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Steve-O 2004




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2005 22:50    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
Laughing 23kg..


Well actaully 33kg as I didnt count the weight of the big heavy bar Razz... also I can easilly lift it but start to strain at around 8 - 10, I was just woundering what the best weight to start with was... Ive never done weight lifting in my life and havent realy done any proper exercise except walk the dog etc every morning for a few years Razz and now we finally got all the gym machines out again im going to start using them Razz



Thanks for all the help Very Happy..


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2005 23:15    Post subject:
Steve, you'r doing really good for your first time, I started out even lower I think. Keep going, that's the most important thing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2005 23:24    Post subject:
well.. The first time i lifted some months ago i lifted 105 kg with the bench Very Happy beat that !!
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2005 23:48    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
well.. The first time i lifted some months ago i lifted 105 kg with the bench Very Happy beat that !!



How old are you?
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 00:03    Post subject:
am i the only one feeling the homoerotic vibe in this thread? Very Happy Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 00:15    Post subject:
hahaha. oh its there alright. oh yes, its there.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 00:18    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
well.. The first time i lifted some months ago i lifted 105 kg with the bench Very Happy beat that !!


Well that guy above is saying he could do 105 when he was 14, so meh, not that impressive.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 00:25    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
hahaha. oh its there alright. oh yes, it there.


makes you wanna totally lift it and show it around the gym, doesnt it? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 00:49    Post subject:
I belong to a very strange gym. If you drop a weight (even if on accident) the alarm goes off and the staff comes over and tells you not to do it again or if you grunt too loud the alarm will go off and the staff will come over and tell you it's a no grunting gym.

I just keep my ipod on and listen to the newest heavy metal cds and don't pay attention to anyone. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 02:13    Post subject:
Funny you mentioned this today Steve-0 as I've just started back at gym today. I like to start off on the running machine (it gives me a rush for some reason?) - keeps stomach flat and improves stamina for sport & shagging.
Next work on different muscle groups which are fresh. Do 3 sets of 10 reps each (try setting weight accordingly to make sure you really struggle on last couple of repetitions in your final set [leave a minute gap between each set]) - done to bulk up.
Finally - after you've warmed down - make sure you eat LOTS. Try focusing on protein based foods such as racks of ribs or chicken. Later (not too late tho) have some carb + protein based food to give your mind and body energy for the next day. Never eat late tho, or you'll get fat (also bad for metabolism).

P.S. yes there are two types of muscle - slow and fast twitch. Slow is endurance muscle and fast twitch is very strong but eats up juice. This is why you sometimes get scrawny ppl who are quite strong but get tired easily (& vice-versa).
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 04:19    Post subject:
CobbMk2 wrote:
Funny you mentioned this today Steve-0 as I've just started back at gym today. I like to start off on the running machine (it gives me a rush for some reason?) - keeps stomach flat and improves stamina for sport & shagging.
Next work on different muscle groups which are fresh. Do 3 sets of 10 reps each (try setting weight accordingly to make sure you really struggle on last couple of repetitions in your final set [leave a minute gap between each set]) - done to bulk up.
Finally - after you've warmed down - make sure you eat LOTS. Try focusing on protein based foods such as racks of ribs or chicken. Later (not too late tho) have some carb + protein based food to give your mind and body energy for the next day. Never eat late tho, or you'll get fat (also bad for metabolism).

P.S. yes there are two types of muscle - slow and fast twitch. Slow is endurance muscle and fast twitch is very strong but eats up juice. This is why you sometimes get scrawny ppl who are quite strong but get tired easily (& vice-versa).


let me guess your 15 and doin GCSE sports Rolling Eyes ur teacher is teaching you all wrong. 30 reps of 10 wont bulk you up. 805 of your maximum load as many times as you can = will bulk you up. and it's carbohydrates you should have before exercising..... as much as you can really.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 10:29    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
well.. The first time i lifted some months ago i lifted 105 kg with the bench Very Happy beat that !!


maybe, but How many could you do without stopping... Lifting it up once doesnt realy do anything Razz Razz Wink Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 14:12    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:

let me guess your 15 and doin GCSE sports Rolling Eyes ur teacher is teaching you all wrong. 30 reps of 10 wont bulk you up. 805 of your maximum load as many times as you can = will bulk you up. and it's carbohydrates you should have before exercising..... as much as you can really.


Just trying to help out with some good advice. & yes I minored in Sport Science at degree level but thats not where I got my knowledge.

Great book that'll tell you all you need to know is "Serious Growth III: Big Beyond Belief (Costa, Horine, & Platz [1994])"

btw, never said you shouldn't have carbs before exercising but make sure there's a big gap between eating & exersicing.

P.S. @Sublime:
You really shouldn't confuse ppl by giving advice on something you obviously know little about.

Start with 3 sets of 12 reps say, then the following week increase weight slightly so you can only do about 10 reps, then down to 7/8 reps the next week. Now start afresh but with v.slightly increased weights. And most importantly don't listen to ppl who get their advice out of thin air. Talk to the guys at the gym, they'll be happy to help.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 15:05    Post subject:
CobbMk2 wrote:
Talk to the guys at the gym, they'll be happy to help.


Agreed. That's the point of having personal trainers at the gym -- to help the gym noobs. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 15:06    Post subject:
what's the point in doung a set number? you should do whatever your body can do.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 15:19    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
what's the point in doung a set number? you should do whatever your body can do.


I don't know exactly what you're asking but doing a certain amount of sets with low reps / heavy weight has the best effect on hypertrophy (muscle growth).

To the original thread starter (and anyone else), don't listen to anyone here. If you're serious about lifting go to a forum or website dedicated to bodybuilding/powerlifting and read the articles/posts there.

I recommend http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ for a ton of information. Read the sticky's and use the search function.

I would also like to mention http://exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
It has a good list of different exercises for different muscle groups.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 15:35    Post subject:
krzys wrote:

To the original thread starter (and anyone else), don't listen to anyone here. If you're serious about lifting go to a forum or website dedicated to bodybuilding/powerlifting and read the articles/posts there.

I recommend http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ for a ton of information. Read the sticky's and use the search function.


'cept me, since I was the first person to recommend visiting a real site for bodybuilding & fitness. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 16:13    Post subject:
i say, hi
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 21:16    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
i say, hi

Hello to you too
And btw... thanks for the topic starter... because I got my gym intrest back... was lifting weight long time ago, but then I just stopped it :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 21:24    Post subject:
my max lift at the bench press is 120kg ---> 170cm/70kg Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 21:59    Post subject:
spacebot wrote:
my max lift at the bench press is 120kg ---> 170cm/70kg Very Happy


Work harder. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 22:03    Post subject:
[tough guy voice]When I walk in a room I demand respect. I will kick any man's ass who does not show me at least SOME level of respect. With the years of effort I have put into my body the least I demand is some type of respect. [/tough guy voice]

Maybe I should start lifting and turn into this guy Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 23:14    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
[tough guy voice]When I walk in a room I demand respect. I will kick any man's ass who does not show me at least SOME level of respect. With the years of effort I have put into my body the least I demand is some type of respect. [/tough guy voice]

Maybe I should start lifting and turn into this guy Wink


LOL... That guy sounds like a Ass... you dont want to become him Smile LOL


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005 23:33    Post subject:
Heh. He was banned quickly from the bodybuilding.com forums.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 05:03    Post subject:
Funny you should be talking about working , I just started AGAIN last week. Instead of worry how much your lifting you should worry more about technique. This is how I workout

1 set to failure
4 seconds up 4 seconds down
12 reps {add more weights when able to do 15 reps, legs 15/20 reps}
work out your whole body as quickly as possible 45 min
no need for cardio with this workout, unless your fat :]

One mother of a hard work out, try it, its supposed to grow your mucsles the fastest, but most people can't hack the intensity though. do a google on a good routine on 1 set to failure. enjoy
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 05:12    Post subject:
just remember.. the more your muscles hurt the next day.. the better... because basically what you do is tear your muscles.. and new muscle grows ....

i dont have set numbers of anything i do at the gym... mainly just using those machines that are like runners but they got the arms and legs moving in sync.. cant remember what they called.. then some weight excersizes Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 07:17    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
just remember.. the more your muscles hurt the next day.. the better... because basically what you do is tear your muscles.. and new muscle grows ....


There's a limit, your muscle can hurt, but not too much!


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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 08:16    Post subject:
Cartoon is right. Your goal is to make like small cracks in your muscles. When your muscles hurt, that means you've totally outdone yourself, your muscles are destroyed. When this happens you need to know two things:


1. Eat well (eggwhites is what you need)
2. Do not do anything with those muscles for 48 hours unless it's very light training.

The eating part is very important because if you don't eat well those muscles wont really recover, they don't grow. Also, do give it 48H of rest, time to recover.... or your muscles simply wont grow at all..... Some people think it's good to train everyday, everyday the same muscle groups, they are fucking themselves up real nice.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 13:36    Post subject:
You can just take protein supplements if it's inconvenient to eat 12 eggwhites a day. Razz


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