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Injurious




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 19:49    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
How so? What factually makes a movie good? It's revenue? The amount of critics that say it's good? How many hotdogs were sold at the premier?


No. the way it's done. The way it accomplishes certain moments. Like undertow. Griffon thought the movie was boring. Utterly stupid. Slow. Yaddi Yadda. But the movie had character. The movie was just brilliant. It was perfect. The pace. Fuck everything! It was just beautiful!

AnimalMother wrote:
Seems more like it's majority rule now that defines whether a movie is 'good' or not. Lets say a movie is released on an island of 100 people, they all thought it was a masterpiece, and therefore it's regarded as such. Then the movie is released to the whole population of the planet. Suddenly it's not a masterpiece any more because only 100,000 thought it was good.


Thinking a movie is good is just an opinion. Doesn't matter how many people follow it.

AnimalMother wrote:
So what does that say about whether it's fact that a movie is good or not?

Please, that sentence is utter tripe Injurious, and you know it.


Oh please. Fuck off! You have to know how movies are made. Why they are made. Why certain scenes are like that. Why is the dialogue accomplished a certain way. When you look at a movie as sheer entertainment then it'll always be an opinion. But when you look at a movie beyond its entertaining value then you truly understand what makes it good. Having chills in a shit fest like war of the worlds doesn’t make it a good movie. Fuck. A lot of people liked it. It doesn’t mean it’s a good movie. A majority turns shit into a cult classic. Like Guy Ritchie movies. Or that… boondock saints. You can’t tell me they are good movies! They are just entertaining.

Wow. I didn't think AnimalMother was so damn shallow-minded.
You can state an opinion and you can state a fact. It's my opinion that you're a damn retard. It's a fact that you're better educated than I.
It's an opinion that war of the worlds was remotley entertaining. It's a fact that speilberg hasn't made a GREAT movie since Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Want me to go on?


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 19:58    Post subject:
All movies by all directors are shit, unless its a movie I like.


that is 100% fact, and anuone that disagree's is wrong, so just get used to it.


this film will prolly be shite, because the book has so much too it, lets face it they have trouble making a 300 page book into a film, and this is 600 pages plus.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:05    Post subject:
I asked you what factually makes a movie good, and you still haven't answered that question. Which was the main point of my post.

Who decides whether the way a movie accomplishes certain moments is 'good'? The critics? Because they certainly don't agree on everything.

The word 'good' by it's very definiton is intrinsic to the nature of opinion.

Isn't the whole purpose of a movie to entertain, and sometimes possibly have a moral message of some sort? If a movie accomplishes it's purpose, then I think it can logically be regarded as 'good'.

It's most definitely not a fact that spielberg hasn't made a great movie since close encounters. Your definition of a great movie is wildly different to others.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:09    Post subject:
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this film will prolly be shite, because the book has so much too it, lets face it they have trouble making a 300 page book into a film, and this is 600 pages plus.


Well they pulled off Lord of the Rings, and that has over 1000 pages.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:12    Post subject:
Inj wrote:
No. the way it's done. The way it accomplishes certain moments. Like undertow. Griffon thought the movie was boring. Utterly stupid. Slow. Yaddi Yadda. But the movie had character. The movie was just brilliant. It was perfect. The pace. Fuck everything! It was just beautiful!

Maybe it was perfect and brilliant for you... but yet again... it's opinion...

Inj wrote:
It's a fact that speilberg hasn't made a GREAT movie since Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Want me to go on?

Really ? Cool... didn't know that, I always though:
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Empire of the Sun
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List (Oh yea sorry, It's about jews, how can it be good to inj?)
Saving Private Ryan
Those movies are Great.. well since INJ said he didn't make a great movie since Close Encounters, well, we all know INJ's facts are always true! So I guess those movies are just Medicore...

Mahoney wrote:
How so? What factually makes a movie good? It's revenue? The amount of critics that say it's good?

No, Inj's opinion.

Ju wrote:
But the fact that you believe you’re this movie guru who knows why a movie is good and what makes the movie good. But when you’re put on the line you can’t argue worth shit.

I believe that ? Really... Well I bet you know me better than I do...
I know when the movie is good for ME and why.
What makes a movie good ? Well that's depends on the viewer, someone thinks LOTR is the BEST because of the war scenes/effects, the other thinks it's the BEST because of the dialog. Someone thinks it suck. Like I said it depends on the viewer.
The academy though ABM was good, I though so too (no, not the best not super, just good). Oksi though it was medicore, now why would I start prooving him this movie was good ?
Inj, if there's a guru who knows everything about movies here on NFOrce, it would be only 1 person... You.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Oski is actually your 2nd account...

P.S. Da Vinci's Code is 430~ pages...


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.


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Injurious




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:30    Post subject:
Griffon. Griffon. Griffon. Griffon. Sad little boy locked in a pop-up book. Griffon. Griffon. Giffon. Don’t hide. Just because YOU see it as a waste of time doesn't mean it is. Does it? Sadly. You are unable to argue. You points are childlike. Which is understandable. Argue to prove him wrong. It never went off topic. He said RON HOWARD was a pussy. You tried to prove him wrong. It was still on topic. Do you see? DO YOU SEE? It was on topic. You kept going of topic by knit-picking on useless bull-shit.

He said david lynch. that's all you saw. He said something. that's all you saw. Because you haven't read the entire post you are unable to properly argue. Do you see? Do you see? Which is fine. Fine. Very fine. To you arguing is a waste of time. To you being wrong is a waste of time. You're just wasting time. Laughing Do you see?

A.M. I told you what made a movie a good movie. It's not an opinion. Once upon a time in America. Is a good movie. Correct? Is it a fact or an opinion? Question Hmm? Saw… is a bad movie. A fact or an opinion? Hmmm?

Griffon. A childless mind.
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.. well since INJ said he didn't make a great movie since Close Encounters, well, we all know INJ's facts are always true! So I guess those movies are just Medicore...


I've said what I’ve said. You’re arguing very stupidly. Stupidly. Stupidly. Stupidly. Those movies don’t even compare to to to to to to to to close encounters. Schindlers list is total crap. Could’ve been a lot better. E.T. come on? Are you serious? The fact that you mentioned Saving Private Ryan just makes me weep. That movie is so fucking stupid and so fucking annoying that come on, man. How can you… how can you… how can you say that movie was great? Are you honestly that fucked up in the head that you can’t even realize when a movie is good?

It’s sad that you have to cower in fear like this, Griffon. It’s sad, man. You did it before when you were proved wrong. You kept ringing that opinion bell. You kept singing the same tune. Why are you like this griffon? You’d be such a wonderful subject. Such a wonderful patient. Such a… such a… such a joy to get inside of you. Mmm. Come with me griffon. Come with me.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:37    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
Griffon. Griffon. Griffon. Griffon. Sad little boy locked in a pop-up book. Griffon. Griffon. Giffon. Don’t hide. Just because YOU see it as a waste of time doesn't mean it is. Does it? Sadly. You are unable to argue. You points are childlike. Which is understandable. Argue to prove him wrong. It never went off topic. He said RON HOWARD was a pussy. You tried to prove him wrong. It was still on topic. Do you see? DO YOU SEE? It was on topic. You kept going of topic by knit-picking on useless bull-shit.

He said david lynch. that's all you saw. He said something. that's all you saw. Because you haven't read the entire post you are unable to properly argue. Do you see? Do you see? Which is fine. Fine. Very fine. To you arguing is a waste of time. To you being wrong is a waste of time. You're just wasting time. Laughing Do you see?

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Ju wrote:
A.M. I told you what made a movie a good movie. It's not an opinion. Once upon a time in America. Is a good movie. Correct? Is it a fact or an opinion? Question Hmm? Saw… is a bad movie. A fact or an opinion? Hmmm?

Both opinions. Some like it, some don't. How can it be a fact?
Show me a fact book that says "ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA" is a good movie. Or that says "SAW" is a bad movie.

Ju wrote:
Griffon. A childless mind.

NOOOOOOOOO! Crying or Very sad
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.. well since INJ said he didn't make a great movie since Close Encounters, well, we all know INJ's facts are always true! So I guess those movies are just Medicore...

Inj wrote:
I've said what I’ve said. You’re arguing very stupidly. Stupidly. Stupidly. Stupidly. Those movies don’t even compare to to to to to to to to close encounters. Schindlers list is total crap. Could’ve been a lot better. E.T. come on? Are you serious? The fact that you mentioned Saving Private Ryan just makes me weep. That movie is so fucking stupid and so fucking annoying that come on, man. How can you… how can you… how can you say that movie was great? Are you honestly that fucked up in the head that you can’t even realize when a movie is good?

Why did you write Stupidly 4 times?
Well those movies don't even compare to to to to to to to close encounters ? Maybe so. For you.
Schindler's List is total crap... :\ Cool. Well of course it will be for you, it's a pro-jewish movie! Bah!
I am serious about E.T. yea.
Ohh ... so now I'm a weep cause I mentioned SPR... oh no! Sad
How could I say those movies are great ? I can answer only with a question. "How can you say otherwise ?"

IN wrote:
It’s sad that you have to cower in fear like this, Griffon. It’s sad, man. You did it before when you proved wrong. You kept ringing that opinion bell. You kept singing the same tune. Why are you like this griffon? You’d be such a wonderful subject. Such a wonderful patient. Such a… such a… such a joy to get inside of you. Mmm. Come with me griffon. Come with me.

What Confused

Seriously, it's sad to see you turn opinions into FACTS. You think that your opinion is a fact. Very very very sad ? You see ? sad sad Sad Crying or Very sad


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:55    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
Hmm? Saw… is a bad movie. A fact or an opinion? Hmmm?


100% Fact. Laughing Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 20:59    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Injurious wrote:
Hmm? Saw… is a bad movie. A fact or an opinion? Hmmm?


100% Fact. Laughing Wink

Laughing
I'd say it's a medicore movie. If they would improve the acting/script/less plotholes, it would be a good movie. But still... it's not a fact Smile - LOADS of people think it's good, most of the people who saw it anyways...


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:00    Post subject:
yeah, well people believed the world was flat ... and we all know how that turned out Very Happy

man, i love bashing Saw Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:05    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
yeah, well people believed the world was flat ... and we all know how that turned out Very Happy

man, i love bashing Saw Laughing

I bet you can't wait to see SAW 2 Smile


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:05    Post subject:
looong long time ago this thread was about a movie, "da vinci code" or something like that Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:07    Post subject:
weird0 wrote:
looong long time ago this thread was about a movie, "da vinci code" or something like that Laughing

Haha yea, If I could I would change the name Sad This thread is getting better and better...


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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Injurious




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:19    Post subject:
Schindler list
It’s not just a movie about Jews
It’s a movie about human compassion and what a person is willing to do. It's not just about fucking Jews. How they lived. Or anything. It's about what Oskar went through to help them. How he felt. How and why he did certain things. And Spielberg didn't achieve it the way it should've been done. He kept focusing on Jews. On how Jews had it bad. How others had it bad. How cripples had it. How this how that. There were only few moments that showed who Schindler really was! And only those few moments were worth watching…

Fuck at the end of movie all you could think was about the Jews. Not Oskar!

Knit… knit… knit picking again.. .wow… it’s what you’re good at? Aren’t you! You little boy. Mmm how I’d love to become a sadistic pedophile just to fuck you..

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Both opinions. Some like it, some don't. How can it be a fact?

Hahahahaha arguing like that does make me wonder if you really understand the movies you watch.

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How could I say those movies are great ? I can answer only with a question. "How can you say otherwise ?

How can i… how… how… how can I say otherwise? Easily. Spielberg become hollywoodized. Trademark, baby! Trademark! Now… when you look at his old movies… his old movies… his old movies that actually were before he became this famous cock-sucker and before he got control of his works his movies were surprisingly decent. Now they are just entertaining. Even schindlers list is entertaining and not decent.

Do you see? Do you see? It’s not opinion. It’s a fact that Spielberg is now a hack! Smile, baby, smile!

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Seriously, it's sad to see you turn opinions into FACTS. You think that your opinion is a fact. Very very very sad ? You see ? sad sad


No! My opions aren’t facts. It’s when I state facts that’s when they are facts. Do you see? When I say… once upon a time in America is a good movie… it’s not an opinion…. It’s a fact. It’s not my fact. It’s a proven fact. Shall I… shall I… shall elaborate it for you, young one? Hmmm? Then again if I have to prove to you that once upon a time in America is a good movie… well then… then… then I’ll cry… Crying or Very sad < like that baby, I’ll cry like that.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:22    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
Schindler list
It’s not just a movie about Jews
It’s a movie about human compassion and what a person is willing to do. It's not just about fucking Jews. How they lived. Or anything. It's about what Oskar went through to help them. How he felt. How and why he did certain things. And Spielberg didn't achieve it the way it should've been done. He kept focusing on Jews. On how Jews had it bad. How others had it bad. How cripples had it. How this how that. There were only few moments that showed who Schindler really was! And only those few moments were worth watching…

Fuck at the end of movie all you could think was about the Jews. Not Oskar!

Knit… knit… knit picking again.. .wow… it’s what you’re good at? Aren’t you! You little boy. Mmm how I’d love to become a sadistic pedophile just to fuck you..

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Both opinions. Some like it, some don't. How can it be a fact?

Hahahahaha arguing like that does make me wonder if you really understand the movies you watch.

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How could I say those movies are great ? I can answer only with a question. "How can you say otherwise ?

How can i… how… how… how can I say otherwise? Easily. Spielberg become hollywoodized. Trademark, baby! Trademark! Now… when you look at his old movies… his old movies… his old movies that actually were before he became this famous cock-sucker and before he got control of his works his movies were surprisingly decent. Now they are just entertaining. Even schindlers list is entertaining and not decent.

Do you see? Do you see? It’s not opinion. It’s a fact that Spielberg is now a hack! Smile, baby, smile!

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Seriously, it's sad to see you turn opinions into FACTS. You think that your opinion is a fact. Very very very sad ? You see ? sad sad


No! My opions aren’t facts. It’s when I state facts that’s when they are facts. Do you see? When I say… once upon a time in America is a good movie… it’s not an opinion…. It’s a fact. It’s not my fact. It’s a proven fact. Shall I… shall I… shall elaborate it for you, young one? Hmmm? Then again if I have to prove to you that once upon a time in America is a good movie… well then… then… then I’ll cry… Crying or Very sad < like that baby, I’ll cry like that.

I think you're losing it, take a nap. Laughing Laughing Laughing


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:39    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
Schindler list


No! My opions aren’t facts. It’s when I state facts that’s when they are facts. Do you see? When I say… once upon a time in America is a good movie… it’s not an opinion…. It’s a fact. It’s not my fact. It’s a proven fact. Shall I… shall I… shall elaborate it for you, young one? Hmmm? Then again if I have to prove to you that once upon a time in America is a good movie… well then… then… then I’ll cry… Crying or Very sad < like that baby, I’ll cry like that.


You're fucking joking right? How the *beep* can "once upon a time in America is a good movie… it’s not an opinion…. It’s a fact." this be a fact?

It's your opinion, sure evryone can spot lame acting/bad acting etc etc, but it will never be a fact just because you or someone else says it's so based on your opinion. Do you like fishes?


BTW the movie wasn't even good, I usually like de niro and the other mob cast, but this one was simply bad.

Im running on a high fever so excuse my typo's Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 21:47    Post subject:
Injurious, when you can come on here and not write like someone who has tourettes coupled with ADHD then maybe i'll take you seriously.

It doesn't make your posts seem unique and/or wacky.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:00    Post subject:
My god!
The fuck is wrong with you?
A.M. Shut the fuck up! Honestly!
GP. FUCK! Are you fucking retarded? So you're going to tell me just because I thought SAW was a brilliant movie it makes it a good movie? HOW fucking retarded can you be? Once upon a time in America was/is a good movie. It's not my opinion. It's not the opinions of others. It's a fucking fact. It's the same fact that states SAW is a shit fest. It's the quality of the movie! It's the IDEAS, it's the characters, the plot, the dialogue... for fucks sake! An opinion does not make a good movie! The director does, the script does… opinions just praise the movie! FUCK!

Griffon, baby, suck on a cock for me.

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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:09    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
My god!
The fuck is wrong with you?
A.M. Shut the fuck up! Honestly!
GP. FUCK! Are you fucking retarded? So you're going to tell me just because I thought SAW was a brilliant movie it makes it a good movie? HOW fucking retarded can you be? Once upon a time in America was/is a good movie. It's not my opinion. It's not the opinions of others. It's a fucking fact. It's the same fact that states SAW is a shit fest. It's the quality of the movie! It's the IDEAS, it's the characters, the plot, the dialogue... for fucks sake! An opinion does not make a good movie! The director does, the script does… opinions just praise the movie! FUCK!

Griffon, baby, suck on a cock for me.

God. Ron Howard is a pussy!! Very Happy


OMG you removed your last reply to Animalmother? Are you a coward or what? I wish I took a screenie, Crying or Very sad

Afraid of Animal Mother Shocked Confused

Apparently you didn't read my post thoroughly...

As I've said to other children (are you still in kindergarden?) I got better things to do then trying to argue with a child... grow up dude!

"God. Ron Howard is a pussy!! Very Happy"

Says the guy who removed his reply Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:23    Post subject:
The Godfather is a good movie. Fact or Opinion?


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:41    Post subject:
Ju wrote:
Griffon, baby, suck on a cock for me.

Laughing Laughing You are more retarded than I expected Neutral Laughing Laughing

nouseforaname wrote:
The Godfather is a good movie. Fact or Opinion?

Opinion. The opinion of the majority. There are loads of people who does not like it, but the majority thinks it's a good movie.


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:44    Post subject:
Griffon wrote:
Ju wrote:
Griffon, baby, suck on a cock for me.

Laughing Laughing You are more retarded than I expected Neutral Laughing Laughing

nouseforaname wrote:
The Godfather is a good movie. Fact or Opinion?

Opinion. The opinion of the majority. There are loads of people who does not like it, but the majority thinks it's a good movie.


Im one of those, I always fell a sleep near the end of the movie, I haven't seen Godfather 2-3, I will someday though. When I can watch the first one without falling asleep Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:50    Post subject:
GP Force wrote:
OMG you removed your last reply to Animalmother? Are you a coward or what? I wish I took a screenie, Crying or Very sad

Afraid of Animal Mother Shocked Confused
I actually sent him the reply. Personally.

GP Force wrote:
Apparently you didn't read my post thoroughly...

As I've said to other children (are you still in kindergarden?) I got better things to do then trying to argue with a child... grow up dude!
Says you. You have better things to do than to argue with us. Yet you replied. Shocked Time flew by so quickly. Got a special second for us, eh?

GP Force wrote:
"God. Ron Howard is a pussy!! Very Happy"


Says the guy who removed his reply Rolling Eyes
Don't comment on something you have no idea about. Thank you.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 06:14    Post subject:
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How so? What factually makes a movie good? It's revenue? The amount of critics that say it's good? How many hotdogs were sold at the premier?


It's not defined by a number, it isn't clearly defined.

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Seems more like it's majority rule now that defines whether a movie is 'good' or not. Lets say a movie is released on an island of 100 people, they all thought it was a masterpiece, and therefore it's regarded as such. Then the movie is released to the whole population of the planet. Suddenly it's not a masterpiece any more because only 100,000 thought it was good.


Like I said its not defined by numbers.

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So what does that say about whether it's fact that a movie is good or not?


Art is not a popularity contest.

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I asked you what factually makes a movie good, and you still haven't answered that question. Which was the main point of my post.


The ideas, the themes, the originality, the style. You may not like how a movie accomplishes such things but these are things that set higher art apart from kindergarden drawings or cheap, cliche painting of a sunset.

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Who decides whether the way a movie accomplishes certain moments is 'good'? The critics? Because they certainly don't agree on everything.


How it is accomplished is a matter of opinion.

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The word 'good' by it's very definiton is intrinsic to the nature of opinion.


How about art with a purpose more than just to entertain.

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Isn't the whole purpose of a movie to entertain, and sometimes possibly have a moral message of some sort? If a movie accomplishes it's purpose, then I think it can logically be regarded as 'good'.


If it achieves what it sets out to do and it isn't Academy Award bait (like Beautiful Mind) then yes, it is good. For example, I think that Predator is the best action movie ever, but not for a second do I consider this a revelation in the art of film.

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It's most definitely not a fact that spielberg hasn't made a great movie since close encounters. Your definition of a great movie is wildly different to others.


Well other than A.I. I can't see any of his movies after Close Encounters to be great. Many are good mind you.

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I believe that ? Really... Well I bet you know me better than I do...


I bet people have to tell you something is funny for you to laugh.

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I know when the movie is good for ME and why.


Do you? I asked you why you think Ron Howard makes such great movies but you have avoided that question like the plague.

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What makes a movie good ? Well that's depends on the viewer, someone thinks LOTR is the BEST because of the war scenes/effects, the other thinks it's the BEST because of the dialog. Someone thinks it suck. Like I said it depends on the viewer.


Just cause you like the action or the effects doesn't mean the whole movie is good. Whoever thinks the dialogue in LOTR is good is just plain stupid or misinformed.

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The academy though ABM was good, I though so too (no, not the best not super, just good). Oksi though it was medicore, now why would I start prooving him this movie was good ?


I simply asked for your reasons for liking it. You couldn't provide me with any. I think you steal opinions much better than you form them.

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Inj, if there's a guru who knows everything about movies here on NFOrce, it would be only 1 person... You.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Oski is actually your 2nd account...


Do I have to give you the definition of irony and sarcasm?

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Really ? Cool... didn't know that, I always though:
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Empire of the Sun
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List (Oh yea sorry, It's about jews, how can it be good to inj?)
Saving Private Ryan
Those movies are Great.. well since INJ said he didn't make a great movie since Close Encounters, well, we all know INJ's facts are always true! So I guess those movies are just Medicore...


Ok let me go through this for you.
E.T. - strong film
Raiders of the Lost Ark - strong film
Empire of the Sun - flawed
Last Crusade - decent
Temple of Doom - decent
Jurassic Park - not too shabby
Schindler's List - saw this long time ago so I won't comment although I don't find it memorable
Saving Private Ryan - I'm guessing you like to be anally raped with propaganda and then soaked in honey.

You missed his strongest movies after Close Encounters...
Minority Report - flawed but still good
A.I. - just about a masterpiece

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I'd say it's a medicore movie. If they would improve the acting/script/less plotholes, it would be a good movie. But still... it's not a fact Smile - LOADS of people think it's good, most of the people who saw it anyways...


Wait a second. So you claim its a mediocre movie yet it needs to improve in every category to become good? Isn't that a BAD movie?

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BTW the movie wasn't even good, I usually like de niro and the other mob cast, but this one was simply bad.


Why? Don't forget to bring some reasoning otherwise you'll make yourself look like Griffon here.

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Im one of those, I always fell a sleep near the end of the movie, I haven't seen Godfather 2-3, I will someday though. When I can watch the first one without falling asleep


Looks like you just don't like movies that are above average length and can't appreciate (maybe it just goes way over your head) the wonderfully developed themes in them.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 06:19    Post subject:
Wow, you have loads of time on your hands, don't you ?
A.I. sucked anyways...


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 06:45    Post subject:
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Wow, you have loads of time on your hands, don't you ?
A.I. sucked anyways...


I see. So you want to play that game now do you? Let's check out your activity in this thread for the last 24 hours or so. For the fun of it I'll even take a few guesses as to what you were doing in between.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:44 am - Mommy says it is time for bed.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:12 pm - Rise and shine.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:37 pm - New diapers means new forum whoring.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:59 pm - Whored some other threads in between.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 08:05 pm - Sitting there waiting for someone to reply.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 08:07 pm - Sitting there refreshing page constantly.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 08:22 pm - A little bit of whoring another thread.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 10:41 pm - Breatfed by mommy in between.
Posted: 26 Jul 2005 05:19 am - Had to go for your nap.

Seriously you attempt to say I have no life because I spent 5 min making a post, but you clearly spent ATLEAST an hour and half just trolling these forums and saying nothing of significance. If I looked around the forums some more I could probably fill every minute up with a post of yours. Hypocrite.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 06:52    Post subject:
Oski wrote:
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Wow, you have loads of time on your hands, don't you ?
A.I. sucked anyways...


I see. So you want to play that game now do you? Let's check out your activity in this thread for the last 24 hours or so. For the fun of it I'll even take a few guesses as to what you were doing in between.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:44 am - Mommy says it is time for bed.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:12 pm - Rise and shine.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:37 pm - New diapers means new forum whoring.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 07:59 pm - Whored some other threads in between.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 08:05 pm - Sitting there waiting for someone to reply.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 08:07 pm - Sitting there refreshing page constantly.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 08:22 pm - A little bit of whoring another thread.
Posted: 25 Jul 2005 10:41 pm - Breatfed by mommy in between.
Posted: 26 Jul 2005 05:19 am - Had to go for your nap.

Seriously you attempt to say I have no life because I spent 5 min making a post, but you clearly spent ATLEAST an hour and half just trolling these forums and saying nothing of significance. If I looked around the forums some more I could probably fill every minute up with a post of yours. Hypocrite.

Sure Inj.

Of course, you know every thing I do, every time I refresh... You know everything, jesus, wtf you need another acount for anyways ?
To spam and stay clean as Injurious ?


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 07:14    Post subject:
*Reads thread and runs in the opposite direction*
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Griffon
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 07:22    Post subject:
hahe wrote:
*Reads thread and runs in the opposite direction*

Hahahhahaha! You've done the right thing Very Happy
I would do the same, but it's my thread.


About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.

Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 07:31    Post subject:
Griffon why did you do that? Why did you say that?


We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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