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vaifan1986
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 Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:35 Post subject: I may own a stolen bike |
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I bought my bike 10 years ago from a coworker while I was working as a lifeguard. I bough it with my first real paycheck and was so proud to be able to buy something with my own hard earned cash.
It's an awesome red bike, and the price while cheap to most people was high to a 15 year old kid. So it never occured to me it could be stolen.
So anyway, I was at barber shop today, my bike chained outside, when a guy started to check it out. When I was done, I went outside and he said he thought it was his bike. It was a weird moment. I have never felt bad for any game, song or movie I have downloaded, but suddenly I felt a huge guilt over the mere possibility that I had bought a stolen bike.
And he was really polite, we exchanged information. And the next step is getting the police involved. I imagine I'll be getting a call soon or even a visit.
Also, he said that his bike got stolen a year and half ago and didn't have those curved handlebars, which mine did, but got broken by my friend 2 weeks after I had bought the bike.
So there exists a chance that it really isn't his bike. And even though I know I probably won't have legal repercusions even if it does turn out to be his bike, somehow the sense of guilt is still there, just the thought of owning a stolen bike made me feel guilt that I haven't felt for all those terabytes of data I stole. Weird.
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dsergei
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:38 Post subject: |
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Why would you feel any guilt unless you knew or suspected it was stolen at the time of the purchase?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:42 Post subject: |
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Unless it has his postcode or whatever stamped on it with that special ink crap, how the chuff is he going to prove its his bike? Beware he could just be trying to scam you.
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:46 Post subject: |
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| dsergei wrote: | | Why would you feel any guilt unless you knew or suspected it was stolen at the time of the purchase? |
I have no idea. I really didn't think it was stolen. The guy I bought it from was much older than me,and a good guy, and I didn't question where or when he bought it. The bike looked new and shiny.I wanted it.
Really stupid, I know. But I wasn't using the upper brain that much in those days.
Somehow the implication that I was the one that actually stole it from his house is the same as buying it from the guy who possibly stole it in the first place, is the same in my mind.
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:48 Post subject: |
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| Reg67 wrote: | | Unless it has his postcode or whatever stamped on it with that special ink crap, how the chuff is he going to prove its his bike? Beware he could just be trying to scam you. |
The bike has a serial code etched under its mainframe. But what doesn't make sense is that he said that it got stolen a year and a half ago, but I've been driving it for 10 years already.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:49 Post subject: |
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Don't feel bad mate you did'nt know................ By the way do you wanna buy a TV? It's very shiny.. I think you want it....
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Mutantius
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 15:55 Post subject: |
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It's obviously not his bike, not in any way, since you've had it 10x longer than his has been missing - so don't even consider giving in. Let the police handle it now.
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cobALT
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 16:49 Post subject: |
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...So you feel bad for buying a bike 10 years ago that was stolen 1 and a half years ago...
Anyway if i bought anything stolen i'd me more pissed off a the guy who sold it to me...
EDIT:
Also you bought the bike in "good faith"
Also you have probably acquired it by now... (usually 5 years for movable assets)
EDIT2:
Why am i writing this since it clearly isn't the guys bike!!!
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 17:23 Post subject: |
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10 years ago! Why would anyone care about a bike that old. Seriously. Even if it was worth a grand ten years ago, it would barely be worth 100 now, if that.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 17:55 Post subject: |
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That guy is just grasping at straws and getting desperate. This is just deplorable behaviour on his part. But you really acted like a mature person vaifan 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 18:28 Post subject: |
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cobALT
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Mar 2012 20:16 Post subject: |
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Had my bike stolen last fall here in the UK. First time i've ever had anything stolen from me worth that much. Fuckers broke into my shed and nabbed it.
Worked out OK for me though because I only paid $900 for the bike used back in the states, and the insurance company gave me $1400 for it since that was the 'new' price.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 02:22 Post subject: Re: I may own a stolen bike |
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It really isn't his bike mate, I mean, it's technically impossible. *me points at cobALT's post* 
But the most important aspect that we need to focus on and investigate is:
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fisk
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 08:31 Post subject: |
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This story is so intricate and full of confusion that I call bullshit.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 10:00 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | This story is so intricate and full of confusion that I call bullshit. |
Look I know it sounds weird, but it's what happened. Why would I invent such a boring fucking tale?
If and when the cops contact me, I'll post the official record they have to keep and give me a copy.
And as far as my guilt is concerned, I've never broken a law in my life(if you don't count downloading stuff), and to be accused of going into someones house and stealing was an insult to my integrity. So even if I know it can't be his bike because of the time discrepancy, it still wormed its way inside my head.
I posted it here because I needed a place to vent, not to disturb the delicate nature of the hump, or to ruffle your feathers fisk, so with all due respect, fuck off.
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spankie
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 10:24 Post subject: |
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You are not sure it was stolen. So maybe the guy genuinely fixed a bike from scrap parts and sold it to you. Or maybe he sold his dad's bike because his dad bought a new one or ... You don't know all of that.
Plus, you were 15, it is 10 years ago and it was a bike. I am pretty sure you have other things you are regretting more than possibly having bought a stolen bike when you were a teenager.
You are actually being a cunt yourself vaifan. You say you have never been accused of doing something illegal, and you kindly ignore downloading. Making your own set of rules is easy if you want to comply with them. Well, i am pretty sure you have seen the warnings in the cinema or on tv that downloading is stealing. You kindly ignore that law. I am pretty sure you have stolen something somewhere. Or are you kind of person who goes to a shop and buys 6$ of stuff, pays 20 bucks, gets back 44 and says "Miss, you made a mistake?". I am quite sure you have been drunk and got out, which is illegal as well 'drunk in public'. I am pretty sure you have ever driven faster than 120 on the highway. So, yeah you can say you have never done anything illegal in your self defined world of illegality...
Don't really understand why you are upset if someone is calling you a thief, the guy was probably only trying to score a free bike. Are you the same when someone else calls you something else? If you are walking and you accidentally hit a guy with your shoulder when passing and he calls you a motherfucker, what do you do? I would personally say something like "yeah your mother" and we both let it pass. Nobody would give a fuck, 2mins later i could be drinking a beer with the guy.
Get over it and grow some sack man. Who gives a fuck what someone else thinks. Even I bought it from the thief who stole it from him 2 weeks ago, I wouldn't care it was his. You bought it in good faith, and he lost his bike. Well too bad, get over it.
I've had my apartment robbed completely empty 2 times and I live in good neighbourhood Belgium. I actually caught the same thief the next day breaking into my neighbour's apartment. Called the cops, they took him with them, he never got convicted for the shit he stole in my apartment although he had bag full of stolen shit of the neighbours and my key to my apartment, 'circumstantial evidence' (for the record, the guy stole the keys to all the apartments from the landlord's private residence, gotta love that...). That's what happens, do you think i liked it that i got robbed? Hell no. But it has been almost 2 years now since it happened the last time. Do i still feel crappy about it? Nah, that's what happens in life. You win some, you lose some. You can't have a perfect life, we all make mistakes, we all lose something somewhere, we all go through crap.
So stop whining. Why would you feel crap if the real victim of your possible thievery probably doesn't even remember his possible bike got possibly stolen. Lots of possibles there...
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vaifan1986
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 10:36 Post subject: |
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| spankie wrote: | You are not sure it was stolen. So maybe the guy genuinely fixed a bike from scrap parts and sold it to you. Or maybe he sold his dad's bike because his dad bought a new one or ... You don't know all of that.
Plus, you were 15, it is 10 years ago and it was a bike. I am pretty sure you have other things you are regretting more than possibly having bought a stolen bike when you were a teenager.
You are actually being a cunt yourself vaifan. You say you have never been accused of doing something illegal, and you kindly ignore downloading. Making your own set of rules is easy if you want to comply with them. Well, i am pretty sure you have seen the warnings in the cinema or on tv that downloading is stealing. You kindly ignore that law. I am pretty sure you have stolen something somewhere. Or are you kind of person who goes to a shop and buys 6$ of stuff, pays 20 bucks, gets back 44 and says "Miss, you made a mistake?". I am quite sure you have been drunk and got out, which is illegal as well 'drunk in public'. I am pretty sure you have ever driven faster than 120 on the highway. So, yeah you can say you have never done anything illegal in your self defined world of illegality...
Don't really understand why you are upset if someone is calling you a thief, the guy was probably only trying to score a free bike. Are you the same when someone else calls you something else? If you are walking and you accidentally hit a guy with your shoulder when passing and he calls you a motherfucker, what do you do? I would personally say something like "yeah your mother" and we both let it pass. Nobody would give a fuck, 2mins later i could be drinking a beer with the guy.
Get over it and grow some sack man. Who gives a fuck what someone else thinks. Even I bought it from the thief who stole it from him 2 weeks ago, I wouldn't care it was his. You bought it in good faith, and he lost his bike. Well too bad, get over it.
I've had my apartment robbed completely empty 2 times and I live in good neighbourhood Belgium. I actually caught the same thief the next day breaking into my neighbour's apartment. Called the cops, they took him with them, he never got convicted for the shit he stole in my apartment although he had bag full of stolen shit of the neighbours and my key to my apartment, 'circumstantial evidence' (for the record, the guy stole the keys to all the apartments from the landlord's private residence, gotta love that...). That's what happens, do you think i liked it that i got robbed? Hell no. But it has been almost 2 years now since it happened the last time. Do i still feel crappy about it? Nah, that's what happens in life. You win some, you lose some. You can't have a perfect life, we all make mistakes, we all lose something somewhere, we all go through crap.
So stop whining. Why would you feel crap if the real victim of your possible thievery probably doesn't even remember his possible bike got possibly stolen. Lots of possibles there... |
You're right. I shouldn't be upset. But for some reason I was. And I know downloading is stealing, I wasn't trying to justify myself. But the guys said the bike got stolen from his house, implying that I actually broke in and took it. And while legally it isn't, in my mind it's different than clicking a few mouse buttons.
I'm no longer upset about what happened, I got pissed at fisk for calling the story bullshit. Like I have the time, energy or willpower to come up with a boring story like that.
Oh, and apologies fisk, didn't mean it  . I'm a sensitive soul, just ask Ixi and Toni, they can tell you first hand, if you know what I mean.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 11:13 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 11:56 Post subject: |
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Some of the weirdest shit i read around here lately 
Empty again 
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Mar 2012 12:32 Post subject: |
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Oooouuuuu watch out man you might end up in jail...
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