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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 02:46    Post subject: [ ] Told [ ] Told Hard [X] Knights of the Told Republic











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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 02:53    Post subject:
Buuurn Laughing

edit: the post is still alive, which is something knowing Bioware's censorship and lack of humour:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/304/index/6511895/2
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 03:27    Post subject:
Someone should ask him about the Qunari. First they are an empire and religion, then a race (and Sten is totally special because suddenly he's a Qunari (race) with no horns) and later a religion again (which morphs Sten back to a human again).

Gaider is just a stupid fuck... actually he's a hooker with a pen in his hand Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 04:58    Post subject:
i lol'ed
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 05:21    Post subject:
Small time, here's how it's done

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 10:16    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 10:21    Post subject:
So is it really sinking or what?
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 10:30    Post subject:
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inz




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 10:39    Post subject:
Yeah I haven't followed it at all. I'd be more than happy if it ended up being a catastrophe, screw Bioware. Troll Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 11:49    Post subject:
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Never played it, never will. I can't support a transition from fantastic RPG into MMO.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 13:17    Post subject:
Why is an MMO inherently bad? And how can you judge something having never tried it? Wink

inz wrote:
So is it really sinking or what?


It's a good game, I don't think it's sinking, but I think it's little too early to tell. Most people seem to be enjoying questing and leveling up, but it depends on the end-game if they manage to keep their subscriber base.

So far I feel like Bioware knows what it is doing with this one.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 13:57    Post subject:
lmao. SWTOR 'sinking'?

I'm not going to bother.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 16:30    Post subject:
It's weird, I hate WoW and all it stands for.

But SW:TOR is so much better than I had hoped (well, I didn't have particularly high expectations). This is a game that the PvP-crowd aren't that happy about but is perfect for SP and Co-op story-questing. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 16:42    Post subject:
Right now I dont think I will play much after I have gone through the story lines I feel are interesting (Smuggler, Imperial Agent, Sith Inquisitor). Those are very enjoyable though and so far I have played the smuggler all the way with a friend who's a jedi so we get 2 story lines in one actually.

Frant is correct that currently this sucks for PvP. The instances are very small(something like 60 people tops for each side in an instance) so world PvP is rare, at best, and the 'smoothness' of the game leaves a lot to be desired. Like it or not, WoW was top of the line when it came to that. No delay on queued abilities etc etc

But for my temper and my age this is very fun at the moment Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 16:48    Post subject:
This is an MMO for the Single player who're completely uninterested in number crunching, template character building to fit a certain role in PvP etc...

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 16:50    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
This is an MMO for the Single player who're completely uninterested in number crunching, template character building to fit a certain role in PvP etc...


A single player MMO is what I'd call an oxymoron. The criticism is valid and the things need to be fixed for this to work long term. I'd love to spend many hours in PvP, ops etc but at the moment I cant see myself doing that. Aggro management and cast system is subpar, imo.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 20:23    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
Frant wrote:
This is an MMO for the Single player who're completely uninterested in number crunching, template character building to fit a certain role in PvP etc...


A single player MMO is what I'd call an oxymoron. The criticism is valid and the things need to be fixed for this to work long term. I'd love to spend many hours in PvP, ops etc but at the moment I cant see myself doing that. Aggro management and cast system is subpar, imo.


I couldn't care less about PvP. Besides, MMO isn't a definition set by WoW. MMO simply means Massive Multiplayer Online. There are puzzle games that are MMO's. I suppose poker sites could be classified as MMO's.

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 23:14    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
zipfero wrote:
Frant wrote:
This is an MMO for the Single player who're completely uninterested in number crunching, template character building to fit a certain role in PvP etc...


A single player MMO is what I'd call an oxymoron. The criticism is valid and the things need to be fixed for this to work long term. I'd love to spend many hours in PvP, ops etc but at the moment I cant see myself doing that. Aggro management and cast system is subpar, imo.


I couldn't care less about PvP. Besides, MMO isn't a definition set by WoW. MMO simply means Massive Multiplayer Online. There are puzzle games that are MMO's. I suppose poker sites could be classified as MMO's.


Your obsession with hating WoW is putting words in my mouth. I have said no such thing. I have played WoW, but I have also played Anarchy Online, Lineage 2, Star Wars Galaxies etc etc. You can spin your definition of an MMO however you want but the fact is there is a very set theme for an MMORPG such as this and they are following it to the letter. Nothing wrong with that, as you can see I'm quite fond of the genre. Fact is that when it comes to combat smoothness and responsiveness no game in this genre(or most others for that matter) have had a quality like WoW. This has nothing to do with content, pvp, pve, thats just how it is.

If a game with this budget is to survive it needs to have sustainable end-game content. For many that is PvE experiences and for some its PvP and for some its a mix. Or do you disagree?
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2012 23:53    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
This is an MMO for the Single player who're completely uninterested in number crunching, template character building to fit a certain role in PvP etc...


That's what I keep hearing, but then why would I pay a monthly subscription when there's plenty of proper single player RPG's out there.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jan 2012 00:28    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Frant wrote:
This is an MMO for the Single player who're completely uninterested in number crunching, template character building to fit a certain role in PvP etc...


That's what I keep hearing, but then why would I pay a monthly subscription when there's plenty of proper single player RPG's out there.


Seriously dont take Frants word for it, he is on some kind of crusade to end all MMORPG playing.

If you enjoy MMORPG's there is plenty of things to like. And hell its not like you are FORCED to pay forever? But hey it will be here for quite a while..I have played some PVP and the responsiveness and smoothness is not up to par, imo but its not boring. The scenarios are pretty fun. Dont have a lvl 50 so cant say anything about raiding(Ops).
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jan 2012 07:12    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
Frant wrote:
zipfero wrote:


A single player MMO is what I'd call an oxymoron. The criticism is valid and the things need to be fixed for this to work long term. I'd love to spend many hours in PvP, ops etc but at the moment I cant see myself doing that. Aggro management and cast system is subpar, imo.


I couldn't care less about PvP. Besides, MMO isn't a definition set by WoW. MMO simply means Massive Multiplayer Online. There are puzzle games that are MMO's. I suppose poker sites could be classified as MMO's.


Your obsession with hating WoW is putting words in my mouth. I have said no such thing. I have played WoW, but I have also played Anarchy Online, Lineage 2, Star Wars Galaxies etc etc. You can spin your definition of an MMO however you want but the fact is there is a very set theme for an MMORPG such as this and they are following it to the letter. Nothing wrong with that, as you can see I'm quite fond of the genre. Fact is that when it comes to combat smoothness and responsiveness no game in this genre(or most others for that matter) have had a quality like WoW. This has nothing to do with content, pvp, pve, thats just how it is.

If a game with this budget is to survive it needs to have sustainable end-game content. For many that is PvE experiences and for some its PvP and for some its a mix. Or do you disagree?


Now THAT is something I agree with. If SW:TOR want to survive they HAVE to cater a lot for the PvP crowd since they're ultimately the ones that will keep subscribing. PvE-players like myself will at most pay 1-2 months to play through a couple of characters to lvl 50 and check out the end game, whatever that will be.

I really really like SW:TOR for the PvE, Solo play and Co-op playing (sharing story lines in a group as two different classes playing the game together with a friend).

It's still an MMO, it currently caters more for the PvE-crowd than the PvP-crowd. It all comes up to what Bioware will do with the game.

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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jan 2012 07:17    Post subject:
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Seriously dont take Frants word for it, he is on some kind of crusade to end all MMORPG playing.


Now you're pulling conclusions out of your ass. I played WoW for 5-6 months and enjoyed it in the beginning but at one point I got a revelation that it's a stupid game with clever tricks to keep the masses subscribed and willing to grind daily, like doing the same boring instances every single day to get currency to buy gear that is slightly better. Not to mention the story design is 100x worse than the one they have in SW:TOR. Heck, EVERY quest-NPC you meet in TOR have tons of voice recorded combined with a story, not just generic generated bullshit quests.

That's from the perspective of a PvE player btw.

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