Wheee!


now?they said they will take cut from every placed item on ah, and placing item on paid ah will cost real money, so you cant spamm random shit there

but not everyone have braincells to process that
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frogster




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2011 18:19    Post subject:
you will have a free listing or something per week.


Yay now blizzard takes a cut when you do the auction transaction, and paypal takes a cut when you withdraw the money!


i would complain if you actually will lose money in there.

free listing -> profit. no matter how much they cut you.
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