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 Posted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 12:18 Post subject: Mr president |
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Invasor
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 18:38 Post subject: |
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if that is the song that starts the revolution, i want to be shot in the head with a sawed off shotgun by half-naked gay midgets
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 19:11 Post subject: |
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Dotcom is a joke, yet still a victim of Hollywood & Co.
Really sad, that we "have" to root for THAT guy...
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 19:26 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | Dotcom is a joke, yet still a victim of Hollywood & Co.
Really sad, that we "have" to root for THAT guy... |
you have to play the cards you re dealt. Or RAPE what you sow! But i think the special forces storming his mansion already did that  |
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 10:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 12:51 Post subject: |
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Lol I'm not getting behind this fat scammer ....
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 14:33 Post subject: |
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Yeah that was pretty damn terrible.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 14:44 Post subject: |
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Shitty song by that annoying retard... DO NOT WANT! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 16:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 16:13 Post subject: |
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haha, yes 
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 17:10 Post subject: |
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DotCom and Anon in a song?
Yea...the message it tries to send, and the ones sending it are polar opposites.
A song about cyber freedom, by 2 of the biggest known examples of trying to control it by greed and bullying.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 17:51 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | DotCom and Anon in a song?
Yea...the message it tries to send, and the ones sending it are polar opposites.
A song about cyber freedom, by 2 of the biggest known examples of trying to control it by greed and bullying. |
Since when are freedom and greed unrelated?
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 17:52 Post subject: |
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depends on how you define freedom
I have the freedom not to post here anymore if I wish for example..but that would in no way imply a greed is the motivation for such.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 17:59 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | depends on how you define freedom
I have the freedom not to post here anymore if I wish for example..but that would in no way imply a greed is the motivation for such. |
Freedom, absolute freedom, is a complete absence of restrictions, the more you restrict yourself, or are restricted by others, not to act in accordance with your will and intent, you are denouncing a specific aspect of your freedom.
Greed, is a gluttonous desire to satisfy your own selfish interests.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:06 Post subject: |
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But by your definition ANY state of being is motivated by greed, so the inclusion of it in the reasoning is nulled. its a self assumed and implied part of 'being' anything or any state..without greed by a very loose definition, there would be no motivation, desire, or outlook to take on any situation.
For example its like saying consciousnesses is a deciding factor is absolute freedom, as without it, there would be no cognitive abilities to decide what freedom is...as with any mindset or ideal..its an implied and understood part of the equation, but not a deciding factor in it.
Such as Freedom is the desire to do your own selfish deeds, control/oppression is the desire to do your own selfish deeds applied to others.
So saying greed is tied to freedom as if its a pivotal part of the reasoning is silly I think. as its part of EVERY decision made by any animal that makes a choice on anything.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:10 Post subject: |
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Its the varying degrees of greed, or the number of those negatively affected by your greed that determine if its net sum is bad.
And both DotCom and Anon both exhibit these..fight for freedom to 'do the right thing' by causing more of a negative effect, than the good the cause they are fighting for would bring because it is self serving and profitable for themselves. So in the end a 'selfish' decision of greed that is only self serving. not a greed decision that benefits all in a way viewed as positive by most.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:13 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | But by your definition ANY state of being is motivated by greed, so the inclusion of it in the reasoning is nulled. its a self assumed and implied part of 'being' anything or any state..without greed by a very loose definition, there would be no motivation, desire, or outlook to take on any situation.
For example its like saying consciousnesses is a deciding factor is absolute freedom, as without it, there would be no cognitive abilities to decide what freedom is...as with any mindset or ideal..its an implied and understood part of the equation, but not a deciding factor in it.
Such as Freedom is the desire to do your own selfish deeds, control/oppression is the desire to do your own selfish deeds applied to others.
So saying greed is tied to freedom as if its a pivotal part of the reasoning is silly I think. as its part of EVERY decision made by any animal that makes a choice on anything. |
Yes, and you are absolutely right, the problem lies not with your reasoning but with your interpretation.
And now I ask you, how exactly does Megaupload control and oppresses anyone?
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:20 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | Its the varying degrees of greed, or the number of those negatively affected by your greed that determine if its net sum is bad.
And both DotCom and Anon both exhibit these..fight for freedom to 'do the right thing' by causing more of a negative effect, than the good the cause they are fighting for would bring because it is self serving and profitable for themselves. So in the end a 'selfish' decision of greed that is only self serving. not a greed decision that benefits all in a way viewed as positive by most. |
Specify negative effect?
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:21 Post subject: |
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:36 Post subject: |
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| Nhiumewyn wrote: |
Yes, and you are absolutely right, the problem lies not with your reasoning but with your interpretation.
And now I ask you, how exactly does Megaupload control and oppresses anyone? |
I never said they was controlling people, I was saying their greed for money, was in no way 'driven' by desire for the internet to be 'free'. it was the opposite, the desire for the internet to be 'free' and its lack of it was effecting his greed for money.
and it oppresses people by example of its practices..implying it wants freedom on internet, while feeding its greed off the fact its got some 'freedom' as of now. By which the very freedom it 'preaches' give off a light to those less knowledgeable (those making laws) as "hell look this freedom is making him rich by exploitation, we need LESS freedom".
HE doesn't want freedom on internet for everyone..he wants freedom for himself to gain from.
So that's how he oppresses, indirectly, by affecting MY internet rights in the future, by the way he is indirectly teaching the lawmakers freedom=rampant piracy.
And Anon oppresses people the same way the US military does.
to me Anon is nothing more than that...to the internet what the US is to the world...trying to be "School dean" of affairs not affecting them..but trying to be the 'good guy' by being the 'bad guy'.
Its a mirror refection to me..US goes all over the world playing "body guard of the world" flexing its muscle to try to preserve whats in ITS best interest, interfering in things that piss people off..Anon goes around the internet playing "Body guard of the internet, flexing its muscle to try to preserve whats in ITS best interest, interfering in things that piss people off..
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:47 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: |
HE doesn't want freedom on internet for everyone..he wants freedom for himself to gain from. |
That is what freedom is!.
Furthermore, no, he doesn't affect you neither directly or indirectly, others affect you, others that you recognize to have a legitimate authority other you.
This is exactly like the drug war, it isn't the druglords greed for profit that is to blame, it is you by permitting and endorsing mechanisms to be put in practice to restrict his ability to profit by what you deem as unacceptable.
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| Nhiumewyn wrote: | | DXWarlock wrote: |
HE doesn't want freedom on internet for everyone..he wants freedom for himself to gain from. |
That is what freedom is!.
Furthermore, no, he doesn't affect you neither directly or indirectly, others affect you, others that you recognize to have a legitimate authority other you.
This is exactly like the drug war, it isn't the druglord greed for profit that is to blame, it is you by permitting and endorsing mechanisms to be put in practice to restrict his ability to profit by what you deem as unacceptable. |
Me? I never used megaupload. never had a reason to, so Im totally out of the loop of what he caused and the amount of data he had to cause it as it is now.
and are you back to that "only those that you officially recognize as having domain over you affect you?"
So a long winded version of "If I don't see you, you don't exist to me, and therefor cannot affect me"
So your saying his corrupt ways, and the new laws all over the world being considered because of his high profile case(for the worse as it is) in no way affects you?
Even if it makes you do nothing more than have to find a new outlet for your media and files because your current one is oppressed by the sweeping hand of 'justice'..he has affected you in some way.
Cause and effect is a "trickle down event". Not a "one to one isolated event".
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:58 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | | Nhiumewyn wrote: | | DXWarlock wrote: |
HE doesn't want freedom on internet for everyone..he wants freedom for himself to gain from. |
That is what freedom is!.
Furthermore, no, he doesn't affect you neither directly or indirectly, others affect you, others that you recognize to have a legitimate authority other you.
This is exactly like the drug war, it isn't the druglord greed for profit that is to blame, it is you by permitting and endorsing mechanisms to be put in practice to restrict his ability to profit by what you deem as unacceptable. |
Me? I never used megaupload. never had a reason to, so Im totally out of the loop of what he caused and the amount of data he had to cause it as it is now.
and are you back to that "only those that you officially recognize as having domain over you affect you?"
So a long winded version of "If I don't see you, you don't exist to me, and therefor cannot affect me"
So your saying his corrupt ways, and the new laws all over the world being considered because of his high profile case(for the worse as it is) in no way affects you?
Even if it makes you do nothing more than have to find a new outlet for your media and files because your current one is oppressed by the sweeping hand of 'justice'..he has affected you in some way.
Cause and effect is a "trickle down event". Not a "one to one isolated event". |
I am not entitled to the internet, or to megaupload or anything else, I use them because they are available in a market.
Remember that water example from the other thread?
I consume water because it is available to me. I may have a biological need to have it, but I don't have any right to it, that's what you tend to forget.
If the internet ceases to exist for whatever reason, they're not taking anything from you.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 18:59 Post subject: |
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| huxanomaly2 wrote: | Please, no, not again.. I'M OUTTA HERE
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Who divided by zero? |
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