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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 18:59 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | I was under the impression the command console only worked for singleplayer mode or at most for the guy setting up the server, don't they use separate characters for SP and MP?
(I mean they're stored locally and there's already a number of trainers available but there's not much they can do about that other than creating some closed MP lobby with server side storage.)
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nope you can play online with your sp char. and as far i can see, with your cheated sp char.
there is no such mp only chars, or secure mp servers, which sucks from my pov. thats the reason i stopped playing tq.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 19:02 Post subject: |
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I have tried all characters for 45 minutes or so, the engineer is seriously overpowered (healbot + shotgun) completely killing the fun.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 19:06 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | I have tried all characters for 45 minutes or so, the engineer is seriously overpowered (healbot + shotgun) completely killing the fun. |
i specced mine to 2h "tank", very fun class to play.
2str/1dex/2vit.
got tanky passives, and only the first attack skill, which you get automatically at start.
specced heal bot to, but i forget to use it in most cases. (veteran dificulty).
probably on elite i would use it often.
intend to continue on tanky spec, and get the high level bot.
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 19:32 Post subject: |
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heh engineer is my first character, took healbot + shotgun, and yes, it's way too easy... don't mind restarting with another character though, having a lot more fun than i thought i would.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 19:49 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | I have tried all characters for 45 minutes or so, the engineer is seriously overpowered (healbot + shotgun) completely killing the fun. |
It gets harder, quickly. Also, make sure you are playing on at least Veteran or Elite. The first few maps are (I guess) not meant to be too challenging.
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locke89
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 20:21 Post subject: |
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This game is zionist response to D3
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 21:11 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | A+ game with (sadly?) slightly low production values. I don;t know why these guys left Blizzard, but it is a damn shame. |
No, it's no shame. It's a shame they didn't have as high budget for Torchlight as Blizzard had for Diablo 3. But it would be just icing on cake if it had better voice acting, or some cool cutscenes, it's not necessary.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 21:20 Post subject: |
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Yeah it's understandable that they decided to spend their limited resources on the primary aspects, gameplay>everything else after all. Maybe with the third one? 
By the way, I started a new game choosing veteran and it's indeed much better now. Don't do the same mistake as me, avoid the normal difficulty like the plague. 
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 21:33 Post subject: |
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I don't think you need a lot of resources or money to do a proper story. I don't mind the story itself, it was crap in Diablo too, but these guys put zero effort into teh storytelling. It's done very bland and boring. It's just lazy, I expect a dev to atleast give it a try.
Gameplay rocks though.
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saulob
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 22:36 Post subject: |
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Btw, who already tried the console commands on Multiplayer?
Does it work?
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 22:44 Post subject: |
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they work, but most of them label you as cheater i read. but they don't forbid to play with that cheated char online.
on the other hand, you can block that player, and he canot join your game, nor you can see his games.
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saulob
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 23:17 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | they work, but most of them label you as cheater i read. but they don't forbid to play with that cheated char online.
on the other hand, you can block that player, and he canot join your game, nor you can see his games. |
Thanks for the info. Good to know
But, if I create a char, enter a offline game, give me a lot of money, exit the game, disable the console, restart the game, enter a multiplayer game using that char, will that char be labeled as a cheater? ... that will be interesting to test.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 23:51 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | I don't think you need a lot of resources or money to do a proper story. I don't mind the story itself, it was crap in Diablo too, but these guys put zero effort into teh storytelling. It's done very bland and boring. It's just lazy, I expect a dev to atleast give it a try.
Gameplay rocks though. |
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you ;D. We're not picky, some proper dialogues/deeper characters + static comic-like cutscenes here and there and everything would have been much more immersive. |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 00:20 Post subject: |
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Well, I tried the Berserker and I think he is overpowered. So it seems all classes have something that can make them super strong. I literally didnt have to chug a potion until late Act 2 and I am Melee all the time.
I stacked Focus and got Execute chance up to 80%. With the Shadow skill that lets you heal and the skill that lets you heal on Criticals, you are pretty much invincible. Add to it that Rampage gives you + movement speed, Berserk gives you + movement speed and you can cast Haste III and you are basically flying through the maps. Great for backtracking. Lots of fun!
Anyone found any good mods yet? Prolly too soon, but still. I really want one to increase Stash Capacity and one to increase item drop rate (or Magic Find) to some ridiculous number. Not that I would want to ruin my game but I want to see all the Unique and Legendary items, purely out of curiousity (unless there is a site which has them, in which case you could just point me there).
All in all, great game and with mods, serious potential for the future with new quests, locations, bosses, classes and so on.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 00:24 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | I don't think you need a lot of resources or money to do a proper story. I don't mind the story itself, it was crap in Diablo too, but these guys put zero effort into teh storytelling. It's done very bland and boring. It's just lazy, I expect a dev to atleast give it a try.
Gameplay rocks though. |
As a Diablo game, in terms of pure gameplay, it's a great game but I got to agree that the "fluffing" as I call it, leaves a lot to be desired. The music is there but the mood and atmosphere isn't, the story and setting is almost anonymous. The pace of the story is all wrong and it really almost feels like an MMO in approach to quests. The linked areas also feel very random - I preferred Diablo 2's themed areas by far. It's really all about the action but that's about all you're getting too - the online element isn't a patch on that of Diablo II and Diablo II was hardly without fault there. Being able to cheat and play online also means there's no real economy, no trading which is one of D2's strong points.
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no9999
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 01:05 Post subject: |
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I'm with a few of the other people in this thread... The skills are so goddamn bad I have barely put any points into anything.. ESPECIALLY the Berserker. I look ahead in his trees and see literally NOTHING that I want.
ZZzzzz... :\
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W123
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 01:11 Post subject: |
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After playing D3, it feels strange to play a hack and slash where you get item upgrades from drops... great game, having a blast with berserker towards the end of act2. Love how big the randomly generated areas are too.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 01:12 Post subject: |
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| W123 wrote: | | After playing D3, it feels strange to play a hack and slash where you get item upgrades from drops... great game, having a blast with berserker towards the end of act2. Love how big the randomly generated areas are too. |
Where have you been putting your skill points? |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 02:11 Post subject: |
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| Hellifant wrote: | | anyone else experiencing massive desync problems in LAN through tunngle/hamachi? I really hope it dosent happen in Internet play aswell. |
same issue, i hope it's not the case, cause im really thinking about buying just cause of coop, but if this problems occur on online play too, then i'm out.
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W123
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 02:22 Post subject: |
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| sTo0z wrote: | | W123 wrote: | | After playing D3, it feels strange to play a hack and slash where you get item upgrades from drops... great game, having a blast with berserker towards the end of act2. Love how big the randomly generated areas are too. |
Where have you been putting your skill points? |
I was kind of like you at first, i had like 15 skill points saved up and didnt know where to put them.
I plan on maxing that first skill you start with (Eviscerate).. it gets better and better every 5 points. Also, Wolf Strike is great mobility + stun + aoe skill... might max that too. Got a bunch of points into Rend and Tear, Rampage, Frenzy Mastery. The one that increases chance to execute is nice too if you dual wield.
I agree with you on the Ice skill tree, dont see much there worth getting. I can see some effective builds there, but it would take much more work than doing a berserk/crit build.
I tried one of the wolf summoning skills and it seemed ok, but has a long cooldown and needs lots of investment to get it to where i'd want it to be, so i'll worry about it later.
In terms of stat points i have almost equal dex and str, and 40ish vit and seem to be surviving ok.
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). Combat is also excellent, very fast and mobs are great. At first I thought leveling was too fast, but I understand why now. Getting stat and skill points to spend is great and gettting new skills constantly is also brilliant.
, thanks for that D3. I can't wait for the mini bosses or big mobs to die to see what awesome loot drops.
