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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:16 Post subject: |
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Don't think either BF or CoD are particularly good games, they both have many and different weaknesses, but it's kinda funny to see how BF players somehow think 'their' game requires more skill. In BF chance and luck actually plays a much bigger role because of a higher number of players and all the explosive and vehicle stuff, and camping, launchers-on-people, sniper-teams, etc. are all regular occurrences even with dedicated servers.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:17 Post subject: |
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| sausje wrote: | | Meh, i know anyway, that if i would fully focus on either game, i would kick the shit out of all of your asses ^^ MW3 or BF3, BRING IT ON BIATCHES! |
Yes, I've seen similar promises from you for a while now.
Not long until we find out how accurate those are... 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:21 Post subject: |
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@garus, how did you find my childhood picture? 
@tonizito, lol BF3 pubs are easy compared to actual CoD clanwars. Atleast that's my observation from the beta play i did.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:34 Post subject: |
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| sausje wrote: | | @garus, how did you find my childhood picture? |
I shot it like 5 minutes ago and sent it to him.   |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:36 Post subject: |
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And what were you doing sneaking up on sauce in his own home?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:39 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | And what were you doing sneaking up on sauce in his own home? |
Doctor iSatan is out and about. 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:39 Post subject: |
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Looking for Rofl_Mao to "phile" him up if you know what I mean
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:50 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Looking for Rofl_Mao to "phile" him up if you know what I mean |
No apple user gets into my house! 
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:57 Post subject: |
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| Raap wrote: | | Don't think either BF or CoD are particularly good games, they both have many and different weaknesses, but it's kinda funny to see how BF players somehow think 'their' game requires more skill. In BF chance and luck actually plays a much bigger role because of a higher number of players and all the explosive and vehicle stuff, and camping, launchers-on-people, sniper-teams, etc. are all regular occurrences even with dedicated servers. |
The difference as I see it is that in CoD you need better twitch reflexes whereas in BF3 you need to play more intelligently. There's simply more options in BF3 and more strategies to exploit. In CoD it's more limited and all you really need is a good aim. Neither game is realistic although I think BF3 is a lot more realistic than CoD. To me CoD feels like a FPS game. BF2BC2 felt like a wargame and from what I've seen of BF3 I got the same feeling there: War.
I miss the old Rainbow Six games. You had one life and if you died you had to wait for the next match. That made people think more about their strategies in RS. They didn't run around spraying bullets everywhere. In fact if you ran around like a tard your aim would be terrible, like it should be. One bullet often killed you or at the least seriously hindered you. If you didn't use your brain you would generally suck. A soldiers best asset isn't his gun it's his brain. I loved Rainbow Six but I don't really want them to make another one because I know what Ubisoft will do to it. It will just be another CoD clone anyway.
I find it strange that instead of making all these CoD clones no developer seize the opportunity to fill the big gap in the intelligent shooter market. The semi-realistic military shooter niche. Something between ARMA and BF3 if you like. ARMA is just too clunky and unoptimized for any good competitive multiplayer mayhem in my opinion.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 17:14 Post subject: |
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| Taffelost wrote: | | Raap wrote: | | Don't think either BF or CoD are particularly good games, they both have many and different weaknesses, but it's kinda funny to see how BF players somehow think 'their' game requires more skill. In BF chance and luck actually plays a much bigger role because of a higher number of players and all the explosive and vehicle stuff, and camping, launchers-on-people, sniper-teams, etc. are all regular occurrences even with dedicated servers. |
The difference as I see it is that in CoD you need better twitch reflexes whereas in BF3 you need to play more intelligently. There's simply more options in BF3 and more strategies to exploit. In CoD it's more limited and all you really need is a good aim. Neither game is realistic although I think BF3 is a lot more realistic than CoD. To me CoD feels like a FPS game. BF2BC2 felt like a wargame and from what I've seen of BF3 I got the same feeling there: War.
I miss the old Rainbow Six games. You had one life and if you died you had to wait for the next match. That made people think more about their strategies in RS. They didn't run around spraying bullets everywhere. In fact if you ran around like a tard your aim would be terrible, like it should be. One bullet often killed you or at the least seriously hindered you. If you didn't use your brain you would generally suck. A soldiers best asset isn't his gun it's his brain. I loved Rainbow Six but I don't really want them to make another one because I know what Ubisoft will do to it. It will just be another CoD clone anyway.
I find it strange that instead of making all these CoD clones no developer seize the opportunity to fill the big gap in the intelligent shooter market. The semi-realistic military shooter niche. Something between ARMA and BF3 if you like. ARMA is just too clunky and unoptimized for any good competitive multiplayer mayhem in my opinion. |
Yeah, I can agree with that. And I do enjoy both games, at least in hardcore mode. CoD because it's kinda reminiscent of good old CS and I've always liked twitch shooters as long as the shooting/aiming/moving is done well. BF because it has pretty awesome sniping, huge and interesting maps( compared to most other games, that is) and the 'war' feel you describe. It's also very rewarding to play with a good squad, though that's kinda rare.
But yeah, the old RB6 games were great, even if the AI's aimbot was a bit too good much of the time. What I really liked about it was the planning stage though, seeing your carefully put together plan working flawlessly was awesome.
As for why we're not seeing something more ARMA-like, it might just simply be technical limitations. Fitting something like that on a PC is difficult enough( huge amounts of RAM needed), fitting it on consoles is probably next to impossible without taking out half of what makes it what it is.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 19:21 Post subject: |
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The most balanced game...in the same sentece with "you become a super soldier" .
Yeppers sir
Also whats up with the :
- sounds,those dont sound like weapons being fired
- Color style,they went for a more muted color patern,its really weird
- The weapon feedback feels weird,i mean from the things you hear and how the gun reacts,it janks all over the place like it has the willies
Could they atleast change the anouncer sounds,goddammit activision
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 21:45 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | How so? Killstreaks now don't only include kills, but captures etc. And you don't lose the streak when you die |
The fuck? |
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 21:56 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | garus wrote: | | How so? Killstreaks now don't only include kills, but captures etc. And you don't lose the streak when you die |
The fuck? |
That's what they said in the interview above |
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 22:06 Post subject: |
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 It's true then, the game is even more arcade-oriented than the previous ones ..oh well, we have BF3. |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 22:11 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | It's true then, the game is even more arcade-oriented than the previous ones ..oh well, we have BF3. |
You had doubts? |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 22:14 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | | It's true then, the game is even more arcade-oriented than the previous ones ..oh well, we have BF3. |
You had doubts? |
I thought they couldn't go lower than MW2 in terms of arcadishness, but I was wrong!  |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 22:18 Post subject: |
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Seriously!!! Oh ffs, this is just getting more and more pathetic all the time. NO! No we shouldn't fucking reward the retards who aren't skilled enough. Play, get better, EARN your rewards.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 22:20 Post subject: |
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Well lets hope they disable all these shitty things in clanwars, then i actually dont give a flying fuck about what they add for pubs.
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