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mvp




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 10:44    Post subject:
leemanchester wrote:
press conferences are screwed anyway...total waste of time and totally suicidal if you do let your asst manager do them.
Mvp- have you properly tried any of the fifa manager games before?


No not really. I have tried a few of them, but ended up uninstalling after just a few minuttes. I expect to try the 2012 edition as well, but i fear the result will be the same.

Im so used to Football Manager, that Fifa just seems too much like a sims football edition, with your family and stuff.

Yea press conferences suck.. i had hoped they would improve, but not this year. I seem to remember SI saying that press conferences pretty much was the same in RL as well, and while they are correct, there has to be some way of improving it.
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leemanchester




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 11:10    Post subject:
i havent tried the fm12 demo,prefer to wait for the full game.i was really hoping for a full overhaul of the press conferences but it seems not then if youve tried it.
pls tell me the player chat system has improved.it was so basic and annoying getting the same answers off your players.
is the transfer system the same as last years? as in dealing with the agents in real time?


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BlackS0ull




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 11:45    Post subject: pre-orders
Hello,
Does anyone some good deals for this game, I mean some web-site where to buy it and also to be sure that you will receive the key Smile

I saw a good price on INTkeys but I'm not sure about this site. Do you have also other options?

Thanks in advance!
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mvp




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 12:00    Post subject:
leemanchester wrote:
i havent tried the fm12 demo,prefer to wait for the full game.i was really hoping for a full overhaul of the press conferences but it seems not then if youve tried it.
pls tell me the player chat system has improved.it was so basic and annoying getting the same answers off your players.
is the transfer system the same as last years? as in dealing with the agents in real time?


From what i can tell the press conference system is the same, but i didnt spend a lot of time on it in my first game, and the second was, as mentioned, a test game.

Didnt get around to indivudual player chat either, but from what i've read that has been improved.
However you can call teammeetings to improve morale, and ask you players if they have something to say, or ask your captain to adress the team. Thast a neat feature.

Player negotiations have a very nice new feature, where you can lock ie. weekly wage. Lets say a player wants 8000eur, but you can only afford 7000eur, you can lock that, so the agent will start negotiating other bonuses, perhaps goal bonus, if its a striker, should they demand too much there, you can lock that as well, and the agent will start with different bonus, loyality bonus perhaps...... that feature have given me a few signings. Of course you have to be realistic, you cant offer him 1000eur and expect him to start negotiating bonuses, that will just end the negotiations.
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leemanchester




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 13:52    Post subject:
thx for that mvp...like the idea of the improved player deals,that was was a pain in the butt to keep having to renegotiate the same terms again and again.
cant wait for friday now Smile


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mvp




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 14:21    Post subject:
You are welcome.
Yea same here, it opens up new possibilities regarding player signings. Not long till fridag 2½ day to go here Smile

Am wondering what team will be my fist, im concidering starting unemplyed with all leagues, then accept the first job offer i get, and removing most of the leagues, (also a neat new feature) so my laptop wont die.
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leemanchester




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 15:22    Post subject:
ive never tried the unemployment option..always picked a league two side from england.
i dont fully understand the removal/adding of leagues etc.how would this work regarding job offers?
i take it you must have the league running to be offered a job there,so if thats the case..why would you add a new league or remove one...is it just to give the option and thats it??


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no9999




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 15:39    Post subject:
leemanchester wrote:
ive never tried the unemployment option..always picked a league two side from england.
i dont fully understand the removal/adding of leagues etc.how would this work regarding job offers?
i take it you must have the league running to be offered a job there,so if thats the case..why would you add a new league or remove one...is it just to give the option and thats it??

I usually only select the countries i would want to play in as a manager.
(Netherlands,Germany,Spain,Italy,England).

However i also allow it to run a couple of other countries in the background Very Happy
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mvp




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 16:50    Post subject:
leemanchester wrote:
ive never tried the unemployment option..always picked a league two side from england.
i dont fully understand the removal/adding of leagues etc.how would this work regarding job offers?
i take it you must have the league running to be offered a job there,so if thats the case..why would you add a new league or remove one...is it just to give the option and thats it??


Im not really sure how it will work, i hope you are able to accept job offers from any league, if the club are willing to wait untill next season to hire you - because you cant add/remove leagues during a season.

Of course if you should get fired from your club, and unable to get a new one, you can add more leagues for more oppotunities, and then remove them again.

All this talk made me fire up fm2011, and start a new campaign Smile
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 17:04    Post subject:
leemanchester wrote:
ive never tried the unemployment option..always picked a league two side from england.
i dont fully understand the removal/adding of leagues etc.how would this work regarding job offers?
i take it you must have the league running to be offered a job there,so if thats the case..why would you add a new league or remove one...is it just to give the option and thats it??


Lets say you are playing Greek league. For first couple of seasons you are doing great, but you want to move to bigger league so just enable Italian and Spanish leagues. You get an offer from Italian league and move there. Then you can disable Greek and Spanish league.

Now if you have a super comp, you can have a lot of leagues enabled from the start and you don't need to bother with this, but I think this option will prove very useful for anyone with mid range to low end machines.
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 18:03    Post subject:
leemanchester wrote:
ah ok mvp,i thought you meant you were getting yr asst manager to do everything for you.i didnt realise you did NOTHING but just press continue.
to be fair,i have played them all going way back to the original CM series on the amiga and i must say that with each year,for me,it does appear to be getting easier.
for example,i want to start with my team,man city,but i know it would be too easy so i force myself to start in the lower leagues.
this year i will make an attempt to try out fifa manager 12.


A fellow city fan Smile

The last few years it has been quite boring being city, at least boring after a few seasons, I never play more than 3-4.

It was really fun back when Vassell was at city, he was a BEAST, not statwise, but his pace made him an incredible effective striker. Barton and Reyna as boss midfielders. Good times.
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leemanchester




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 19:10    Post subject:
my fave will always be CM 01/02 for the amount of hours put into it despite lack of gfx...after that FM07 was pure class too.
dont get me wrong i do love the new FM's but they dont seem to grab me as much as the older ones.


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Imoen




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 21:30    Post subject:
Hard to remember them all, but I think I particulary enjoyed the older ones(cm), and fm 07 - because of a skin which was insanely good looking.

Ah well fm12 will do quite a good job I reckon, but it will never be the same as earlier. Maybe its just because the game changes so little over the years and its basically the same, so you are bound to not enjoy it as much.

The cheapest I've seen it for is 30 dollars, any better offers out there ?
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 21:59    Post subject:
Old CMs before CM 4 were the best for me also. With CM 4 came new game engine and It took them a long time to perfect match engine and iron out some serious bugs, so I lost interest in them for a while.
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mvp




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 23:01    Post subject:
I like most of the new features in the newer FM games, but for some reason the cm/beginning of fm was the games i have spend the most time on
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leemanchester




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2011 23:08    Post subject:
ok,i tried out Fifa Manager 12 and just cant get into it at all.im just seeing things as gimmicky and pointless.Yes,it looks the part and maybe more "alive" than FM but its not for me.
maybe its too many years being addicted to CM/FM and the way the game works that is stopping me from getting into fifa manager.


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Peef




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 08:07    Post subject:
I'm having the same issue each year, I always try Fifa Manager, and I do like some of their extra concepts, but it's way overkill and seems 'fake'

I always uninstall it right away and get on with FM Very Happy
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dr-nix




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 08:48    Post subject:
mvp wrote:
I like most of the new features in the newer FM games, but for some reason the cm/beginning of fm was the games i have spend the most time on


I can only speak for myself but i also played CM/FM alot more during the end of the CM-age and in the begining of FM. But for me that is 100% tied to the fact that i've now ended my long unenployment period and have a job and therefore have alot less time to spend on the game.

You grow up and as a sideeffect life takes over in various ways reducing the time you have to spend on stuff like FM for example.

FM is getting better and better but i hope they fix the youth development in FM12. As a Swede i play mostly in Sweden and in an attemt to balance the game now that the leagues have dynamic reputations they have messed with the youth development (the newgens). Basically if you play a longer game the Swedish players turn to crap after a while and you are forced to use imports to stay competetive. It's very unrealistic.


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Peef




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 17:54    Post subject:
[quote="dr-nix"]
mvp wrote:

FM is getting better and better but i hope they fix the youth development in FM12. As a Swede i play mostly in Sweden and in an attemt to balance the game now that the leagues have dynamic reputations they have messed with the youth development (the newgens). Basically if you play a longer game the Swedish players turn to crap after a while and you are forced to use imports to stay competetive. It's very unrealistic.


unfortunately there are many countries affected like that

there also seems to be more defenders in england, strikers in argentina ...

they did make a bit issue out of it, and have said the regen system would be reworked completely, can't wait Smile
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 00:28    Post subject:
Just waiting on my Steam key that I got for £19.00 a few weeks back Wink Nearly ready to go Smile
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dazzawoo




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 00:38    Post subject:
i saw the game on some spanish website not sure if its legit though
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 01:36    Post subject:
[quote="Peef"]
dr-nix wrote:
mvp wrote:

FM is getting better and better but i hope they fix the youth development in FM12. As a Swede i play mostly in Sweden and in an attemt to balance the game now that the leagues have dynamic reputations they have messed with the youth development (the newgens). Basically if you play a longer game the Swedish players turn to crap after a while and you are forced to use imports to stay competetive. It's very unrealistic.


unfortunately there are many countries affected like that

there also seems to be more defenders in england, strikers in argentina ...

they did make a bit issue out of it, and have said the regen system would be reworked completely, can't wait Smile


They are remaking regen system in this version already? Any details on how it'll work?
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Venn




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 03:05    Post subject:
I. Must. Resist. Playing. This.
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Peef




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 08:21    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
They are remaking regen system in this version already? Any details on how it'll work?


yea, quick lookup:

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/blogs.aspx?CIaBEID=2521

sums it about up Smile
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Peef




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 15:42    Post subject:
seems to take long until the warez version is released though
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:26    Post subject:
Peef wrote:
seems to take long until the warez version is released though

Well still 8+ hrs left according to Steam.
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Peef




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:26    Post subject:
*cry* Smile
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 19:38    Post subject:
Just got my key. Time to see if it will pre-load Smile

**Edit**

Yup, pre-loading nicely Very Happy

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bart89




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 21:23    Post subject:
You really want to piss us off, don't you? Smile
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demde




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 21:25    Post subject:
Well its still a damn preload. Tomorrow we all will have files and crack.
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