Who are the biggest players in the industry?
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:39    Post subject: Who are the biggest players in the industry?
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:41    Post subject:
How the hell can CDP only be worth $36m? That doesn't make any sense Shocked Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:43    Post subject:
I was surprised about Namco too..
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:44    Post subject:
The bigger they are, the more cancerous they get Razz



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Wondered why there wasn't even mention of Valve. Then read this

"We went through each company's financial earnings reports and took the net revenues each reported for its most recently completed fiscal year, then ranked them accordingly"

Explains it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:45    Post subject:
It seems to be mixing net revenue with company worth.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:46    Post subject:
Well Namco alone might be worth a lot less, but they're paired with Bandai.. one of the world's biggest toy manufacturers, not to mention being an American distributor of manga/anime, so that would bump their worth up a bit.

Pixieking wrote:
Wondered why there wasn't even mention of Valve. Then read this

"We went through each company's financial earnings reports and took the net revenues each reported for its most recently completed fiscal year, then ranked them accordingly"

Explains it.


Holy. Shit. Am I reading that right? That's even worse! So those are YEARLY revenues??


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:46    Post subject:
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How the hell can CDP only be worth $36m? That doesn't make any sense Shocked Sad

makes perfect sense, cdp is a young studio, previously they were involved in distributing the games, not making them. witcher 1 was half-decent at least, witcher 2 is obviously very good. they didnt make many games, they`re relatively "new" player on the market.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:47    Post subject:
No it doesn't make any sense. Their company, a publishing house AND developer, is only worth $36m? Yeah, right... no, it doesn't make any sense.
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Well Namco alone might be worth a lot less, but they're paired with Bandai.. one of the world's biggest toy manufacturers, not to mention being an American distributor of manga/anime, so that would bump their worth up a bit.


yeah , I googled them now..
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:51    Post subject:
dont argue, seriously. gaming market in poland isnt so big, sales are low, piracy is high etc, reality is a little bit different here, and lets be honest - as a developer they only have witcher 2 which didnt sold like X milions copies.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:52    Post subject:
Who do you think you are to tell me what to do? You already destroyed the NFO development stuff with your BS, you sure as hell ain't gonna sit there and tell me what to do Laughing The article has stated that these are net earnings for the year... so that makes more sense than saying the entire company is only worth $36m.
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as a developer they only have witcher 2 which didnt sold like X milions copies.


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-07-11-the-witcher-2-sells-4-million-units-worldwide


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:55    Post subject:
Don't argue, Pixieking. Seriously.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 17:57    Post subject:
Who do you think you are to tell me what to do?

Oh, wait.

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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
No it doesn't make any sense. Their company, a publishing house AND developer, is only worth $36m? Yeah, right... no, it doesn't make any sense.


Calm sabin, don't let us pull different matters into this.


This chart is big bullcrap though. Most of those estimates are always bullcrap. Some year ago Zynga was rated at 10 billion so what happened? Their balloon just popped.

Same will happen to others. As long as cdproject is able to pay it's workers and continue developing quality software they will grow. And who says that a good company HAS to be worth billions?


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:04    Post subject:
Sorry.. I'm calm, I just dislike being told what to do as if I'm some kind of fucking lackey. It grates on me. As for the article? Like Pixieking said; it's about reported net earnings - which makes a hell of a lot more sense than stating "CDP are only worth $36" Very Happy Saying they earned, net, $36m last year is understandable. It's also scary to think of companies like MS and Sony earning $70bn+

... just wow.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:08    Post subject:
Yeah, funny that they didn't add apple to that list... It's not like they don't any money from their appstore and hardware. Actually they have one of the most successful gaming hardware ever.. Even if it's just called a "phone" or "tablet".

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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:11    Post subject:
Some of these companies have so much income it's hard to wrap your head around. I do wonder why Apple wasn't on the list though, aren't publicly listed companies obliged to divulge their income?
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sabin1981 wrote:
Who do you think you are to tell me what to do? You already destroyed the NFO development stuff with your BS, you sure as hell ain't gonna sit there and tell me what to do Laughing The article has stated that these are net earnings for the year... so that makes more sense than saying the entire company is only worth $36m.


hahahah yeah ive destroyed it, one man army. oh well ~ keep it civilized - PA ~ sabin, butthurt much. glad i barely post here, your shitty comments are flying everywhere, is there even one person with more posts?. the best thing is the fact that i know that you will write some crap because u cant stand it, while i, with 400 posts clearly dont give fuck about nfohump, cheers.

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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:14    Post subject:
I don't know a lot but, as it has been pointed out several times now, the chart is about reported net income from the previous year. So, please, explain how it "makes sense" that CDP is only worth a total of $36m, despite that figure being the earnings of just one year?
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yea, like i wrote that. go troll somewhere else, someone else, mr numba one mastederp poster.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:26    Post subject:
no Valve Scratch Head


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 18:31    Post subject:
They're a private company, so don't have to publically release their earnings. No publically released earnings, nothing to use to place them.

Would be helpful they put that, rather than people having to work it out, or being confused by their exclusion.


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How the fuck did Zynga get there?I mean with those retard games...really?


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 19:25    Post subject:
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How the fuck did fuck Zynga get there?I mean with those retard games...really?


A lot of people like to pay for free flash games and call themselves gamers.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 19:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I do wonder why Apple wasn't on the list though, aren't publicly listed companies obliged to divulge their income?

Apple is not a publisher in the gaming industry afaik. They only produce overpriced lifestyle gadgets and a mediocre OS.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 19:34    Post subject:
FadeToBlack wrote:
How the fuck did Zynga get there?I mean with those retard games...really?


Don't forget all those microtransactions in those lame-ass Facebook games. You wouldn't believe how much money people dump into stuff like that.. it's creepy!

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sabin1981 wrote:
I do wonder why Apple wasn't on the list though, aren't publicly listed companies obliged to divulge their income?

Apple is not a publisher in the gaming industry afaik. They only produce overpriced lifestyle gadgets and a mediocre OS.


Opinions on the company aside, they control a multi-billion dollar industry via the App Store. That certainly makes them a big player in my eyes, lol.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 20:15    Post subject:
I've never seen any financials on Valve. They gotta be worth up in the billions though. They let a lot of data roll, such as number of players and such, but never their financial details. They know they doing it right, making all the monies with the Good Love.
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