I know your not m8 lol its all in discussion were all friends here.
but for the record , im not thinking about it too much
ME1 was booring
ME2 was boring ..... then it became great
Replay ME1 it still more boring than 2 but its better
Replay ME2 hit da awezomez buttonz again yo
ME3.... dont think about it... no preconceptions......more enjoyment.......
ME1 was different to ME2 so if i think about it i "Expect" ME3 to be different
IT WILL BE AWSOME !!!!
Expectation is based on (at least should) on logic, if something always fail, you expect that it will fail again.
If you like something, you will build expectations, your expectation is that it will be good as ME2, or at least better (even if you deny it).
There is a guy named Robert King something (will check later), he is a Socialist and a Writer, there is a good book of him about the subject in question.
Answering, "stupid", without actually saying anything about the argument itself its a fallacy. Yes, i did called you stupid, but that was not my argument. It was my interpretation of your own actions, and you prove it by replying "Huh ? are you stupid ?".
Anyway, im just losing my time here since i have nothing better to do today.
I dont have anything against you, but i do have against what you said.
I dont care if you think i am stupid , i dont care if anybody thinks my replies are stupid , dumb or absolutely amazing ,they're just replies in a thread about something of relatively NO importance whatsoever tbh , its a game , i dont give a shit one way or another until i actually play it which is when i will decide whether if its amazing a massive let down or just "meh"
As for Robert King , i dont have a clue who that is nor do i care lol ive got this far in life ( wife two kids two cars paid off mortgage ) without knowing who he or 6 billion other people on the planet are lol so what he or anybody else thinks of expectation doesnt bother me in the slightest , nor will it interest me tomorrow or the day after or the day after , no matter what you or anybody else thinks i have no real expectation of what the actual game will be like , i have avoided as much in the way of vids and the demo as i can and i mostly read/post in these threads because i enjoy reading the banter or because ive bought the game and cant understand why i cant carry two simple torches.
Anyway.........
I have no bad feeling towards you or anybody , to me this is a pub conversation and all meant in either pure seriousness or pure jest you can take your pick it doesnt matter to me either way its all good fun.
just for the quote though
Expectation is based on (at least should) on logic, if something always fail, you expect that it will fail again.
Science is fucked then.
If you didn't care you wouldn't waste the time to post quite lengthy messages.
So maybe you don't care THAT much, but you do care
Why wasn't there such backlash when the Exiled Prince DLC was announced for Dragon Age 2? Isn't it the same thing as this Prothean team member shit? A whole character with his own quest and even romance options omg specific party interactions was sold with the Digital Deluxe Edition and separately.
Why wasn't there such backlash when the Exiled Prince DLC was announced for Dragon Age 2? Isn't it the same thing as this Prothean team member shit? A whole character with his own quest and even romance options omg specific party interactions was sold with the Digital Deluxe Edition and separately.
The difference being, a "prince" isn't all that important to the plot and story line of Dragon Age 2. A LIVE PROTHEAN, a member of a species supposedly wiped out a millennia ago (for all intents and purposes, given that the Reapers turned them into Collectors), is most definitely an integral part of the ME world. Nothing about that character or storyline should be considered optional .. so to rip it from the game (as it obviously was, seeing as how the game ITSELF isn't even out yet) and then charge people extra in order to have that key part of the game and story is downright offensive and insulting. It wouldn't be so bad if it was like the Hammerhead stuff, free for 1st-time purchasers, but it's not.. it's only available to those who buy the massively overpriced CE or as a standalone external purchase.
"Here, you can buy 80% of the game for only €49.99! However! The rest will cost you another €10. Teehee! Enjoy"
Their excuse (the same one with the Exiled Prince DLC) is that the game went gold, and some of the dev staff continued to work on the game after that point. Hence, Day 1 DLC that couldn't be in the main game. But this ignores the fact that they must've had to take into account the story-ramification of the DLC, as well as the fact that, honestly, they could've just pushed the release date back. Whilst the first problem - the storyline effect of the Prothean - is obviously BioWare sucking hard, the forced release date is a consequence of EA wanting the game out for this financial quarter. Because EA are losing money by the ton, and need something to instill investor confidence every quarter.
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This is the first level after the beggining of the game (i.e. after first part of the demo). IGN editors just skipped all the non-pewpewpew fragments () so we can't actually tell if there are any. But... that kinda reddish color palette reminded me of ME1.
However, the most important thing in this video for me was... introduction of inventory screen so let's take a look at it now, shall we?
Spoiler:
Surprisingly, seems complex as fuck.
And some screenies from that ripped-off DLC 'From Ashes':
"Anatidaephobia is the fear that somewhere in the world there is a duck watching you."
Fuck Polish government for oppressing women!
"People are such awful conversationalists that they’ll interrupt you when you’re answering a question they asked."
You didn't get it obviously. A huge loss would indicate people are displeased with the way they do business so they're stopping to buy their products. That would make them change the way they work.
You didn't get it obviously. A huge loss would indicate people are displeased with the way they do business so they're stopping to buy their products. That would make them change the way they work.
A huge loss would make them cut back funding and sack possibly a few staff or stop funding games.
I still remember when they said the levels would be more open in ME3, they were right after all, they're still corridors but this time you can even see the sky!
You didn't get it obviously. A huge loss would indicate people are displeased with the way they do business so they're stopping to buy their products. That would make them change the way they work.
A huge loss would make them cut back funding and sack possibly a few staff or stop funding games.
/Idle Speculation/ I think the recent StarBreeze job losses are a sign that things aren't that rosy at EA. Yes, StarBreeze are an independent company, but you would've expected them to keep staff on in the hopes that EA would give them something else after Syndicate. But apparently not.
Otherwise... I think it all comes down to what the Q1 and Q2 2012 financial results are like. These quarters will see how much they can realistically expect to earn from TOR subscribers over the next few months, plus ME3, Syndicate, and (possibly) BF3 DLC. I don't think ME3 will deliver as much as they think it will, which means BioWare's status might be questioned. They've tried to make 2 franchises - DA and ME - and whilst the first parts of each sold well, I honestly think EA expected them to become the Modern Warfare of the RPG market - something that could have a sequel turned out every year and make lots of money. That won't happen - I'll bet good money on it - so it's whether or not BioWare will be left to develop games at their own pace (DA:O took them years to get to market, whilst DA2 took less than a year, and forced out the door by EA), or whether EA will drive them harder to make action games.
(Sorry - I'm getting both a better handle on the games industry, and studying for an accountancy qualification, so this is right up my street. )
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You didn't get it obviously. A huge loss would indicate people are displeased with the way they do business so they're stopping to buy their products. That would make them change the way they work.
I get your point, but a milti-billion company rarely works that way. If there are losses, money will be made by cutting back severely ("reorganizing" in a pretty word). Devs will probably be pushed harder, studios will be closed and the catalogue will be even staler. There's no way the EA honchos will suddenly say "okay guys we made a loss, we'll give you enough time and money now to properly develop a game".
I wont touch a thing bout, "i dont care if people thing im stupid"
So if you do exact the same thing, you will expect different results?
They are doing the same mistakes with Me3, same that they did on Me2. Game is way more streamlined.
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If you fail on science about some research and do the exact same research, you will fail again, thats why science works. You can every time, reproduce the same events, over and over again.
Basic example, what happens when you freeze water? It becomes solid.
Now if you cant freeze water, there must be something else on the water, like alcohol/ethanol (which takes lower temperatures to freeze) for example.
Dunno why im trying to make you see why you are wrong.
If EA has money problems, Mass Effect franchise definitely isn't the cause of that. Whatever you say about the game, it's pretty obvious it'll sell like hot cakes, just like the previous one did. If they suffer even deeper losses, they'll cut off everything that's new or even slightly ambitious (and can possibly blow up in their face if people don't like it) and start pumping out new Mass Effects and Battlefields - just like Activision does right now with CoDs.
Having said that, I'm all for voting with your wallet. If you don't like the game and don't think it's worth a purchase, then definitely don't buy it, save some cash, and give it to someone more deserving in your eyes.
Why wasn't there such backlash when the Exiled Prince DLC was announced for Dragon Age 2? Isn't it the same thing as this Prothean team member shit? A whole character with his own quest and even romance options omg specific party interactions was sold with the Digital Deluxe Edition and separately.
The difference being, a "prince" isn't all that important to the plot and story line of Dragon Age 2. A LIVE PROTHEAN, a member of a species supposedly wiped out a millennia ago (for all intents and purposes, given that the Reapers turned them into Collectors), is most definitely an integral part of the ME world. Nothing about that character or storyline should be considered optional .. so to rip it from the game (as it obviously was, seeing as how the game ITSELF isn't even out yet) and then charge people extra in order to have that key part of the game and story is downright offensive and insulting. It wouldn't be so bad if it was like the Hammerhead stuff, free for 1st-time purchasers, but it's not.. it's only available to those who buy the massively overpriced CE or as a standalone external purchase.
"Here, you can buy 80% of the game for only €49.99! However! The rest will cost you another €10. Teehee! Enjoy"
That's horrifying, if you ask me.
And then it turns out you can't even converse with your Prothean pal outside his loyalty quest. So he'll just be standing there in his room discussing his personal effects loudly whenever you look at them. OH THAT IS A BIN BALL IT WAS A SPORT THAT WE USED TO PLAY BACK IN MY DAY AND I REMEMBER WHEN MY SON OH WILLIE MY SON HOW I MISS YOU WE USED TO PLAY SO MUCH UNTIL THOSE REAPERS REAPED YOU OH SHEPARD THANK YOU FOR COMING IN HERE AND LISTENING TO MY TALE OF WOE TAKE ME NOW!
..... after everything we've seen of ME3 so far, that trailer? That was by far the least disappointing. It was actually.... well, it was actually rather intriguing.
I still remember when they said the levels would be more open in ME3, they were right after all, they're still corridors but this time you can even see the sky!
But will it be possible to bring down that sky?
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And the award for the cheesiest trailer of the month goes to:
Quite cheesy sometimes but generally good although special effects were done better IMO in one of those Half-Life 2 fan-made short-films.
"Anatidaephobia is the fear that somewhere in the world there is a duck watching you."
Fuck Polish government for oppressing women!
"People are such awful conversationalists that they’ll interrupt you when you’re answering a question they asked."
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..... after everything we've seen of ME3 so far, that trailer? That was by far the least disappointing. It was actually.... well, it was actually rather intriguing.
>_<
I don't know, I found it very hmm...corny and quite poor, but maybe it's just me
..... after everything we've seen of ME3 so far, that trailer? That was by far the least disappointing. It was actually.... well, it was actually rather intriguing.
>_<
I don't know, I found it very hmm...corny and quite poor, but maybe it's just me
maybe because you had the expectation that it's bad then you thought it was actually bad
apart from the kissing part, it was kinda good. But they could have just put there music from end of mission1 in demo. it was way better
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The little emoticon of the yellow guy smashing his head against the brick wall just doesn't do my feelings justice.
I can't even imagine how downright ludicrous ME3 is going to go with this "trend". Sigh.
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for the record , im not thinking about it too much
) so we can't actually tell if there are any. 
But... that kinda reddish color palette reminded me of ME1.
