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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 09:32 Post subject: |
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Uh old news?
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 09:33 Post subject: |
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it's available since yesterday
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 09:34 Post subject: |
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Ah wait ye, they only announced it. my bad
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 09:44 Post subject: |
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played for 1 month, got my sith assasin to 50 moved to tomb of top european servers when transfers were enabled, completed story line, decked in bm gear, cleared like tank facerolling all hm flashpoints, dint have the time for ops. one read on mmosite for the fp strategy was enough. probably i completed half in group finder, half with the guild. some wipes because dps was not enough at some bosses, people in level 40 gear ftw. they should have the common sense to get at least their class recruit gear. btw, the one whitch have the ideea of teleporting the party on fleet after groupfinder, instead of where you were, should be burried alive.
pvp is funny, specced pvp tank i can hold my ground vs 3 people (non warhero) easy. could not kill any, but they could not cap objective either. my team had plenty of time to come and help.
the most funnyes moments was when me and a healer (bm geared both) we defend a point vs 6 people for like 5 minutes, until rest of the team bored arrived and killed all of them.
swtor is still very boring.
this was probably my last time i played, until it goes f2p. if it goes of course.
and probably at that time i will still play gw2/diablo 3  .
p.s.
game performance is still horible. and awfull loading times.
i used to have a movie, wow and 2 instances of eve online active perfectly working (dual monitors), with swtor i can barely have one movie without hiccups. and no, i will not get into a discution like hey, your "i7 sucks, get the unlock version and some liquid nitrogen, and you dont have a raid with 5 ssd and 128 gb of ram ? you poor sucker."
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Badrien
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 13:58 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: |
game performance is still horible. and awfull loading times.
i used to have a movie, wow and 2 instances of eve online active perfectly working (dual monitors), with swtor i can barely have one movie without hiccups. " |
You need a raid with 5 ssd and 128 gb of ram. you poor sucker.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 19:17 Post subject: |
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It still kills me they made this damn game a WoW clone. Why could it not have been more action oriented like Jedi Academy. Would have been GOTY for sure. Played beta till about 20 or so, got bored and cancelled my pre-order. I might check it out if it were F2P, but with GW2 and TL2 not too far off, I'm still stuck on D3 for some fucking reason or another... that and Max Payne 3. Also, starting to get back in to LoL after a few months break. The new Proving Grounds is pretty fun.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2012 19:58 Post subject: |
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i enjoyed it for what it was and liked the leveling experience more than wow, only downside is that it felt not MMO enough for me.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 08:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 09:29 Post subject: |
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Diablo 3 is ok at the start bit.once its completed its absolute tripe, how the hell that gane was in development is crazy.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 14:06 Post subject: |
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so, is the game interesting for people liking SW atmosphere ? My best game was Jedi Knight 2, lol, won't never forget this one.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 14:18 Post subject: |
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| Sertorius wrote: | | so, is the game interesting for people liking SW atmosphere ? My best game was Jedi Knight 2, lol, won't never forget this one. |
It's like KotOR with a huge mob-grind/travel-timesink between the good stuff.
So, take KotOR and stretch the content as far as is humanly possible - add multiplayer - and you have SWtOR.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 14:21 Post subject: |
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thx...will try when all files will be downloaded ( well...one day maybe, lol ).
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 14:37 Post subject: |
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i guess its fun for a few weeks but dont expect any kind of longevity or end game. If you're an SW fan Id say try it out
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 23:29 Post subject: |
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this summer is completely dry for single-player PC games once again, so I guess this one should fit well for August, especially it's half-free.
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| Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2012 12:01 Post subject: |
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| Sertorius wrote: | | this summer is completely dry for single-player PC games once again, so I guess this one should fit well for August, especially it's half-free. |
This, the game is great, but it is best at singleplayer. Only downside is it drags on during its 200 hour campaing and the leveling doesnt offer any chalange at all.
I played the free week, had fun but after 4 sessions and then it gets old a little, I will probably enjoy it again next week or next month.
The problem, since this is a casual mmo, is the subscription, I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a game i want to play once in a while, this just feels wrong. The should fix this (only charge days that you play for intance).
This is the problem with all mmo's btw, devs want a wow killer and copy there buisness model, but it is not very obvious that people want to play one game, all the time and pay a monthly fee.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 18:15 Post subject: |
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 18:17 Post subject: |
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Yeah, no shit the fans wanted KotOR and not KotR.. we all wanted another SP RPG epic that we'd grown used to, not this soulless WoW ripoff -- but like the article said; there's no way the three months between forum opening and then game launch was enough time for the fan feedback to "ruin" a game that has been in development for over FIVE YEARS. It's just sour grapes.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 18:20 Post subject: |
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When the ship sinks, put the blame on the fans! xD
We're lucky that it's a mmo otherwise they would have blamed piracy
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 18:22 Post subject: |
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whoever to blame, cant deny its more KOTOR than WOW
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 18:23 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 18:26 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | When the ship sinks, put the blame on the fans! xD
We're lucky that it's a mmo otherwise they would have blamed piracy |
Oh well, at least it's going F2P and then we can all play it. Problem, EA?  |
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 19:09 Post subject: |
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Good, now I can finally finish my playthrough as a Jedi Knight 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 19:43 Post subject: |
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haha awesome jackass that guy is, wants to remain annonymous, I wonder why you douche.. Why not say who he is/? What is he hiding from? You have no balls man. I laugh in your general direction. Counting down to F2P, and I prolly won't play it then either lol, fags, ea and bioware
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2012 19:50 Post subject: |
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If I get 1$ for every rumor i heard/read i be rich!
But I agree with BLuNT318 if that guy is sure about what he say, he could say who he is. No need to hide, (if he really exist off course) they will find out who it was soon enough.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2012 10:44 Post subject: |
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I didn't see this coming - especially after losing interest very quickly after trying the game again with the 7 day trial. But, for whatever inexplicable reason - I just really missed the Star Wars setting and wanted to give it an extra shot again. Probably mostly because I've decided GW2 is definitely not the next thing - and TSW will not have much replayability.
So, I created a free account and decided to check out the first 10 levels of the Sith Inquisitor storyline - and I was hooked
So - I re-subscribed.
Why? Because the game has clearly improved enough to warrant my coming back. Originally, I was devastated by the state of Ilum - and I was particularly dissatisfied with the performance of the Hero engine. It made PvP all but unplayable and totally unresponsive. Beyond that, I got to 50 with my Jedi Sentinel - and I was smacked in the face with the "endgame" grind of PvP valor progression and stuff I was already sick of playing WoW.
The game performs MUCH better now, and I can play PvP with literally no slowdowns. There's a group finder that works well - and that's great for a mostly solo-player like myself, because I rarely have the patience to get a group together for flashpoints. They also eliminated the valor grind and made the acquisition of Battlemaster bearable for a new player. They've introduced the Legacy system - and I guess I'm in the minority, but I think it's a great addition. It gives you a lot of convenience for doing alts - and the reason this isn't a terribly hollow way to keep you playing is that the game is THE strongest alt game in the themepark segment. The stories ARE great - and with the Legacy system you have more ways to skip the tiresome sidequests after having done them multiple times -and allow you to focus on the main story or levelling faster through the other activities. One might argue that they could just boost XP gain for all those parts of the game - but that would mean outlevelling content for new players - and there has to be a balance somewhere.
Many issues with the game, and the Hero engine in particularly. I think, at this point, the game is pretty functional and it has most of the necessary modern features to get people together and having fun while levelling and enjoying what endgame content there is. It should have launched exactly like it is now - and I'm sure it would have been a bigger player on the field. I'm hoping they're not quite as low on subscribers as many fear - because that would mean an almost impossible climb to the "really profitable" stage of subscribers.
I have absolutely nothing solid to base this on, but my "instincts" tell me they have between 250-500K subscribers. It would be lower if they didn't have such a great alt/levelling experience - and it would be higher if they weren't being so terribly quiet about the state of the game, and all the lay-offs.
Now, for how to improve the game and what to do with updates?
Lots of people are clamoring for more endgame content.
Personally, I don't find the prospect of more flashpoints or operations particularly exciting - especially not if it's just to push out more gear tiers. I LOATHE the concept of having to "catch up" everytime a new tier is released. I'd much rather have my character develop in other ways than just hunting new gear.
The gear progression IS necessary however - and I absolutely detest a fully flat progression curve - like in GW2. I WANT something to look forward to while levelling - and I love to see the game and my options expand. It's just that I also want to reach a point where I've been through most of the progression - and I can "enjoy my stuff".
This is exactly what the game DOESN'T have - and that's what I think it needs.
Two features, if implemented correctly, could add tremendously to the longevity of this game:
1. Freeform space segment with trading/PvP. Basically, add Freelancer/Privateer/Elite and combine it with X-Wing vs Tie Fighter. Then, expand upon the whole ship upgrade system and introduce a SEPARATE progression curve that's largely about your economy - making trading/cargo tranportation a vital aspect. You can imagine how that would introduce a brilliant stage for PvP with blockades and pirates, and so on. Yes, it would take a lot of work - but if they're smart, they'd develop this as a separate online game on the side - so as to justify the budget - and I promise you the current market would go wild for such a game.
2. Expanded PvP - especially Ilum and open world PvP. Make Ilum a desirable place to be - and make conflict desirable in itself. Give people a reason to kill each other - and give people a reason to stay in the area. It really shouldn't be that hard. Also, make sure you log major accomplishments for all participating players - because a simple feature like having your name established through your deeds can go a VERY long way for longevity and a competitive environment. Also, make the open world PvP on planets (for PvP servers, obviously) have more meaning - and encourage fair play over ganking. For instance, you could let people mark themselves as criminals/blackmarket people who would get extra rewards for doing quests or interacting with merchants - but by doing so, they'd be fair game for BOUNTY HUNTERS - where other players could gain a reward for hunting them down and defeating them. Do it in a smart way and ensure that only 1 vs. 1 scenarios could happen - or similarly fair setups. As in, once a bounty hunter marked his target - all other people would be prevented from engaging until a cooldown had passed or the target was dead. Something like that.
The stories are great and the cinematic appeal in TOR is fantastic for the genre. The engine, while really bad - has been tuned and polished to the point where you CAN have PvP with 16 people on screen and have it run smoothly. I'm sure something could be done to Ilum to create separate instances of 20v20 or 40v40 - without the game being run into the ground. At least, I hope so.
In any case, those two features are exactly what other strong themepark games don't have - and will likely never have. This is why SWtOR has the opportunity to claim this powerful gameplay segment and draw a lot of people to the game, that wouldn't otherwise touch it.
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