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sueil




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2005 19:24    Post subject:
SoSBigperm wrote:
Maybe the Guildwars keys are harder to get since there covered in the package. When my GW came it was like a scratch a win ticket to get the cd-key.

Does the BF2 key come covered up(Under a scratch pad)? Or is it like a standard CD-KEY on the back of the jewel case?


These Key sites seem very very shaddy. I just cant see the software companies condoning them. But if they work and are not illegal, go for it.
I prefer to have the boxed copy.


Read the thread and it's explained. They buy from overseas suppliers where the games are sold cheaper. The keys work on all copys. This isnt anyone opening boxes at Wal-Mart. How else would Gamekeystore gotten 300+ keys for Battlefield 2?
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Daz




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2005 19:29    Post subject:
Anyone know any online cd-key stores which sell keys for World of Warcraft?
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internal_storm




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2005 21:13    Post subject:
Daz wrote:
Anyone know any online cd-key stores which sell keys for World of Warcraft?



There really is none. World of Warcraft is one of those pristine things that isn't even sold in Thailand yet... and when it is will be limited to the Thai servers only.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2005 21:49    Post subject:
Daz wrote:
Anyone know any online cd-key stores which sell keys for World of Warcraft?

https://gamersloot.net/catalog/index.php?cPath=133

price is higher than a store thou.


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internal_storm




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 08:16    Post subject:
19 BF2 are left until more come in next week. Thanks for all the orders, delivering is done tomorrow for orders placed yesterday and Friday for those placed today.
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l0newolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 14:33    Post subject:
sueil wrote:
SoSBigperm wrote:
Maybe the Guildwars keys are harder to get since there covered in the package. When my GW came it was like a scratch a win ticket to get the cd-key.

Does the BF2 key come covered up(Under a scratch pad)? Or is it like a standard CD-KEY on the back of the jewel case?


These Key sites seem very very shaddy. I just cant see the software companies condoning them. But if they work and are not illegal, go for it.
I prefer to have the boxed copy.


Read the thread and it's explained. They buy from overseas suppliers where the games are sold cheaper. The keys work on all copys. This isnt anyone opening boxes at Wal-Mart. How else would Gamekeystore gotten 300+ keys for Battlefield 2?


heh, thats not the point tho.
i cant imagine this being legal, at all.
publicly spamming this on a major nfo site isn't the best idea to keep it alive either methinks, but hey, whatever floats your boat Smile
and about world of warcraft, forget it Smile even if you do get an account somewhere, you still have to pay for it each month.
i dont wanna nag or anything but some people really go trough a lot of effort to save a few bucks. you pay maybe half of the normal amount for just the key, and when its patched you have to wait a week or more for the cracked patch (DOX are taking ages these days...), and when the game gets older groups won't give a rats ass anymore & skip the patch even longer. why not save yourselves the trouble of it all & just buy it if you enjoy it that much Smile
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sueil




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 20:57    Post subject:
That's why you get clone releases. I paid 30 dollars less for my BF 2 key then if I bought it retail. I never need to worry about patches. Pretty good deal I think.
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qda




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 21:04    Post subject:
i got a BF2 key on ebay, 1 dollar more expensive than GKS...
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Bigperm




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 22:09    Post subject:
sueil wrote:
SoSBigperm wrote:
Maybe the Guildwars keys are harder to get since there covered in the package. When my GW came it was like a scratch a win ticket to get the cd-key.

Does the BF2 key come covered up(Under a scratch pad)? Or is it like a standard CD-KEY on the back of the jewel case?


These Key sites seem very very shaddy. I just cant see the software companies condoning them. But if they work and are not illegal, go for it.
I prefer to have the boxed copy.


Read the thread and it's explained. They buy from overseas suppliers where the games are sold cheaper. The keys work on all copys. This isnt anyone opening boxes at Wal-Mart. How else would Gamekeystore gotten 300+ keys for Battlefield 2?


Thanks Tips..lol I read all the post. Im just a sceptic. Hmm..how would they steel 300+ keys. Have you ever heard of a logistics company. Pallets and pallets of games.
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internal_storm




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Jul 2005 04:42    Post subject:
About it being legal...

I got e-mails from Ubisoft and Epic Games, and have never heard back from them again after telling them what I was doing. I think that proves it's quite legal Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 03:22    Post subject:
So this is legal, and its legit then?


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qda




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 06:01    Post subject:
its legal, but really close to being not.. cause companies ONLY sell keys to high-rate of piracy countries, hoping to get some buck from it.. its not intended for sale in the west.. at least thats my theory...
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 17:47    Post subject:
http://www.gamekeystore.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29

This post has a response from the guy who runs the site. It seems legit.


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bnf




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 21:26    Post subject:
So if the games are not resold, what happens to all the excess cds/dvds, manuals and boxes? Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 21:42    Post subject:
Thrown out? Coasters? Kindling?


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 22:14    Post subject:
bnf wrote:
So if the games are not resold, what happens to all the excess cds/dvds, manuals and boxes? Razz


Its probably illegal to sell the hardware, or its in another language thus pointless Smile.. so yeah, being thrown out wouldnt be a waste as only the key is useful! Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 22:54    Post subject:
Games aren't that cheap in asia (if you don't buy them for 3$ on the flea market), so i still don't see how this business plan works, you have to pay for shipping and handling too. And the only contact info i found is a totally anonymous gmail address (besides the name you get if you whois the domain). I'm curious how long this will last.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 22:55    Post subject:
If you've ever seen those CD dresses Very Happy


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Selt




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jul 2005 23:07    Post subject:
there's no doubt selling (and so buying) cd keys that way is completely illegal, even if they buy retail boxes in thailandia or so...
asia versions have a sticker on them that say "asia version only, forbidden to sell in every other country" or something like that.

i suggest noone buys theese cdkey
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n00bCentral




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 03:45    Post subject:
SoSBigperm wrote:
Maybe the Guildwars keys are harder to get since there covered in the package. When my GW came it was like a scratch a win ticket to get the cd-key.

Does the BF2 key come covered up(Under a scratch pad)? Or is it like a standard CD-KEY on the back of the jewel case?


These Key sites seem very very shaddy. I just cant see the software companies condoning them. But if they work and are not illegal, go for it.
I prefer to have the boxed copy.


Ok, enough with the confusion here folks, here is the dish on GKS: it is one young man (age 16 - 28) in Midwest America. He lives very close to various Wal-Mart, Meijer, Best Buy, Circuit City and Target retail stores. He opens boxes at these retail stores and copies down the information (i.e., the cd-key). The chances of someone asking him, "What are you doing?" is fairly high as he visits the stores several times a week so he targets the stores that have a fairly lax "opening" policy. His excuse to any store employee that may walk up to him and ask him what exactly he is doing, is simply, "Copying down the game code so I can contact customer support. I accidently threw out my box when I bought this game last week."

Most employees will not recognize that he is actually stealing the CD-key for the game and will simply let him on his way, as it is not against store-policy to open a box to copy down some harmless information.

He uses a database program to store all the cd-keys he collects and sells them over time. Newer games are easy pickings as retail stores like Best Buy and Wal-Mart often carry large amounts. This guy gets the keys anyway he can. When WarCraft III came out, all he had to do was quickly peel off the sticker that held the cd-key on it. When Guild Wars came out, it was a little harder as he had to take the time to carefully and inconspicuously as possible, scratch off the lotto-ticket-style protective film over the cd-key. This made him nervous, as now he wasn't just copying down information, he was technically vandalizing the product; he knew that any store employee who caught him doing this, wouldn't think twice to take a closer look at the box. His chances of getting caught were higher and he was more nervous. There's your answer to why it took him so long to send you your Guild Wars key.

He purchases a domain-name and fairly simple file server and hosts his own key-selling site. After the 60 dollars for a whole year of domain and host costs paid off selling the keys for the game, it's pure profit.

So ladies and gents, there you have it. This man is a fairly young, inexperienced "social engineer". The choice to purchase the keys he sells, is of course your own.


dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 03:50    Post subject:
n00b, where'd you get this information from?


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n00bCentral




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 03:58    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
n00b, where'd you get this information from?


Eric pissed me off.


EDIT: BTW, he has various alter-ego's (e.g., the forums). He knows that if he makes his "business" look like it has more than one person running it, more people will be interested; he thinks it wont look like one guy trying to screw the "customer".


dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 04:04    Post subject:
I see.

So you've seen him do this or had him admit to it?


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n00bCentral




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 05:45    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
I see.

So you've seen him do this or had him admit to it?


He's been leeching games and stealing keys from stores to play online for a few years as far as I know, but only for personal use up until when he started the site.

I'm not saying don't buy from him, I'm just saying consider what you're paying for.


dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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internal_storm




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 07:36    Post subject:
Uhh n00bCentral, are you claiming you know me?

I also provide CD Key scans for Battlefield 2 if you want them. They are Thailand imports. I ordered another 100 in for Tuesday and orders are now open for those who have been waiting. And please, if you believe somebody named n00bCentral about me stealing hundreds of CD Keys, I assure you it's BS Wink
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n00bCentral




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 07:43    Post subject:
internal_storm wrote:
Uhh n00bCentral, are you claiming you know me?

I also provide CD Key scans for Battlefield 2 if you want them. They are Thailand imports. I ordered another 100 in for Tuesday and orders are now open for those who have been waiting. And please, if you believe somebody named n00bCentral about me stealing hundreds of CD Keys, I assure you it's BS Wink


Yeah, right, business is boomin' isn't it? You've sold probably, what, 40 keys by now? Ordering hundreds of games from Thailand and Asia. ROFLMAO


dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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internal_storm




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 07:55    Post subject:
n00bCentral wrote:
internal_storm wrote:
Uhh n00bCentral, are you claiming you know me?

I also provide CD Key scans for Battlefield 2 if you want them. They are Thailand imports. I ordered another 100 in for Tuesday and orders are now open for those who have been waiting. And please, if you believe somebody named n00bCentral about me stealing hundreds of CD Keys, I assure you it's BS Wink


Yeah, right, business is boomin' isn't it? You've sold probably, what, 40 keys by now? Ordering hundreds of games from Thailand and Asia. ROFLMAO


I've sold over 170 keys of BF2, around 420 orders since April when I started. Any more mindless questions? It's easy enough to go on eBay and find boxed import games from Thailand, if you've never stuck your head out of the cage they are there for much cheaper...
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 08:10    Post subject:
k internal, i asked valve if reselling cd keys is consider legal or not, and they answer

"as soon as we find someone with an activity like this on ebay we shut down him immediatly."
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internal_storm




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 08:12    Post subject:
Selt wrote:
k internal, i asked valve if reselling cd keys is consider legal or not, and they answer

"as soon as we find someone with an activity like this on ebay we shut down him immediatly."


I haven't had any e-mails from Valve... only Epic and Ubisoft and have had no further issues after replying to them. So, I can't speak for other companies Razz EA Games had a thread in there forums and a mod even said they would check with their legal team but that as far as he knew it was legal. I have had no contact with EA whatsoever so again I can't speak for them.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jul 2005 08:13    Post subject:
internal_storm wrote:
Selt wrote:
k internal, i asked valve if reselling cd keys is consider legal or not, and they answer

"as soon as we find someone with an activity like this on ebay we shut down him immediatly."


I haven't had any e-mails from Valve... only Epic and Ubisoft and have had no further issues after replying to them. So, I can't speak for other companies Razz EA Games had a thread in there forums and a mod even said they would check with their legal team but that as far as he knew it was legal. I have had no contact with EA whatsoever so again I can't speak for them.


i havent told valve... "hey look this site..." i only warned u
and btw considering that ubisoft is selling their games on direct 2 drive for 50 dollars, i dunno if their happy with brothers in arms key for 18 bucks...
i don't know how far this can go
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