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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 18:27    Post subject:
My worries about this game is that PvP will be a matter of gear and not actual skills like it is in say WoW.
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 18:28    Post subject:
No probs, never hurts to keep an eye on the map for quest icons, there are tonns of optional quests besides the main story. Smile
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Ace170780




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:03    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
I was under the impression that regardless of the roll outcome, you will always get the points related to your own specific response. What you actually see played out is just due to the roll


You get your light or dark side points yes but the one who wins the roll gets "Social Bonuse points" but I think everyone gets a base amount for being part of a party anyway. Not sure didn't get to delve into it much but If i recall from previous beta there is a vendor where you can spend your social points or badges to get items that way. Just my observations but again I didn't pay as much attention to it as I would have liked as I was to engrossed into the story lol Razz
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okiosu




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:07    Post subject:
fuck this..internal error 3....and server wiped my char....fuck this shit
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:36    Post subject:
okiosu wrote:
fuck this..internal error 3....and server wiped my char....fuck this shit


whot? You´re joking?

So far its better then i´ve expected. I like the style, the gfx... i guess its a matter of taste. Sure there are some blurry textures, but the overall impression is great. Everythings a bit comic like and bright... i like that. For people who like rather dark environments like Skyrim, this could be a problem...

The animations and fighting is on wow niveau... which is great. First mmorpg ever where i can say this. Guess this will be a good timekiller until D3 arrives. Very Happy
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khaze




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 19:44    Post subject:
Can I only preorder on origin?
Not really that important but if I could have early access it would be nice.
Also, what's the lowest price anyone found?
G2play has it for 43 euros.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 20:30    Post subject:
Taffelost wrote:
My worries about this game is that PvP will be a matter of gear and not actual skills like it is in say WoW.


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BLuNT318




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 20:57    Post subject:
wow what a lagfest, I understand stress testing the servers, but the lag is rediculous, lol.... not my rig, the servers are hammered


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Mikey5449
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 21:08    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Taffelost wrote:
My worries about this game is that PvP will be a matter of gear and not actual skills like it is in say WoW.


Pfffbwhahahaahaa

I lol'd too Very Happy
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eyelids




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 21:15    Post subject:
Uhh, performance is horrible on my laptop. This maybe scares me away a bit. Maybe it will be improved on launch?
Though enjoying the game so far. Tried Sith Warrior, Bounty Hunter and Jedi Consular.
Maybe I'll roll a dark side Jedi knight when the game comes out.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 21:34    Post subject:
Taffelost wrote:
My worries about this game is that PvP will be a matter of gear and not actual skills like it is in say WoW.


Laughing Laughing
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gromar




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 21:51    Post subject:
so oooooo no more freee cd--key damn Sad cant play it aTm pm me pl0x <_>
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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 22:14    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Taffelost wrote:
My worries about this game is that PvP will be a matter of gear and not actual skills like it is in say WoW.


Pfffbwhahahaahaa

OMG did I just say that? Holy shit.. I meant to say that I think SWTOR will be just like WoW where gear always is more important than actual skills.

I was thinking to myself wtf is he laughing about until I read what I just said more closely. Now get out of my way while I go and stand in my corner.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 22:35    Post subject:
and if gear didn't mean this much your would most certainly complain about your gear not doing shit for you. Think about it for a second.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:12    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
and if gear didn't mean this much your would most certainly complain about your gear not doing shit for you. Think about it for a second.



dont bother .. trust me Smile
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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:23    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
and if gear didn't mean this much your would most certainly complain about your gear not doing shit for you. Think about it for a second.

Stop being retarded. I've been playing EVE Online since 2006.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:33    Post subject:
Another of these EVE elitists. I'll just cut the discussion here.
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:37    Post subject:
Yup, eve players consider eve not as a game, but serious business.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:40    Post subject:
Bah, i want to give this a try, but the shadows are so fucking bugged for me... Even putting the slider halfway, then every shadow is completely gone.

Is there noone else with same problem?


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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:41    Post subject:
okiosu wrote:
fuck this..internal error 3....and server wiped my char....fuck this shit


You do realise this is a beta, yes? Laughing
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sausje
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:43    Post subject:
Ah AMD Sad

Quote:
16) ATI video cards may experience some graphical inconsistencies such as blank icons (separate from the known issue above), blank character portraits, or flickering shadows.


http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=580892


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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:52    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Another of these EVE elitists. I'll just cut the discussion here.


Dude you assumed I would complain if gear didn't have that much to say and I responded with I've been playing EVE since 2006, as a rebuttal. Then you respond with me being an elitist EVE player. Now what it is? Would I complain if gear didn't matter that much or am I elitist? Make up your mind son. Next time don't assume too much.

If gear would matter to me why am I basically flying the same ships with the same mods in EVE Online today as I was 4-5 years ago? I hate gear centric games. I don't feel like putting in all the required hours to stay viable in PvP.
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Nov 2011 23:54    Post subject:
I don't like playing PvP for gear. That's what I liked about Guild Wars among other things. Everyone had access to same equipment (kind of, you still had to play few matches to unlock stuff you wanted, which probably was pain in the ass for newer players as it is in most MMORPGs).

Other than that I must say I am not that impressed. I got over the fact that combat is just like WoW but with cannons, guns and light sabers. Voice acting is rather nice addition but to me it looks like it was major selling point in SWTOR and it took huge chunk of development budget and time at expense of gameplay and game design. Story is...well BioWare quality (whether it's a good or bad thing I leave up to you)

World design looks nice at first but sooner or later you'll realize it's just a corridor, there's very little or nothing to explore. World in WoW or Rift and alike are crafted better in my opinion as they offer more open areas. Graphics don't trouble me much, but to say the least they're underwhelming in this day and age. All in all it kinda reminded me a bit Allods Online F2P in many ways in this regard.

Overall game didn't impress me much, it's not a bad game per se, but nothing out of the ordinary that'd make me buy the final game. I bet it will be hugely successful but I'm really looking forward to seeing how many subs will SWTOR keep after initial first months.


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 00:14    Post subject:
you're assuming a lot taffelost and you know what people say, if you assume, you're just a ...


that aside, saying WoW's pvp is not skill based but item based .. please ...

yeah, very different from any RPG game really.... a naked guy should be able to win against someone in full epic gear .. sure ...

and telling people its not skill but items only, is just a cheap excuse.


Now go ahead, call me a fanboy (anyone) like you always do in this cases lol.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 00:24    Post subject:
If people want PvP with no gear rewards there are PLENTY of other games to choose from.
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 00:25    Post subject:
Ok, couldn't stay away. Only took one more mission and got my ship (BTW, space combat suck major balls compared to SWG's JTLS).

Decided to go to Nar Shada first. And yeah, it looks pretty wicked. Very Happy
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 00:43    Post subject:
i wonder why bioware uses jpg for their screenshots and not bmp.

The screenshots all look ugly when compared to the actual ingame image .. i
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Acer




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 01:28    Post subject:
so just to clarify, you wont be able to use your beta character with the retail version?

Its kinda a shame to lose my sith marauder after all the killing and such...


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BLuNT318




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 01:29    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
so just to clarify, you wont be able to use your beta character with the retail version?

Its kinda a shame to lose my sith marauder after all the killing and such...


yes dude, you are correct, you cannot use your character from the BETA in the RETAIL release...


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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2011 01:31    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
you're assuming a lot taffelost and you know what people say, if you assume, you're just a ...


that aside, saying WoW's pvp is not skill based but item based .. please ...


Have you ever visited the planet earth Sin? Really. Pay attention to what's being said instead of just guessing and diving into a discussion guns blazing. He was the one saying I would complain if gear didn't count as much not me so don't tell me who's assuming here.

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and if gear didn't mean this much your would most certainly complain about your gear not doing shit for you. Think about it for a second.

This is an assumption and a wrong assumption at that. Because I fucking hate item based PvP.

And while we're speaking of WoW.. yeah it's one of the worst examples of a gear based MMO there is. At least it was when I played the game a few years ago. You can "please" all you want but it doesn't change a fact everyone except of the WoW-bois all know. Items shoudl definitely count obviously, but it shouldn't be the deciding factor over who will win. Items should be the deciding factor over who would win when two equally skilled players PvP. Skills should always be the most important factor in my opinion. That's why I still play EVE after all those years. If a few WoW-players find that elitist... let's just say I can live with that and I won't loose any sleep over it.
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