Advice on i5 2500k build
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trashd




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 19:11    Post subject: Advice on i5 2500k build
I am seriously thinking about updating the most important components of my system (Processor, Motherboard, Memory). The only parts I will keep from my old build are:

BeQuiet Straight Power Quad Rail 700w PSU (80 plus rating)
Evga GTX 550ti 1024MB GDDR5
Seagate Momentus XT, 7200rpm, 32MB, 2.5" 500GB with NCQ Solid State Hybrid Drive (not originally in my old build)
Thermaltake Shark Full Tower ATX case (circa 2005)

I am definitely on a budget. I live in Switzerland but one U.S. Dollar is basically equal to a Swiss Franc. I am looking for the best bang for my buck plus something that will be a bit future proof. I was thinking of getting the i5 2500k. I am torn between motherboards. I really seem to be leaning toward Asus (loyalty??) so I was thinking about the Asus P8Z68-V/Gen3 because of the many features (bluetooth, many USB 2 and 3 plus eSata etc.) and the price. My motherboard search is a bit at a stand still now and I have a splitting headache but if someone put a gun to my head and ordered me to choose a board now I would go for the P8Z68-V/Gen3. So cost-wise it looks like this in my area:

i5 2500k - 231 Swiss Francs
Asus P8Z68-V/Gen3 -162 Swiss Francs
= 393 SFr.

I would like to keep Chip & Mobo around 400. Any suggestions? Am I going in the right direction? Should I look at z77????? I also need advice on Memory once I pick the board. Also what do you all think of that Seagate Hybrid drive? Ok, looking forward to your advice and thanks in advance!!
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 19:13    Post subject:
get Asrock z77 extreme 4, its one of the cheapest quality boards out there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 for reference

I wouldnt run z68 board anymore if you dont have to.

Since memory is so cheap and you dont need to overclock it anymore any brand will do honestly, buy the cheapest possible and if it works it works.

Harddrive wise i would stay away from hybrid drives. SSD best price quality are the Crucial M4 / samsung 830 series preferably 128gb, but if you really wanna save every franc 64gb will do for windows and a few games. im not sure about current intel prices but they also got quality SSDs
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trashd




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 19:22    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
get Asrock z77 extreme 4, its one of the cheapest quality boards out there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 for reference

I wouldnt run z68 board anymore if you dont have to.



I was just looking at this board as you posted this! Seriously thinking about this board now! What's the problem with this hybrid drive I have. It's brand new and sure beats my old HDD (300GB) from 2005.
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 19:25    Post subject:
trashd wrote:
Paintface wrote:
get Asrock z77 extreme 4, its one of the cheapest quality boards out there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 for reference

I wouldnt run z68 board anymore if you dont have to.



I was just looking at this board as you posted this! Seriously thinking about this board now! What's the problem with this hybrid drive I have. It's brand new and sure beats my old HDD (300GB) from 2005.


no problem with it , figured you were asking suggestions what to buy as main drive.
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trashd




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2012 19:29    Post subject:
Thanks for your suggestions! I will seriously look into an SSD!
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ClaudeFTW




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2012 20:09    Post subject:
Quote:
Evga GTX 550ti 1024MB GDDR5


No...just...no. Get a 560SE, it's pretty close as price and more powerful.




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Paintface




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2012 21:16    Post subject:
ClaudeFTW wrote:
Quote:
Evga GTX 550ti 1024MB GDDR5


No...just...no. Get a 560SE, it's pretty close as price and more powerful.


its what he already has and is going to keep
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2012 21:49    Post subject:
BestHijacker just bought that same board. He likes it.


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2012 22:54    Post subject:
Been using P67 version of that board since SB release, and its still rock solid. Very good overclocking features aswell.
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Frant
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2012 23:23    Post subject:
I've been running my 2500K flawlessly (@ 4.5GHz) on my ASUS Sabertooth P67 since the day I bought them. I could actually overclock my CPU even further but for the first time I just don't see the point in wasting a little more power and getting a hotter CPU for performance I don't need.


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trashd




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Sep 2012 20:21    Post subject:
Looks like I'm going with:

Intel Core i5 3570K BOX, LGA 1155, 4C/4T, unlocked 236.-

AsRock Z77 Extreme4 146.-

Corsair Vengeance, 2x4GB, DDR3-1600, Low Profile, CL9@1.5V 47.-

Xigmatek Loki SD963 30.-
or
Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 Heatpipe Cooler 120mm 35.-

Crucial m4 SSD 128GB, 2.5 Zoll, SATA-3 125.- (keeping my Seagate Momentus XT 500gb hybrid hdd and running both together - any thoughts on this?)

All prices or in Swiss Francs which is basically the same as a U.S. Dollar. Any thoughts?
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Sep 2012 20:31    Post subject:
For the memory I recommend
SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US

and if you planning to overlock get CORSAIR H100 Very Happy Very Happy

I bought similar setup few days ago

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79045

loving the mobo+cpu+ram, OC it to 4.5ghz and ram at 2000Mhz so far at 1.575, gonna try to push for 2133mhz sometime this week


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trashd




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Sep 2012 20:46    Post subject:
besthijacker wrote:


and if you planning to overlock get CORSAIR H100 Very Happy Very Happy


Just trying to save every penny here. I think those Xigmatek's are pretty decent for the price!
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Sep 2012 21:09    Post subject:
Prepare for some volcano temperatures with those cheap coolers on ivy bridge. Intel put some shitty thermal paste between IHS and processor core which results about +10c in temperatures compared to good one (if you know how to replace it, warranty is instantly cut off). Not to mention Ivy Bridge generates more heat in general than sandy bridge.
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trashd




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Sep 2012 21:49    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Prepare for some volcano temperatures with those cheap coolers on ivy bridge.


Well, for 19 bucks more I can get a Cooler Master Hyper 412S. I read a lot of decent reviews for the Xigmatek's though. I won't be overclocking for the time being and the Xigmatek's are a lot better than the stock cooler. I could always throw on some Arctic Silver 5 as well (+13 bucks more) or go for an i5 2500k instead (if it's still in stock).
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Frant
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 13:09    Post subject:
You went for Ivy Bridge instead of Sandy???

The Ivy's are notorious for getting hotter than hell (mainly due to Intel cheaping out on the internal cooling paste) and thus require a lot more cooling and power to overclock to 2500k/2600k levels. But you do have a more modern GPU-component in the Ivy Bridge chip. Cool Face

In fact, the whole point of the Ivy's were to implement the new GPU cores into the chip to compete with AMDs APU's (which is sort of ridiculous since nobody buying high performance components would ever plan on using the shitty on-core GPU to begin with).


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trashd




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 13:37    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
You went for Ivy Bridge instead of Sandy???


Not really. The i5 2500k wasn't in stock at the moment and while I was researching other parts of the build, I totally forgot about the reason for going for the Sandy Bridge. Any more thoughts on the best air cooling solution (nothing too huge please) would be appreciated.
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farne




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 16:03    Post subject:
Noctua U12P SE2.
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trashd




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 22:20    Post subject:
farne wrote:
Noctua U12P SE2.


Too big!! Can't I just get a Cooler Master Hyper 412S? I'm not sticking some huge chunk like that in my machine. Do I have to?
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farne




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 22:32    Post subject:
trashd wrote:
farne wrote:
Noctua U12P SE2.


Too big!! Can't I just get a Cooler Master Hyper 412S? I'm not sticking some huge chunk like that in my machine. Do I have to?


What? The Noctua is smaller.

Noctua: 126 × 158 × 71 mm
Cooler Master: 132 × 160 × 99 mm
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trashd




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 22:40    Post subject:
farne wrote:
What? The Noctua is smaller.
Noctua: 126 × 158 × 71 mm
Cooler Master: 132 × 160 × 99 mm


You are correct sir. I think it's the two fans that make it even larger. That Cooler Master is also large, come to think about it. 92 x 134 x 50 mm sounds like the sweet spot to me. What's wrong with Coolermaster?
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farne




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2012 23:04    Post subject:
trashd wrote:
farne wrote:
What? The Noctua is smaller.
Noctua: 126 × 158 × 71 mm
Cooler Master: 132 × 160 × 99 mm


You are correct sir. I think it's the two fans that make it even larger. That Cooler Master is also large, come to think about it. 92 x 134 x 50 mm sounds like the sweet spot to me. What's wrong with Coolermaster?


What's wrong with Coolermaster is that it isn't Noctua. Razz
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Sep 2012 09:00    Post subject:
True Spirit 120 is also very good for its price, its like 25€ in here.
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