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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 17:09    Post subject:
This is how I see my future computing. Easy to set up; underlying architecture is never at risk; guest machines are always isolated; several guest machines run independently; Guest machine states are a step away from restore; etc. VTd makes it 80% toward that goal.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 17:19    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
This is how I see my future computing. Easy to set up; underlying architecture is never at risk; guest machines are always isolated; several guest machines run independently; Guest machine states are a step away from restore; etc. VTd makes it 80% toward that goal.
Don't get me wrong but what's the point of that?

Do you experience problems like that driver problem that you've mentioned that frequently that you need to have a system set up like that? Scratch Head


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 17:29    Post subject:
No, but since all this can be made transparent, this sounds to me like the perfect computing world I want to have. Never fear virii, never fear malware. Downloaded that risky shit EXE? No worries, just make a snapshot before running it. It means I can live worry free. And since guest machines have direct access to the hardware, I don't have to fear some rogue software that might somehow jailbreak its way outside of the guest machine. It also gives me the option to run several machines at native speed with no need for mutli-boot. Just suspend one machine and run the other.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 17:31    Post subject:
jesus christ, you guys think i'm serious on the silliest things, but it is sort of 50/50 with ebay, i personally won't buy from them, but.... in theory there's real reason not to, there is the fact that it basically invented a new way to e-scam though.

as for the oddball memory amount... i don't know, it's a minor niggle at most honestly but... it just seems like it could be a red flag when you see non-whole GB numbers like that, i admit it probably won't matter though.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:09    Post subject:
Let me know if the package goes "through" ;D
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:10    Post subject:
The only thing that worries me is DOA. Sad
Took a risk, let's see. grinhurt
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:12    Post subject:
It won't DOA. What are the odds.... Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:14    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Just ordered http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-EVGA-02G-P4-2682-KR-Superclocked-GeForce-GTX-680-2GB-GDDR5-PCI-Express-/261011092924?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cc57935bc Me Gusta

I guess I'll be able to play them console portz and Risen 2 and Max Payne 3 smoothz. Pffchh Laughing

Congrats Leo Screens pls grinhurt (I don't have any useful advice though, since..well my knowledge on new hardware is close to zero xD)
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:22    Post subject:
God damn... everybody is getting 680s lately, huh? Sad Ah well.. I still wuv my 570 So Much Win
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:23    Post subject:
honestly wouldn't consider that one a risk since it's coming with a 3 year manufacturer warranty at any rate.

lucky bastard
yes i'm still bitter i can't blow $529 on one... Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:27    Post subject:
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God damn... everybody is getting 680s lately, huh? Sad Ah well.. I still wuv my 570 So Much Win

Well



We want to play Risen 2 40fps smooth Rolling Eyes I guess you didn't see that [amazing graphics], did you?






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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:29    Post subject:
That "Of Course!" gets me every single time
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:41    Post subject:
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God damn... everybody is getting 680s lately, huh? Sad Ah well.. I still wuv my 570 So Much Win


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Even my old GTX 295 was far better than that! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:44    Post subject:
Far better than what? A GTX570? Scratch Head
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:45    Post subject:
Risen 2 is promised to run at a steady 30 fps on ze xbox lol wut
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:46    Post subject:
295 is a 280 SLI? It could be better in certain games but not in most, and certainly not in most new games until SLI profiles come up. FUCK THAT SHIT!
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:47    Post subject:
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Risen 2 is promised to run at a steady 30 fps on ze xbox lol wut

Fuck off troll, clearly they need the performance becauz PC is more amazomg and xbox is shit and ... there are many pc parts and only one xbox ... and piracy, that for sure hsa something to do with it. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:50    Post subject:
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Far better than what? A GTX570? Scratch Head


I had a GTX 295 for quite a long time, before purchasing my GTX 680 I tried a couple of cards.

The GTX 570 was one of them, in games such as Battlefield 3, for example, I got an average of +15 fps with the GTX 295 when compared with the GTX 570 with the same config.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 18:53    Post subject:
I strongly doubt that, but I'm not going to bother arguing Razz Besides, no DX11/Tessellation support on the 295 - so it's not comparable.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:03    Post subject:
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I strongly doubt that, but I'm not going to bother arguing Razz Besides, no DX11/Tessellation support on the 295 - so it's not comparable.


http://www.hwcompare.com/9035/geforce-gtx-295-vs-geforce-gtx-570/

The differences in the bench that you posted are in the order of 4-8 Fps difference in favor of the GTX 570, not a huge difference between both, but only perhaps of the factor of the GTX 570 being a DX11 card.

From personal experience, I got better results with my GTX 295 than with the GTX 570.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:03    Post subject:
I'm sure you do. I'm not going to bother arguing Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:06    Post subject:
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I'm sure you do. I'm not going to bother arguing Razz


Arguing over 4-8 theoretical FPS is meaningless, not when the GTX 680 puts to shame those two cards together! Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:16    Post subject:
But Sabon's 2500 is better at gaming than your CPU, so he probably does get better FPS. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:18    Post subject:
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But Sabon's 2500 is better at gaming than your CPU, so he probably does get better FPS. Smile


What Derprin also failed to see was that the 295 in the Tom's benchmark (HWCompare... trolol) is running DX10 mode. The 570? DX11+Tessellation. 570 is doing significantly more work than the 295 and *still* higher framerate. Add that to the derpy, unfounded and unsubstantiated claim of "I got +15fps more"

... well... chortle. Oh well, delusions are strong and often hard to break Laughing I don't really care, I just found it a funny claim. I'm just glad I can run Risen 2 grinhurt
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:20    Post subject:
Oh shit.... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Noooooooo.... I made a mistake oh shit! Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:23    Post subject:
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Oh shit.... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Noooooooo.... I made a mistake oh shit! Sad


What mistake?? What happened? Neutral Did you order the wrong part by accident?
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:25    Post subject:
I didn't take into account any AMD products and just went for the superior nVidia hardware instead without giving it a thought. Cool Face Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:25    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
iNatan wrote:
But Sabon's 2500 is better at gaming than your CPU, so he probably does get better FPS. Smile


What Derprin also failed to see was that the 295 in the Tom's benchmark (HWCompare... trolol) is running DX10 mode. The 570? DX11+Tessellation. 570 is doing significantly more work than the 295 and *still* higher framerate. Add that to the derpy, unfounded and unsubstantiated claim of "I got +15fps more"

... well... chortle. Oh well, delusions are strong and often hard to break Laughing I don't really care, I just found it a funny claim. I'm just glad I can run Risen 2 grinhurt


Laughing

You might be correct, as I've said, I based my argument on my past experience with both cards, with my i7 920 CPU, but even considering the benchmarks you posted, the GTX 570 is only slightly faster than the GTX 295, not an astronomically significant difference.

There's a greater difference between the GTX 570 and GTX 590 than between the GTX 295 and the GTX 570.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Apr 2012 19:26    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
I didn't take into account any AMD products and just went for the superior nVidia hardware instead without giving it a thought. Cool Face Laughing


Actually, respect where it's due... the 7970 seems to be storming right now. Granted it doesn't really compare all that well to the GTX680, but for the price? That's a damned fine card and I most likely would have gone with that over my 570 if the 7970 was out at the time. You've still made the right choice though, undoubtedly. The 680 is scary fast Very Happy
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