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| Pixieking wrote: | | http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-07-12-clint-hocking-joins-valve |
Pretty cool.  According to his linkedin profile he was the "Level Designer, Game Designer, Scriptwriter" of the original Splinter Cell and "Lead Level Designer, Scriptwriter, Creative Director" on Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2012 16:30 Post subject: |
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/07/12/how-steam-is-about-to-change-its-role/
| Quote: | While Valve have always encouraged developers to update their games frequently, those updates would previously need to be approved before they went live. They’re now changing to a new system, where developers can make updates live themselves, with no oversight from Valve.
What if your update breaks the game? Customers will tell you, and if you don’t hear them, Valve will tell you what customers are telling them. But ultimately, it’s the developer’s responsibility to check this stuff, release good updates, and fix anything that breaks. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2012 16:39 Post subject: |
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FANTASTIC!! Now this is more like it! Valve really are kicking their game up a notch this year, I love hearing about this kind of stuff.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2012 19:54 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2012 19:56 Post subject: |
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Yes because buggy updates never happen in the first place, because Valve does so much QA for everyone else's games, honest.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2012 20:02 Post subject: |
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They never did any serious testing before anyway. Plenty of games that got broken over faulty updates through the years. I assume they are now dropping even the basic "are the patch files corrupted?" test, which made them delay updates up to ~1 day before. Tbh it was meaningless.
Edit basically what Sabin said
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2012 20:29 Post subject: |
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| Shoshomiga wrote: | | This just opens the way for developers to release broken updates... guess valve doesn't wanna spend money testing the updates because its not their responsibility |
It's not so much a problem with Steam/Valve but with people's attitude. If they are lazy enough to fully rely on automatic updates instead of waiting for reactions and then manually updating later they are at fault, too. There have been enough patches breaking games in the past to be careful, proving me right to never rely on auto-patching anywhere.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jul 2012 04:02 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 04:05; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jul 2012 08:57 Post subject: |
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/15/3161651/valve-steam-software
Presumably it's a beta, since I can't find any "Index" or "genre" sections on my version of the app.
Pixieking
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jul 2012 09:15 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ |
Excellent! Hopefully their portings to Ubuntu will work just fine on my Linux Mint 13 install.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 12:15 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 04:05; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 12:36 Post subject: |
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Very cool. I think Steam for Mac is the reason so many games get Mac editions nowadays. It'll be very cool if the same happens for Linux. After all a Linux PC, is still a PC, so why not.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 15:56 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 15:58 Post subject: |
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The point is not having to dual boot all the time depending on what you want to do.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 16:00 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 16:03 Post subject: |
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..because there are no games. Which Valve hopes to change.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 16:05 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 16:12 Post subject: |
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I think an "average" user would not be using Linux a whole lot, so he is not the target audience. This is for people who DO use Linux, and may want to play a quick game without re-booting into another OS. It's easy to dual boot, but I sure as hell won't find it convenient to do it every time I want to play a game and then going back after I am done.
Fair point on the drivers though. Still someone has to make an effort and take the first step. If it becomes popular enough, I am sure the drivers will follow.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 16:25 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | I think an "average" user would not be using Linux a whole lot, so he is not the target audience. This is for people who DO use Linux, and may want to play a quick game without re-booting into another OS. It's easy to dual boot, but I sure as hell won't find it convenient to do it every time I want to play a game and then going back after I am done.
Fair point on the drivers though. Still someone has to make an effort and take the first step. If it becomes popular enough, I am sure the drivers will follow. |
Bingo.
| Shoshomiga wrote: | | Even if there were games, why would the average computer user use a difficult to use os (compared to windows/mac) to play games that will most likely have very bad performance due to custom nvidia/ati copyleft drivers |
According to the people behind Humble Indie Bundle the linux revenue ~= the mac revenue and the linux revenue + the mac revenue ~= 1/2 of the whole revenue. Not bad at all.
| Humble Indie Bundle wrote: | | If you support Mac and Linux as an independent developer you have a good chance of doubling your revenue. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 17:08 Post subject: |
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Nice to see you back Consolitis. Which website are you writing at nowadays?
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 17:14 Post subject: |
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Click
PS I am still not "back" yet.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 17:31 Post subject: |
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You were fired from here after you huge periods of inactivity! Btw, nice way to dodge the question. Sad that you aren't back yet.
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 17:45 Post subject: |
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No dodging, I am just not writing anywhere other than here.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 19:14 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: |
According to the people behind Humble Indie Bundle the linux revenue ~= the mac revenue and the linux revenue + the mac revenue ~= 1/2 of the whole revenue. Not bad at all.
| Humble Indie Bundle wrote: | | If you support Mac and Linux as an independent developer you have a good chance of doubling your revenue. |
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Keep in mind that I'm not saying I entirely disagree with you, but I think that bit of into is a little bit misleading. In my experience a lot of the crowd that uses linux, especially outside of programmers, is very... I guess maybe hipster might be the word. Basically they're the kind of people who sit there sipping a Starbucks latte and going on at length about how they were playing indie games before everyone thought it as cool, and how they'd never buy a major publisher video game.
So indie game buyers, as a group, are probably a lot more likely to be linux users than those who buy traditional retail games. And in that respect I don't think that all video games would benefit as much from linux sales.
Keeping that in mind, as well as the fact that most indie games aren't nearly as graphically demanding, I'm really hesitant to think that we'll see any major headway anytime soon on better drivers for linux. Not to mention the major way in which major game developers, ATi/Nvidia, and Microsoft are very much involved in making each other happy.
I could be wrong and we'll have serious game selections linux within a year or two, but I just don't see it heading that way. I think this is just Valve's way of expanding the indie game audience.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Jul 2012 19:19 Post subject: I have left. |
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