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well you will save more money getting a pack of verbs with the amount of disc you're wasting ATM
50x verbs for a price of a game suits me fine
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 20:54 Post subject: |
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| RizL4UK wrote: | | well you will save more money getting a pack of verbs with the amount of disc you're wasting ATM |
amount of disc?
I wasted 8.
I am stepping over to xkey or wasabi.
saving more money.
Live is of no interest to me on one of my three xboxes
and until that time I will wait for the time to come all of the discs are supported again to write XGD3
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 14:20 Post subject: |
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ienni,
As far as I know, if you're burning at 2.4x, you need to turn off OPC (optimum power calibration). I did this and have yet to have a single coaster. I've tried other types of media and all of them crapped out (at any speed) at around 49%, but the verbs were the only ones to get passed it and verify successfully. In IMGBurn, they should appear as MKM001 which should be burned at 2.4x. Hell, it still may not work you, but here you go...good luck!
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 16:33 Post subject: |
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| the_legend2k7 wrote: | ienni,
As far as I know, if you're burning at 2.4x, you need to turn off OPC (optimum power calibration). I did this and have yet to have a single coaster. I've tried other types of media and all of them crapped out (at any speed) at around 49%, but the verbs were the only ones to get passed it and verify successfully. In IMGBurn, they should appear as MKM001 which should be burned at 2.4x. Hell, it still may not work you, but here you go...good luck! |
let me see
did I do that already?
check.
let me see which error I got.
oh yeah 49% read error and 49% verification error.
no it won't work.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 22:40 Post subject: |
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| ienni wrote: | | the_legend2k7 wrote: | ienni,
As far as I know, if you're burning at 2.4x, you need to turn off OPC (optimum power calibration). I did this and have yet to have a single coaster. I've tried other types of media and all of them crapped out (at any speed) at around 49%, but the verbs were the only ones to get passed it and verify successfully. In IMGBurn, they should appear as MKM001 which should be burned at 2.4x. Hell, it still may not work you, but here you go...good luck! |
let me see
did I do that already?
check.
let me see which error I got.
oh yeah 49% read error and 49% verification error.
no it won't work. |
Ah okay...wasn't sure if you tried that yet...just saw the last post you made. Sucks man. Hope you figure something out.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 22:42 Post subject: |
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the fact this isn't happening to loads of other users shows there's something wrong with your process somewhere, simple as that.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 23:15 Post subject: |
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ienni people are here to help you and your sarcastic comments wont get you no where
Just face it get better disc stop trying to be so cheap
its the disc not your setup
Last edited by RizL4UK on Sat, 5th Nov 2011 23:18; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 23:17 Post subject: |
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What's happening to ienni is happening to me too-i think that's coz i'm using mkm-003 indian made verbs..a lot of people are saying they are shit and useless,gonna try mkm-001 and memorex later
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 23:19 Post subject: |
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yes me and my mates both had a batch of verbs from India mkm-003 and was all getting the same 49% verification error
All got a batch of singapore verbatims and all working fine now
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 23:40 Post subject: |
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| RizL4UK wrote: | yes me and my mates both had a batch of verbs from India mkm-003 and was all getting the same 49% verification error
All got a batch of singapore verbatims and all working fine now |
mkm-001's i presume?also i read that phillips and memorex are quite good
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 23:56 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 00:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 02:45 Post subject: |
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not using verbs here.
heard from a mate that maxell works also.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 04:21 Post subject: |
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They're all "supported" but you can't change their quality. Some of them are simply better.
None of them were designed to handle the 2133520 layerbreak (maximum is expected at 2086912), and they damn well weren't designed for overburning. If your burns stop half way it's most certainly at the layerbreak. It means your disc is physically weak, or should I say not ready for something it was never even designed for, that's why your XGD2 burns are "always fine" - they're within the +R DL standards.
You can get a "good burn" with other brands but if it has a shitload of PI/PIF errors you can still expect it to eventually fail the new checks...well that idea is what everyone is into these days so you're looking for results like this
PI ≤ 100 // average 5.0
PIF ≤ 4 // average 0.2
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this is my burn @4.0 with OPC |
...and if you're doing a kprobe test, there's no need to verify in imgburn.
So even if/when you succeed with another brand, it's very likely the quality of the burn will be bad, which is pretty much the same result as if you did a "truncate burn" - from the point of view of your console because the checks it will throw at the disc could fail. 
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When you buy DVD Media you can quality test the stability of any DVD Media to determine if the media is any good after you burn them. The better the results (lower error rates) you have in Kprobe, means that your discs will last longer and have a smaller chance of decay over time (and will also prove to be a correct XGD3 burn that will be less likely to show any CIV errors and more likely to pass all checks). Once you find the DVD Media that is good, stick with them.
https://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73298 |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 13:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 13:18 Post subject: |
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| archermac wrote: | They're all "supported" but you can't change their quality. Some of them are simply better.
None of them were designed to handle the 2133520 layerbreak (maximum is expected at 2086912), and they damn well weren't designed for overburning. If your burns stop half way it's most certainly at the layerbreak. It means your disc is physically weak, or should I say not ready for something it was never even designed for, that's why your XGD2 burns are "always fine" - they're within the +R DL standards.
You can get a "good burn" with other brands but if it has a shitload of PI/PIF errors you can still expect it to eventually fail the new checks...well that idea is what everyone is into these days so you're looking for results like this
PI ≤ 100 // average 5.0
PIF ≤ 4 // average 0.2
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this is my burn @4.0 with OPC |
...and if you're doing a kprobe test, there's no need to verify in imgburn.
So even if/when you succeed with another brand, it's very likely the quality of the burn will be bad, which is pretty much the same result as if you did a "truncate burn" - from the point of view of your console because the checks it will throw at the disc could fail.
| Spoiler: |
When you buy DVD Media you can quality test the stability of any DVD Media to determine if the media is any good after you burn them. The better the results (lower error rates) you have in Kprobe, means that your discs will last longer and have a smaller chance of decay over time (and will also prove to be a correct XGD3 burn that will be less likely to show any CIV errors and more likely to pass all checks). Once you find the DVD Media that is good, stick with them.
https://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73298 |
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| Quote: | | So even if/when you succeed with another brand, it's very likely the quality of the burn will be bad, which is pretty much the same result as if you did a "truncate burn" |
well at least the truncate way works for my 360.
Don't care if it gets checks from here to Green Lanterns realm.
I ain't gonna spend 60 euro for 50 verbatims when I can have 100 Maxell discs which also works just as good.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 13:31 Post subject: |
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@shittingaround its proven verbs have the best results
verbatim fanboy lol that's the first i have heard of that one
shittingaround send us the results screen from your other media
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 13:42 Post subject: |
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| RizL4UK wrote: | @shittingaround its proven verbs have the best results
verbatim fanboy lol that's the first i have heard of that one
shittingaround send us the results screen from your other media |
Then you don't go around often if that is the first you heard of verbatim fanboys.
and not all people care about the best results.
they want good-acceptable results and normal prices.
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 14:51 Post subject: |
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Why don't u guys just get rgh to avoid all the shit
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 15:30 Post subject: |
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How do you tell the Indian Verbs?
Simple as written on the disc / box?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 15:43 Post subject: |
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| shittingaround wrote: |
Everyone ? Nope, only verbatim fanbuoys, don't spread your bull tish and lise all over teh internet  I get same results with kprobe with other media by using diffrent burning methods. How much did verbatim pay you to write these nonsense  |
"What everyone is into = a trend, it's all the rage right now, it's hot etc.
It shouldn't be "hot" among "verbatim fanboys" because it's already well known that those discs are good and are for those who do not wish to experiment with other media. It's supposed to be a way to prove that other media is just as good while being cheaper. It's a different thing that people simply can't stop posting Verb results over and over and over again.
You had success with different media so you should put all the relevant info in one post and ask someone to pin it here http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31778
Hating Verbs will not help anyone, but giving good info on other brands can. It's not forbidden, it's welcome! It's you who should be crazy over kprobe because 50 pages of burnt Verbatims does not help anyone since we know they're good and are kind of a benchmark. Yes, I mean the team xecuter forum which is full of people showing off the same verbatim results and not letting people with other brands control the topic by actually giving new and good information which is easy to find and discuss.
If you want my opinion on the matter, I couldn't care less about the whole quality business because another burn I did on the same MKM003 type has catastrophic results but the game works without problems (forza 4). I did two kprobe test in total and don't give a shit anymore - every game I burnt is working fine.
I'm pretty sure I said that other brands can also work, but gave a friendly warning that it's likely to be of bad quality which could lead you to errors like if you used truncate - forza 4 boots you out of the game and that is not fun. I was talking about a possibility because a lot of other brands will indeed fail. That's exactly why it's good to check with kprobe and see just how good is that other brand.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 15:57 Post subject: |
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| Mclaneinc wrote: | How do you tell the Indian Verbs?
Simple as written on the disc / box? |
Yeah, should be written on the box or label if they are in one of those spindles
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2011 16:18 Post subject: |
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| Mclaneinc wrote: | How do you tell the Indian Verbs?
Simple as written on the disc / box? |
Seems like there is no chance I'll get a Singapore verbs since i'm from India
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