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| Mister_s wrote: | | iconized wrote: | | A practical approach, stop wondering about stuff in which we are to little to comprehend it and start living a meaningful life. |
So most researchers are morons without a meaningful life? |
the sheer massive number of idiotic research (such as what % of sheep are gay, and 'does listening to loud music damage your hearing') should pretty much indicate a solid yes on that one...
i mean seriously.. what % of sheep are gay? someone researched this shit for fucks sake. someone actualy though 'hmm yes, i should spend a portion of my life researching this meaningful question... my life will not be complete unless i know how many fucking sheep are god damn gay'.
the number of honest, intelligent researchers, doing intelligent, beneficial and useful research, PALES in comparison to the amount of stupid shit being researched by researchers who just dont have anything better to do than waste time and money on crap. |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:46 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | A practical approach, stop wondering about stuff in which we are to little to comprehend it and start living a meaningful life.
Rephrase: Stop wondering about stuff that belittles our comprehension and start living a meaningful life. |
What's a meaningful life?
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:56 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: |
What's a meaningful life? |
Thats for you to find out. Noone can really relate his meaning to another. Thats also why you should not follow anyone because you think they can show you the way. You have to find the way by yourself.
There are moments though, especially for people that reflect a lot on themselves, that seem to open an abyss of absurdity before their eyes. You'll have to live through that. At some point you may just feel what a meaningful life is.
My personal problem is that I have quite huge ideals of how I should live to live a meaningful life, but in practice, I often do the contrary.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:58 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | I just wondered what YOU have figured out for yourself.
Is it a secret? |
Nope some of the goals I had in life are already ancient history. Like achieving something scientifically and find a soul mate, be happy and perhaps raise a family. With other words it's your goals in life that give a meaning to it. Life itself is meaningless.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:01 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Thats for you to find out. Noone can really relate his meaning to another. Thats also why you should not follow anyone because you think they can show you the way. You have to find the way by yourself. |
That sounds like something my mother would tell me as a child. Not quite the reply I was looking for, but thanks anyway 
| Quote: | | There are moments though, especially for people that reflect a lot on themselves, that seem to open an abyss of absurdity before their eyes. You'll have to live through that. At some point you may just feel what a meaningful life is. |
Oh, I'm long past the despair aspect of such thoughts. I had a rough time when I was younger when I realised the fragile nature of our concepts of right/wrong nature/chaos - and so forth.
At this stage, I'm just curious to hear the thoughts of others - and I'm not actually expecting any revelation. It's more about hoping that some people have pondered the same things and come up with something I haven't considered myself.
It can be healthy to debate these things, I find
| Quote: | | My personal problem is that I have quite huge ideals of how I should live to live a meaningful life, but in practice, I often do the contrary. |
Now you're starting to sound very much like me. I wouldn't say I do the contrary very often, but I most certainly don't do much in the way of the ideal.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:03 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | | Casus wrote: | I just wondered what YOU have figured out for yourself.
Is it a secret? |
Nope some of the goals I had in life are already ancient history. Like achieving something scientifically and find a soul mate, be happy and perhaps raise a family. With other words it's your goals in life that give a meaning to it. Life itself is meaningless. |
So, you've actually achieved happiness?
Are you absolutely certain that life is meaningless, even as you achieve goal?
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:20 Post subject: |
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If you reach certain goals you should find new ones. If you have one very strong goal in life and you achieve that, it can lead to lethargy. |
But what is the meaning behind those goals? They cannot be totally random, otherwise they would be meaningless, so I suppose they hint at something else.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:22 Post subject: |
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Find happiness I guess.
Formerly known as iconized
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:30 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: |
I think it matters whether "our truth" is truth or just a construct. |
Well then I would say, to put it in your words, a construct. An unverifiable approach to unravel the intangible truth trough, as what is being referred to in this topic, tools (logic, valuating, interpretation etcetera). All I'm saying is, if we'll never be able to verify the answer to truth, their would be no reason to try and understand it. You should make up your own truth instead, as what you're already doing and will be doing for the rest of your life. I'm afraid that's the only choice you'll ever have, but there will always be ideas or ideals that, more or less, fit your way of thinking.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 16:44 Post subject: |
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| suil wrote: | | Casus wrote: |
I think it matters whether "our truth" is truth or just a construct. |
Well then I would say, to put it in your words, a construct. An unverifiable approach to unravel the intangible truth trough, as what is being referred to in this topic, tools (logic, valuating, interpretation etcetera). All I'm saying is, if we'll never be able to verify the answer to truth, their would be no reason to try and understand it. You should make up your own truth instead, as what you're already doing and will be doing for the rest of your life. I'm afraid that's the only choice you'll ever have, but there will always be ideas or ideals that, more or less, fit your way of thinking. |
The problem is that we don't know if we'll ever be able to answer to it. For many, the pursuit is enough.
For me, I'm undecided if it's worth it to pursue truth - but I also know that I can't just stop it like turning off a switch.
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