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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:02    Post subject:
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I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.

I mean the most beautiful game can be absolutely abysmal gameplay wise.


But CoD has none.

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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:02    Post subject:
we dont judge cod by its graphics, its just, everything else already sucks, so graphics is just kinda the last thing we hoped might change ... lol...


but that didnt either. CoD .. the Halo of today ^^
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:04    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.

I mean the most beautiful game can be absolutely abysmal gameplay wise.

It's a valid point here though, due to the inevitable comparison to BF3. There is absolutely no difference between BF3's campaign and the last few CoD games: short, generic, filled with stupid events - yet despite all that, I still enjoy them for what they are (excluding Black Ops, that was too shit to be true). BF has never been an SP title and CoD will never return to the greatness that was CoD 1 and 2 in both SP and MP.

Differences between BF3 and CoD then? The former looks good doing what it does. Latter is still the same bastardised Tech 3 based engine it has been since CoD2 (as CoD1 was a pure Tech 3 title).


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wow look at those little pieces of ash flying arround.

And wow look at the details on that M4,it looks better than BF3's m4 Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:08    Post subject:
garus wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.

I mean the most beautiful game can be absolutely abysmal gameplay wise.


But CoD has none.


No Gameplay? If that were the case no body would play it. But that seems wrong.

The formula behind each call of duty is simple. It offers good amount of fun to all kinds of playstyles and skill level.

I mean i find BF3 utterly boring and a money wasted game. And some of my friends think the same.

So if you were to ask me, does BF3 look better than COD? Yes it does.

Is it better? No it's not, because all of those additions like lens flare, sound occlusion and whatnot hinder the competetive nature of the game.

Is BF3 better than COD4 or Blops? No its not. Atleast not in my book. And plenty of people agree with me, judging by sales numbers and the amount of players playing.

So if I had a choice BF3 or COD- It would naturally be cod, since it's just a lot more fun to actually play.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:08    Post subject:
MW3 is an insanely chaos cod action. You dont even have time to notice the graphics, but there seems to be upgraded models and lighting which is FENOMENAL.

Fuck all the hater who only care aobut graphics "bf3 is da shit 3000x3000 aaX24"

All this graphics comparison makes me sick lately. Cant some people just try to actually enjoy the game and not bitch about X10zooming on textures? oh cmon


At least it will proboablly work like butter on pc with aa and af maxed as every cod (not black ops)


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:10    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.

I mean the most beautiful game can be absolutely abysmal gameplay wise.

It's a valid point here though, due to the inevitable comparison to BF3. There is absolutely no difference between BF3's campaign and the last few CoD games: short, generic, filled with stupid events - yet despite all that, I still enjoy them for what they are (excluding Black Ops, that was too shit to be true). BF has never been an SP title and CoD will never return to the greatness that was CoD 1 and 2 in both SP and MP.

Differences between BF3 and CoD then? The former looks good doing what it does. Latter is still the same bastardised Tech 3 based engine it has been since CoD2 (as CoD1 was a pure Tech 3 title).


But I mean there's no one really that plays either of these games for single player. It's just disk filler


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:10    Post subject:
Holy smokes at that tricked out AK ,thats it im buyeng this game!

Textures look miles above anything else
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:27    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
garus wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.

I mean the most beautiful game can be absolutely abysmal gameplay wise.


But CoD has none.


No Gameplay? If that were the case no body would play it. But that seems wrong.

The formula behind each call of duty is simple. It offers good amount of fun to all kinds of playstyles and skill level.

I mean i find BF3 utterly boring and a money wasted game. And some of my friends think the same.

So if you were to ask me, does BF3 look better than COD? Yes it does.

Is it better? No it's not, because all of those additions like lens flare, sound occlusion and whatnot hinder the competetive nature of the game.

Is BF3 better than COD4 or Blops? No its not. Atleast not in my book. And plenty of people agree with me, judging by sales numbers and the amount of players playing.

So if I had a choice BF3 or COD- It would naturally be cod, since it's just a lot more fun to actually play.


COD is a console shooter (starting with 3 and breaking through with 4)

Console players do make up the big chunk of their sales (true, not even arguing).

soooo, who are they catering to ... the small percentage of pc gamers or the huge chunk of (usually) "casual quick play and forget" console gamer ?

yeah, was obvious i know.


And no, cod is not "for all skill levels". People with a high average skills in FPS' games dont touch cod with a 10m long pole ... They stick with games like cs 1.x (or even css) and .. hm .. what else is there in competitive FPS' ... kinda drawing a blank here lol (quake is dead for some time now, what am i missing lol ?)
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:28    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
garus wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.

I mean the most beautiful game can be absolutely abysmal gameplay wise.


But CoD has none.


No Gameplay? If that were the case no body would play it. But that seems wrong.

The formula behind each call of duty is simple. It offers good amount of fun to all kinds of playstyles and skill level.

I mean i find BF3 utterly boring and a money wasted game. And some of my friends think the same.

So if you were to ask me, does BF3 look better than COD? Yes it does.

Is it better? No it's not, because all of those additions like lens flare, sound occlusion and whatnot hinder the competetive nature of the game.

Is BF3 better than COD4 or Blops? No its not. Atleast not in my book. And plenty of people agree with me, judging by sales numbers and the amount of players playing.

So if I had a choice BF3 or COD- It would naturally be cod, since it's just a lot more fun to actually play.


I agree... with the complete opposite of what you said. Me and all my friends think COD MP is boring. So yes, for us BF games are much better games. But oh well, it's a matter of opinions isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:32    Post subject:
COD is what it is - a bit of mindless fun - not the same game it used to be and each episode is short lived for me now. That said - it's worth the Russian retail price 499 Rubles ... had to splash out for that. Pre loading Fuck Yeah
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:33    Post subject:
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That FOV is horrible. Same as in MW2.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:33    Post subject:
@4treyu

Yes it is. To each his own. This is why I am not bashing BF3 for being a crap game. I enjoy COD more, and many enjoy BF more.

This is why pointless bashing of COD is kinda wrong imo.

@Sin317

While competetive CSS is dead, COD4 still has numerous LAN's and major organizations supporting the game. Obviously Starcraft 2 is the current esport king, closely followed by Halo and Black Ops on consoles. CS has faded into oblivion and so has quake live.

"And no, cod is not "for all skill levels". People with a high average skills in FPS' games dont touch cod with a 10m long pole"

I think you are wrong. You make it seem like COD is an easy game to play. Which it is not if you step outside of random TDM pub.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:50    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
@4treyu

Yes it is. To each his own. This is why I am not bashing BF3 for being a crap game. I enjoy COD more, and many enjoy BF more.

This is why pointless bashing of COD is kinda wrong imo.

@Sin317

While competetive CSS is dead, COD4 still has numerous LAN's and major organizations supporting the game. Obviously Starcraft 2 is the current esport king, closely followed by Halo and Black Ops on consoles. CS has faded into oblivion and so has quake live.

"And no, cod is not "for all skill levels". People with a high average skills in FPS' games dont touch cod with a 10m long pole"

I think you are wrong. You make it seem like COD is an easy game to play. Which it is not if you step outside of random TDM pub.


lets totally defunc your statement :

example :

COD 4 ESL LADDERS

5on5 SND
http://www.esl.eu/eu/cod4/promod/sd/5on5/ladder/
143 teams

3on3 SND
http://www.esl.eu/eu/cod4/promod/sd/3on3/ladder/
138 teams,

2 ladders only, 3v3 or 5v5 SND

Now cs (cs 1.6 !) (only taking 3v3 , 4v4 and 5v5 ladder , not 1v1 and 2v2)

CS 1.6 ESL LADDERS

3v3
http://www.esl.eu/eu/cs/3on3/mr15/ladder/
289 teams

4v4
http://www.esl.eu/eu/cs/4on4/mr15/ladder/
170 teams

5v5
http://www.esl.eu/eu/cs/5on5/mr15/ladder/
389 teams.


sooo, lets compare, shall we ?

COD4: MW

281 teams

CS 1.6

848 teams

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so, in the future, dont guess and make up stuff lol.

(just for the fun of it, css 3v3 and 5v5 (2 normal ladders, not gungame and handgun)

566 teams, yeah, twice that of cod4 ...
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 17:54    Post subject:
They should make that gun look little more bigger... So god damn bad FOV yet again... :/
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:08    Post subject:
Thats screens make me remember Crysis 2.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:10    Post subject:
How did you start it JB? My brother is currently downloading the game,he had a russian key so he eventually will only have russian files ._.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:10    Post subject:
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Thats screens make me remember Crysis 2.


how so ?


also, they couldnt possible make the gun any bigger, can they ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:10    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:12    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
I wonder why people use graphics to judge games.


Were graphics used at all in the games marketing?

Yes?
Game looks like crap?
Bash it

No?
Who gives a flying....
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:20    Post subject:
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Amazing! O RLY? lol wut
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:21    Post subject:
Cant wait to get this game!

..jebem li vam majku u picku da vam jebem pretke i potomke govna se našla srat po COD
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:23    Post subject:
Would those of you who have it mind giving some actual useful info? Can you change fov in MP? Can you change the network settings( like snaps and maxpackets)? Or have they restricted everything again?
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:23    Post subject:
Yeah I just had to get that and the death screen in there. Laughing

Anyway it's just using the cs.rin discussion information on how to decrypt the files along with the usual steam_appid.txt file (42680 for the SP exe, 42690 when using the MP exe.) but it needs to be write protected as the game will attempt to delete this before starting.

Unsure how the MP part is but apparently there's a number of people playing already.
(Game reviewers? Who knows.)

EDIT: Didn't try to fiddle with the console but I will check that shortly assuming there is something, no FoV command in the generated config file, only aspect ratio.


EDIT: Not much under the MP section either, disabled some stuff but it still stutters a bit while in those menus as it tries to query stuff like facebook. Razz



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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:23    Post subject:
IvanGrozny wrote:
Cant wait to get this game!

..jebem li vam majku u picku da vam jebem pretke i potomke govna se našla srat po COD


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 18:30    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
NeHoMaR wrote:
Thats screens make me remember Crysis 2.


how so ?
New York city maybe?
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