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Aeon
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The best way to exclude OC would have been going back to stock clocks. Since your issue seems to happen quickly enough, it wouldn't be so much trouble (In my case BSODs happened once every few days, so it was pain in the ass to troubleshoot).
That's one weird issue you have there in any case. Is it only BF3 that hangs like that?
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 21:17 Post subject: |
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only bf3 yes and im playing pretty much every game there is ^^.
And the bsods are gone, since i cant even launch the game anymore ^^
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 21:21 Post subject: |
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That's what you get for neglecting BF3, sin! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 21:36 Post subject: |
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this game was too short:[ Campaign was awesome but too short.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:25 Post subject: |
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well, reinstalled 285.62 drivers (tribes:ascend isnt compatible with new physx, so just aswell + these drivers are very stable), set my bios settings to default, reinstalled battlefield 3 yet again.
and im back at the same point when i started.
couple minutes into the game, pc freezes, sound loops (crash noise, you know)
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.4
Locale ID: 2055
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: FFFFFA8006B304F8
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1
http://www.mediafire.com/?uaq6uglow64w7rz dumpfile
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Guyver
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:28 Post subject: |
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it doesnt say about "xxxx stopped working/functioning..."?
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:31 Post subject: |
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my whole computer freezes (bsod event). i wish it was only "bf3.exe stopped working" lol.
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Guyver
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:32 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | my whole computer freezes (bsod event). i wish it was only "bf3.exe stopped working" lol. |
you got me wrong, on the BSOD doesnt say anything particular like "nvidia.... stopped working" or something like that? |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:50 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:58 Post subject: |
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thanks, lets try that hehe.
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Guyver
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 00:17 Post subject: |
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if you haven't already tried, try disable/disinstall the audio card&driver.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 00:22 Post subject: |
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not much of a solution ^^
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 00:24 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 00:39 Post subject: |
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im too tired to try that kinda stuff today. + i dont really wanna realise i cant play with sound ^^. thats what i meant with not much of a solution.
even IF it works, i still would be unable to play (because no way i would play without sound).
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Guyver
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 01:50 Post subject: |
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well, it's just for testing&narrowing the problem!
you don't know how much times i've got problems with my onboard sound system VS my pci audigy. 
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 07:25 Post subject: |
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A quick look at the dump file just shows the ntoskrnl.exe as the culprit again. This doesn't really say much by itself, just points to a hardware or a low-level driver issue.
For hardware, the easiest thing to exclude would be memory. Just remove one stick at a time and try to play the game. Although considering how quickly BF3 crashes the system, I would suspect that memory issues like that would show up elsewhere easily enough as well.
For driver issues, try using the Driver Verifier. I can't post a link right now, but you should be able to google for some guides on how to use it to seek out bad drivers on your system. Basically you create a restore point and set up the verifier to run on your system for a day. When it finds a bad driver it will BSOD the system (quite possibly making it unbootable after that in the process), so you restore your system from the restore point you created and examine the dump file. It should point to the actual driver that caused this.
As mentioned before, MSI afterburner or similar apps have been known to cause this (possibly due to conflicts with punkbuster), so if you have anything like that installed try removing it for troubleshooting. You could also try and run the game in SP, and see if that works...
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 11:47 Post subject: |
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i only (re) installed msi afterburner AFTER i started to get bsods and once i saw that temps werent the issue, i havent had it run anymore. the only things running on my system, are, core temp, realtek HD audio manager, AV, Steam. (and origin when launching bf3)
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 11:51 Post subject: |
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Wasnt the crashing problem linked to Realtek HD audio and punkbuster?
I saw alot of threads on it and myself getting a dedicated audio card and disabling realtek in the bios fixed it for me.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 12:03 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | i only (re) installed msi afterburner AFTER i started to get bsods and once i saw that temps werent the issue, i havent had it run anymore. the only things running on my system, are, core temp, realtek HD audio manager, AV, Steam. (and origin when launching bf3) |
realtek... you really need to try disabling the audio, most of my previous issues with audio, were on realtek and audigy.  |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 12:09 Post subject: |
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A friend of mine had the same issue, using a gtx 560ti, he tried EVERYTHING, beta video drivers, disabling audio, using usb earphones, slaughtering a chicken, EVERYTHING. And it was only happening with battlefield, sometimes he could improve his situation using different drivers, and he got to the point that only one in three crashes were bsods (crashes to the desktop the other times). Then he had a stroke of genius, since he tried everything he tried to move is memory banks around in the slots. Dunno what happened but since he did it bf3 never crashed again (mind you he did intesive memory testing, running memtest for over a day, and it reported no problems with the ram).
Since it seems it's only "voodoo" give it a try, maybe it will do good to you too.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 13:23 Post subject: |
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underclock your GPU to the stock settings, if its a SC or OC version put it back to real stock settings nvidia define not the card maker. and check the voltage of the GPU as mine is actually 0.98v not 1.013 as afterburner sets it to.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 13:54 Post subject: |
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its confirmed the onboard sound chip. I tried everything else first, then uninstalled realtek drivers (rebooted and windows installed its default audio drivers), still crashed, then disabled audio all together (device manager) and no more crash.
that being said, i can play singleplayer campaign just fine with sound and everything ...
Only crashes in MP.
Now i know my hardware isnt faulty, since this is a problem MANY people had with bf3 since its release and DIce apparantly never fixed (and i guess they changed something in last patch that now affects me aswell, maybe it fixed it for others , dunno).
guess all i can do, is wait and hope for dice to fix their garbage.
edit :
further research has shown, that apparantly its a problem between realtek and punkbuster (that explains why i can play sp just fine) , so dice wont ever be able to fix this (i guess).
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 14:25 Post subject: |
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Realtek is just shit, period. Get a decent soundcard.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Feb 2012 14:42 Post subject: |
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Had a friend with the same problem in BC2 never got fixed for him and trust me he tried EVERYTHING although he did not have the issue with BF3 though.
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