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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 10:31    Post subject:
If you do and find everything and knock out everyone you'll get all but 2 praxis points required to fully upgrade the char. (and who needs Fortify anyway?)
I like it that way, didn't wanna miss anything on my first and only playthrough.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 10:47    Post subject:
Yeah, but I like it when good games inspire more than a single playthrough.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 11:00    Post subject:
Easiest way to do this would be to halve all the XP rewards you'll get. (There must be tables for it, 20-100 values that need changing)
But I don't know if thats even possible, the game doesn't seem to be very mod-friendly.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 11:03    Post subject:
I was thinking a 33% reduction should suffice. Trouble is that I've seen most of it already - so I need to forget all of it before playing again Smile

My biggest issue was the awkward nature of energy-regen. I can see why they wanted to restrict usage of powers - but they didn't do it in a clever way. A combination of fewer praxis points - and some significant changes to the energy powers would be ideal. Make it so you could have 2-3 energy cells self-replenish with the proper investment.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 11:22    Post subject:
But getting more cells to replenish would make the game easier right? On the maximum cloak level for example I think you get 5 or 7 seconds per cell which is enough for every situation. Between knockouts - patience Razz I used less than 10 protein bars for my whole playthrough (for double knockouts) Very Happy The rest I hoarded (inventory stacking mod)
Don't have it installed anymore and can't check but I think I got roughly a hundred bars and two dozen jars left Razz
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 11:41    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
But getting more cells to replenish would make the game easier right? On the maximum cloak level for example I think you get 5 or 7 seconds per cell which is enough for every situation. Between knockouts - patience Razz I used less than 10 protein bars for my whole playthrough (for double knockouts) Very Happy The rest I hoarded (inventory stacking mod)
Don't have it installed anymore and can't check but I think I got roughly a hundred bars and two dozen jars left Razz


The idea is that it's easier if you spend the right points on the right powers - but then you'd miss out on other powers.

I wouldn't mind it being harder in other ways - but I don't see how at this point.

It's just that cloaking and "double-takedowns" and so on - can't be executed with just 1 cell. So you have to constantly consider whether you should use energy bars - and it makes you very conservative. Even if you DO have lots of energy bars - you end up saving them - because you "never know" when they'll come in handy. That's counterproductive to the empowering feeling you should be having as that character. Also, they take up huge amounts of inventory space. It's just bad design all-round.

It's not like the game is hard as such because of this - because for every challenging situation there's a way to handle it with relative ease.

I just don't like having to be conservative in a Deus Ex game. I want to use my powers Smile
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shole




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 12:06    Post subject:
energy regen was fine
it forces you to use cloaking only when necessary and only in short sprints
i never upgraded the batteries either.. it's so useless when only one recharges
i just bite on a snack if there's multiple opponents i need to knock out in a row
there should have been an (expensive)upgrade that would allow more than one battery to regen
this isn't really an "empowerment" game - i play painkiller for that
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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2012 12:19    Post subject:
Then go play Painkiller - and let me have my mod so I can enjoy DE3 even more Smile

Oh, and about that energy upgrade - that's exactly what I suggest above.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:14    Post subject:
A nice 66% off ATM Smile

http://store.steampowered.com/app/28050/

Not bad.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:18    Post subject:
Jesus... five euros. That's a spectacular offfer! Honestly, the more people buy this game the more it supports companies like Eidos Montreal. DX:HR blew us all away with how great it was, despite earlier reservations and concerns. Now I don't feel so worried that they're the ones making Thief 4 (except that utterly retarded name, of course, Thi4f? Really? Laughing)

Just hurry up and bring more DX content! Very Happy
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:43    Post subject:
I wish they'd make an enhanced edition like CDPR.
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garus
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:51    Post subject:
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:53    Post subject:
If it sells very well the dev studio will get more leeway. I know publishers are evil and eat puppy brains, but I doubt a game selling by the gazillions doesn't give a dev studio more respect internally.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:53    Post subject:
Yeah, but Eidos is usually pretty good... usually.. and hey, this would show that games such as DX:HR really do sell.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 14:54    Post subject:
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mike-




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 16:38    Post subject:
snagged me the missing link all these months later, despite loving the original game.

did not feel compelled to pay 15 bucks or whatever for 4-6 hours of content, but so far so good =P
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Feb 2012 17:11    Post subject:
Wish they would have put some stats at the end or something. To let you know how many people you knocked out, killed, etc. Accuracy. Doors/terminals hacked. Whatever.

I have to admit it was pretty fun bowling down 15 or so crazies at a time with the PEPS on that last level. Or dropping a gas mine in front of me and watching them pile up as they charged me. Smile
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hellspinner




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Feb 2012 17:09    Post subject:
Its there a 1.3.643 working crack?
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Feb 2012 17:34    Post subject:
No.

TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 02:48    Post subject:
hellspinner wrote:
Its there a 1.3.643 working crack?

Hmm, doesn't the Blizzard update release work ?

I just googled and saw some torrents named :
Deus.Ex.Human.Revolution.1.3.643.update.-BLiZZARD

Probably fake shit.
Confused
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mroussev




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 09:32    Post subject:
Fake.There is no crack for 1.3.643.
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fuckit
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 20:21    Post subject:
mroussev wrote:
Fake.There is no crack for 1.3.643.


well... shit and i had just talked myself into bothering to play this again to see how much i could get the ghost thing for through it, been watching let's plays of and.... i don't know what it is, i know how screwed up hard it is trying to be stealthy through all those missions but... i wanted to try.

not sure i'm gonna bother though if i can't find a cracked update.
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:10    Post subject:
fuckit wrote:
mroussev wrote:
Fake.There is no crack for 1.3.643.


well... shit and i had just talked myself into bothering to play this again to see how much i could get the ghost thing for through it, been watching let's plays of and.... i don't know what it is, i know how screwed up hard it is trying to be stealthy through all those missions but... i wanted to try.

not sure i'm gonna bother though if i can't find a cracked update.


its a very minor update, the big ones before that are all cracked
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fuckit
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:14    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
fuckit wrote:
mroussev wrote:
Fake.There is no crack for 1.3.643.


well... shit and i had just talked myself into bothering to play this again to see how much i could get the ghost thing for through it, been watching let's plays of and.... i don't know what it is, i know how screwed up hard it is trying to be stealthy through all those missions but... i wanted to try.

not sure i'm gonna bother though if i can't find a cracked update.


its a very minor update, the big ones before that are all cracked


any chance you could copy pasta the changelog? Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:16    Post subject:
Heh, there's nothing hard about stealthing in this game - in fact, that was the main complaint about the game when it launched; how laughably easy it is if you only play stealth. Everything is a one-hit kill/stun, you get more exp, the AI is easy to fool. If you want to play it hard; shoot people. Seriously.. gungho in DXHR is a surefire way to wear out your F8 key Very Happy
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fuckit
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:19    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Heh, there's nothing hard about stealthing in this game - in fact, that was the main complaint about the game when it launched; how laughably easy it is if you only play stealth. Everything is a one-hit kill/stun, you get more exp, the AI is easy to fool. If you want to play it hard; shoot people. Seriously.. gungho in DXHR is a surefire way to wear out your F8 key Very Happy


i'll give you that, but... to a point in some rooms it just wasn't feasible, just the amount and overlapping sight cones of enemies as well as their placement, i remember at least 3 or 4 rooms i wondered how stealth was supposed to be possible if at all in them and none were the boss encounters, of course Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:22    Post subject:
Egh, those boss encounters... Sad
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fuckit
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:25    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Egh, those boss encounters... Sad


yeah i know, did they ever get fixed by the way?

also, i think it's worth mentioning, i'm not gonna be going for melee stealth if i do this, sure it'll inevitably happen sometimes but i don't want to just q everyone to sleep, haven't decided whether i should go for a silenced pistol mainly or the stun gun.

that reminds me actually, i can't say i remember having checked, but... non lethal guns aren't upgradeable or am i wrong there? or maybe just the stun gun?
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:32    Post subject:
fuckit wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Egh, those boss encounters... Sad


yeah i know, did they ever get fixed by the way?

No Razz , but the next (?) Deus Ex game won't have them, that's for sure
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/07/deus-ex-designer-quot-truly-sorry-quot-for-human-revolution-39-s-boss-fights.aspx
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Mar 2012 21:32    Post subject:
Naw, nothing ever changed with those boss fights, still the same silly out-of-place nonsense they always were :\ As for non-lethal weapons, you can buy/upgrade the tranq rifle .. though the P.E.P.S and the stun gun aren't upgradeable.
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