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Ankh
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| Epsilon wrote: | | How long can a character be unused before it gets deleted? In diablo 2 I believe it was 3 months on battlenet? |
Uhm I think they announced that chars won't get deleted in D3. There will be no timelimit.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:25 Post subject: |
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Great then I can play whenever I have time 
Also it looks like that D3Dark is not something that will get you banned.
| Quote: | | @Dedisdead1 TOS against mods is so we can ban cheaters. I agree DarkD3 is not a cheat...yet. As long as it is not a cheat, no ban is likely. |
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Raccoon
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:28 Post subject: |
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| Epsilon wrote: | | Quote: | | @Dedisdead1 TOS against mods is so we can ban cheaters. I agree DarkD3 is not a cheat...yet. As long as it is not a cheat, no ban is likely. |
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Is this from Blizzard's forums? ^_^
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mtj
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:29 Post subject: |
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| TheRaccoon wrote: | | Epsilon wrote: | | Quote: | | @Dedisdead1 TOS against mods is so we can ban cheaters. I agree DarkD3 is not a cheat...yet. As long as it is not a cheat, no ban is likely. |
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Is this from Blizzard's forums? ^_^ |
Twitter I'd say
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:30 Post subject: |
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:31 Post subject: |
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Raccoon
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:38 Post subject: |
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garus
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:47 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:49 Post subject: |
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Nice . I'm genuinely surprised they listened to the people, usually they just ignore them 
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Pey
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:56 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | Well they changed their opinion quite fast. Must have been a serious shitstorm out there. |
He didnt change his opinion. All he did was referring to the TOS.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:58 Post subject: |
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What does he mean by "yet", though? Can DarkD3 be modified to become a speedhack or something? Or did he just add that word to be as vague as possible?
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 22:59 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | garus wrote: | | Well they changed their opinion quite fast. Must have been a serious shitstorm out there. |
He didnt change his opinion. All he did was referring to the TOS. |
... well, to be honest, he kinda did change his opinion. Earlier today, when specifically asked about DarkD3;
"Using programs that alter graphics is against TOS"
Now, when further questioned about DarkD3 and the graphics filter;
"TOS against mods is for cheats. I agree DarkD3 is not a cheat and as long as it is not a cheat it, no ban is likely"
Re-wording? Perhaps .. though I'm going to go ahead and take it to mean exactly what it says, and that's DarkD3/filter is not a cheat and isn't against TOS.
| Sauronich wrote: | | What does he mean by "yet", though? Can Dark3D be modified to become a speedhack or something? Or did he just add that word to be as vague as possible? |
People find all kinds of ingenious ways to perform their nefarious deeds, though I really don't think there's any way to cheat meaningfully in Diablo 3 by using a video filter. Had this have been a game where hiding and line-of-sight is key, such as an FPS or RTS, then yeah.. d3d9.dll could be made into a wallhack and the like. In Diablo 3 though, I just don't see what possible cheat application it could have. There's nothing kept out of sight, no fog of war, you can freely increase your resolution if you want (unlike D2 where you had to mod it and that wasn't allowed on open BNet) and even the enemies show up as red silhouettes when behind objects, so no hack needed there either.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:04 Post subject: |
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Think he means to say that even though Dark3D is against the TOS they just wont act on it cause it's not a cheat.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:05 Post subject: |
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just received my key and added it to bnet account, now its only waiting...
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:05 Post subject: |
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| VFik wrote: | | Think he means to say that even though Dark3D is against the TOS they just wont act on it cause it's not a cheat. |
Aye, that too ... though isn't Warden automated? How couldn't they act if Warden is going to take care of things automatically anyhow? Unless of course they add the filter to an exclusion list - at least until the day it becomes a viable cheat method :\
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:09 Post subject: |
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Basically what he's saying is that the current version of Dark3D won't get you banned, but since it can be upgraded to actually be a cheat, be careful and don't get a new "untested" version.
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D34Dite
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:12 Post subject: |
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wewt, install from 4.01pm UK, and playing tomorrow night (yea right) from 11.01pm UK FTW
when there is no more room in hell, the D34D will walk the earth
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:12 Post subject: |
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I think its just not worth it. First person to modify dark3d to do something that blizzard doesn't like, gets a bunch of other people banned because they can't distinguish who is using the modified version and the original. I think its an unneeded risk.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:17 Post subject: |
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It's not an unneeded risk if Blizzard perform CRC or MD5 checking. The legit inject_FXAA tool from Assembla uses the same d3d9.dll all the time, all that changes is the shader settings. If Blizzard make sure to hash that file and only that file, then anything modified would fail the check and would be actionable.
MD5: 1F3673BA2031861357E06FBB9EF2035F
CRC: 67A01906
All the official D3D9.DLL files used in inject_FXAA are the same, from ixi's old Amalur settings from 2011.. right up to the same files used in FXAAToolHg6.zip released in March 2012.
See, I HAVE given this some thought and I'm not just blindly bashing others for no reason, or expecting Blizzard to allow people to hack and cheat their way through the game. A little forethought and the most minuscule of effort on their part would go a huge way to preventing abuse ... one that's more acceptable to people rather than blanket "No! Use it and we ban you because we can't tell which is a cheat file and which isn't!"
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:20 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: |
People find all kinds of ingenious ways to perform their nefarious deeds, though I really don't think there's any way to cheat meaningfully in Diablo 3 by using a video filter. Had this have been a game where hiding and line-of-sight is key, such as an FPS or RTS, then yeah.. d3d9.dll could be made into a wallhack and the like. In Diablo 3 though, I just don't see what possible cheat application it could have. There's nothing kept out of sight, no fog of war, you can freely increase your resolution if you want (unlike D2 where you had to mod it and that wasn't allowed on open BNet) and even the enemies show up as red silhouettes when behind objects, so no hack needed there either. |
Just an example: https://graphics.stanford.edu/~mdfisher/GameAIs.html
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:22 Post subject: |
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as I was saying, unneeded risk for very little benefit (unless you are cheating, then possibly large benefit).
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| Posted: Sun, 13th May 2012 23:23 Post subject: |
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Very little benefit to you, a huge benefit to those of us that don't like headaches from trying to distinguish blurry visuals.
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i´ll use it then
