The question is not if they are spraying or not, and, unless you're retarded, you'll understand that they do.
Holy hell, I've been living my whole life not knowing I was retarted..thankfully you have given this concrete gauge to us to use to validate if we are.
Why resort to using the "unless you think X, you are retarded..and you dont want to be retarded do you? of course you dont.. so agreeing with this means we BOTH admit you are not retarded" passive suggestive phrase?
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There are rumours that when these billioniers/royals meet, they specificaly ask not to include GMO food in their meals. Worth to note.
its only worth 'noting' if its a fact..not a rumor.
There is a rumor that bigfoot is stalking my neighbors yard pissing on his bushes..that worth noting? no...its worth going "can you prove it? no its just a conspiracy theory that validates another conspiracy theory"
Do not confuse the 2 as being of equal importance to a conclusionary theory.
taking 2 rumors, and linking them does not give any more validity to either of them.
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Holy hell, I've been living my whole life not knowing I was retarted..thankfully you have given this concrete gauge to us to use to validate if we are.
Why resort to using the "unless you think X, you are retarded..and you dont want to be retarded do you? of course you dont.. so agreeing with this means we BOTH admit you are not retarded" passive suggestive phrase?
In this ocean of "witty" "facepalm" pics I think I can.
DXWarlock wrote:
Of all the ways to distribute whatever chemical they are supposedly 'spraying' that would have to be one of the MOST inefficient ways to get it to the populous. Fuel cost vs efficiency, covertness would be out the window, prediction of where it actually lands, vs weather/jetstream/wind gusts that cant be predicted.
Even IF they could calculate with 100% to the area that it lands, what, perhaps 0.00001% of it sprayed lands on people, with the remainder landing harmlessly on the land. or in places that it would never have any direct contact with people.
I myself cannot see it as any type of viable theory..with up to 99% of the population of any city consuming city supplied water or bathing in it, eating food that passes thru govt controlled inspection stations, and the like..there is ways MUCH more covert, and effective if they was wanting to pass out poisions than spraying the skys and hoping that a tiny tiny percentage of it makes it in contact with a person at any level needed to take effect.
Going through the lungs is a good idea and covering by noble "climate change" idea. Which is completely new and unexplored so you can tell anything you want. Also when the spray gets into the land, it then gets into the water suply too. Bees are also dying masively because of chemtrailing. Noo bees no "pizza".
DXWarlock wrote:
Freakness wrote:
There are rumours that when these billioniers/royals meet, they specificaly ask not to include GMO food in their meals. Worth to note.
its only worth 'noting' if its a fact..not a rumor.
There is a rumor that bigfoot is stalking my neighbors yard pissing on his bushes..that worth noting? no...its worth going "can you prove it? no its just a conspiracy theory that validates another conspiracy theory"
Do not confuse the 2 as being of equal importance to a conclusionary theory.
taking 2 rumors, and linking them does not give any more validity to either of them.
I just said watch out and thats all. Just a rumour. I'm not trying to tie these together.
Bees are also dying masively because of chemtrailing.
Proof?
or is it all heresay?
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Going through the lungs is a good idea and covering by noble "climate change" idea. Which is completely new and unexplored so you can tell anything you want. Also when the spray gets into the land, it then gets into the water suply too. Bees are also dying masively because of chemtrailing. Noo bees no "pizza".
Climate change is new and unexplored? or is it perhaps you are uninformed of the research and long standing statisical data on it, and of the assumption since its new to you, its new and fresh to everyone else also?
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You want the same government who sprays us admit their crimes? Its like asking Dick Cheney about the war in Iraq and expect the truth. Even if some agency admits it, the other one pops up and says its unrelated. Bees started dying at approx the same time chemtrails started.
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Bees are also dying masively because of chemtrailing. Noo bees no "pizza".
Actually, the decline in bee populations has been narrowed down to the use of a specific pesticide produced by a German company that is used in farming all over the world.
Nothing to do with chemtrails, because chemtrails don't exist.
Going through the lungs is a good idea and covering by noble "climate change" idea. Which is completely new and unexplored so you can tell anything you want. Also when the spray gets into the land, it then gets into the water suply too. Bees are also dying masively because of chemtrailing. Noo bees no "pizza".
Climate change is new and unexplored? or is it perhaps you are uninformed of the research and long standing statisical data on it, and of the assumption since its new to you, its new and fresh to everyone else also?
In the seventies the news media use to convince people that there is global cooling coming soon.[I cant find that video anymore] Nowdays its all global warming propaganda and they introduced carbon tax so countries would stop developing so rapidly.
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Nothing to do with chemtrails, because chemtrails don't exist.
Dude, stop subscribing to those stupid podcasts and ask your money back.
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You want the same government who sprays us admit their crimes? Its like asking Dick Cheney about the war in Iraq and expect the truth. Even if some agency admits it, the other one pops up and says its unrelated.
You and Ron been having lunch together haven't you?
So you proof that it happens, is that the deny it happens..and ANYONE that does it, would of course deny such a thing...so denial is the evidence of guilt?
There is no way the scientific community as a whole can be in on this. hell not even 50% id say..that would be an impossible feat.
So surely there must be some large outstanding reports and evidence recorded, and reported, numerous times by highly creditable people of the field that are part of the ones not covering up for it.
Care to share some of these reports? some that are beyond the fringe rouge 'backyard scientist' that also things the pyramids are energy collectors, and that aliens helped build it?
Im merely stating for you to feel so strongly about it, without personal verification of your own studies, there MUST be some solid proof that is presented and validated by scientists that OTHER scientist don't mutually agree are crackpots.
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Yeah, I bet Dick Cheney is your boyfriend or you're just dumb. Theres no other explanation.
Freakness wrote:
You want the same government who sprays us admit their crimes? Its like asking Dick Cheney about the war in Iraq and expect the truth. Even if some agency admits it, the other one pops up and says its unrelated. Bees started dying at approx the same time chemtrails started.
Looks like you got some specific issues concerning Dick Cheney...
]In the seventies the news media use to convince people that there is global cooling coming soon.[I cant find that video anymore] Nowdays its all global warming propaganda and they introduced carbon tax so countries would stop developing so rapidly.
Again, proof of this by a majority founded scientific group? Or are you of the opinion that all scientist (or most) are all in on this...as if somehow we cant even get countries to agree not to kill each other, but somehow we have convinced every scientific studies student and professor and practitioner the world over, to be 'hush hush' about things.
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In the seventies the news media use to convince people that there is global cooling coming soon.[I cant find that video anymore] Nowdays its all global warming propaganda and they introduced carbon tax so countries would stop developing so rapidly.
And I beleive you are confusing 2 thing that are unrelated, because they share a similar term.
Global cooling is a cycle of the earth, with or without us..that was discussed and confirmed in the 60's and 70's. caused the fluctuations and rythem of the earths orbit in relation to the sun and its angle.
global WARMING is the effect we are causing on the current state we are in.
One is a cycle of ice ages..the other is the effect we are having on ozone and protective layers.
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Fuck this thread, this guy is clearly an imbecile.
I wouldn't go that far.
hes just in the state of "a little information for someone is more dangerous than a lot of information"
confusing details, for the lack of having the others, to equate internally what the result and link between them is.
Because he has a handful of data, and trying to assume what they truckload it came from looks like while still imagining it fits what he wishes and believes of the govt and hand selecting other data that matches what he has to back his up, while discarding any that appose it as "govt coverup". which is the OPPOSITE of actual research and discovery practices.
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Also worth to note some people ran polygraph software when Manbearpig [Al Gore] himself speaks about global warming most of what he says is detected as a lie. Crappy software I'm sure.
As for documents there were two major ones. One is german and one is belgian. Those are only two I knew of exsisting. Havent read them yet.
If one professor starts to blab about chemtrails or some similar topic, he would face problems. He would be ridiculed just like Galileo Galilei. Why fuck with the government when you can dig for dinosaur poop?
Quoting "The question is not if they are spraying or not, and, unless you're retarded, you'll understand that they do. The question is what is in the spray and how can we, the people, stop it."
Im probably retarded...
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Yes, lets resort to using lie detectors to do conclusive studies on climate change...IGNORE the data collected..just toss it in the trash because some guy on a flaky at best device was detected as lying..when he wasnt EITHER the one that collected the data, OR the guy that understands the datas details.
Are you seriously saying that a vice president was seen as lying, makes you disregard all ACTUAL scientific evidence for the subject?
I don't want 'documentaries" anyone with a camera and video software can make one.
I want verified, and validated statistical data that's presented by someone that actually does that line of studies. Not some hobby extremist that pigeonholes only the choice data to get his point across.
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OH Im n the same saus.
Om not saying "they CANT exist or IMPOSSIBLE they are"
I'm saying by the evidence presented by respectable scientist, and data collected..that the 'facts' are flimsy and transparent at best..more a 'hope' they are real, than anything useful to determine it.
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Yes, lets resort to using lie detectors to do conclusive studies on climate change...IGNORE the data collected..just toss it in the trash because some guy on a flaky at best device was detected as lying..when he wasnt EITHER the one that collected the data, OR the guy that understands the datas details.
Are you seriously saying that a vice president was seen as lying, makes you disregard all ACTUAL scientific evidence for the subject?
I don't want 'documentaries" anyone with a camera and video software can make one.
I want verified, and validated statistical data that's presented by someone that actually does that line of studies. Not some hobby extremist that pigeonholes only the choice data to get his point across.
Climate change is just a theory. Chemical spraying is a fact. Some scientists say that humans do not affect temperature as much as the sun. Sun may be more active thats all. Even if it gets hotter by 1 degree celcius, is it worth poisoning the environment?
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Meh, i'm 50/50 on this subject.
For me all the evidence isn't fully solid.
But as always, i'm open for it. I wouldn't deny it, neither confirm it atm.
Here, while you decide, use it as a screensaver lol.
If one professor starts to blab about chemtrails or some similar topic, he would face problems. He would be ridiculed just like Galileo Galilei. Why fuck with the government when you can dig for dinosaur poop?
Really? you bleive this 'being right is dangerous when the govt is wrong" ideal of the scientific community?
are you oblivious to the past 2 centuries of scientist doing EXACTLY this..for all most EVERY major discovery, claim, and breakthru we have had?
Some examples
Atomic power
Atomic bombs
Radioactivity
MANY MANY chemicals used to be prove harmful despite govt approving their usages in food and products.
Plastic manufacturing processes that was cheaper yet more toxic to mankind. forcing a change of regulations on such for human safety.
The long term effects of agent orange, and convincing a ban on it to all nations in the UN because of its usage in wartime as a 'short term' solution.
And about 4000 more.
so you are saying "sure sure, science and its practitioners fight tooth and nail against big govt ALL the time, unless its about these things..then they just roll over"
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Climate change is just a theory. Chemical spraying is a fact. Some scientists say that humans do not affect temperature as much as the sun. Sun may be more active thats all. Even if it gets hotter by 1 degree celcius, is it worth poisoning the environment?
you keep saying this that spraying is a fact..where is the proof and facts? obviously there is TONS of it..give a few actual credible examples.
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Ok how come I never heard of chemtrails? Almost noone talks about them in the media? Why the government did not inform us about it when they started it? Is the Earth warming so rapidly like 10 degrees per day and heavy spraying is nessesary?
Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually. Would you spit your boss in the face?
I'd like YOU to show me scientific studies of why chemtrailing is nessesary.
Ok how come I never heard of chemtrails? Almost noone talks about them in the media? Why the government did not inform us about it when they started it? Is the Earth warming so rapidly like 10 degrees per day and heavy spraying is nessesary?
Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually. Would you spit your boss in the face?
I'd like YOU to show me scientific studies of why chemtrailing is nessesary.
Because the media doesn't cover bigfoot sightings, or alien abductions..lack of coverage doesnt equal 'cover up'. for it to be 'news' it has to be at least proven past random people going "I THINK ITS THIS! and others do to, so there is your proof".
And the most they do is cloud seed, and the govt DID and STILL DOES inform you of when they do it....again your lack of information is your counter argument that it doesn't happen?
And the last part of your argument hinges on that the spraying happens, that its purpose is a given, and that the results of it are proven...all heresay..
so to ask 'why is chemtrails necessary' dictates that first its needs to be PROVEN they are..to even validate 'why' as needing an answer.
So you are asking me for a video proving why they do something....that they dont do?
thats how you win..a double negative?
Thats like asking "Give me a video proving why bigfoot needs to wipe his ass with pine needles" when someone claims they saw him do it.
for this
Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually.
Im done with the argument..you have NO idea about anything scientific, the methods used, the process of it, or the actual practice of it other than it has to do with 'sciency things' it seems.
So im done..its like Im arguing with the devil about the lack of gods existence here...
Try picking up some knowledge of what you are debunking (scientific fields) before arguing against them.
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Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually. Would you spit your boss in the face?
you DO realize only about 5-10% of jobs dealing with scientific studies are solely govt sponsored? where do you get this "govt gives them jobs most the time".
Or is it that it neatly ties up the ends of "govt bad" and "scientist bad" in a near package to make wild claims like that?
You should take up being a magician...you have a unique talent for "pulling claims and data out of your ass" that would mesmerize audiences.
stand on stage and *POOF* random made up data out of no where!
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Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually. Would you spit your boss in the face?
Freakness wrote:
Well, they view depopulation as a higher purpose thing. Also there are areas which are safer perhaps. Who knows...
So the scientists are pussies who value their job, but do not value their families, because there's a 'higher purpose'
A perfectly good logic to me.
I wasnt talking about scientists, but about the government crazies.
DXWarlock wrote:
Freakness wrote:
Ok how come I never heard of chemtrails? Almost noone talks about them in the media? Why the government did not inform us about it when they started it? Is the Earth warming so rapidly like 10 degrees per day and heavy spraying is nessesary?
Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually. Would you spit your boss in the face?
I'd like YOU to show me scientific studies of why chemtrailing is nessesary.
Because the media doesn't cover bigfoot sightings, or alien abductions..lack of coverage doesnt equal 'cover up'. for it to be 'news' it has to be at least proven past random people going "I THINK ITS THIS! and others do to, so there is your proof".
And the most they do is cloud seed, and the govt DID and STILL DOES inform you of when they do it....again your lack of information is your counter argument that it doesn't happen?
And the last part of your argument hinges on that the spraying happens, that its purpose is a given, and that the results of it are proven...all heresay..
so to ask 'why is chemtrails necessary' dictates that first its needs to be PROVEN they are..to even validate 'why' as needing an answer.
So you are asking me for a video proving why they do something....that they dont do?
thats how you win..a double negative?
Thats like asking "Give me a video proving why bigfoot needs to wipe his ass with pine needles" when someone claims they saw him do it.
for this
Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually.
Im done with the argument..you have NO idea about anything scientific, the methods used, the process of it, or the actual practice of it other than it has to do with 'sciency things' it seems.
So im done..its like Im arguing with the devil about the lack of gods existence here...
Try picking up some knowledge of what you are debunking (scientific fields) before arguing against them.
Chemtrailing is a fact. You dont agree. Lets agree to disagree. If you think there is no chemtrail program going on, then I cant discuss the obvious things with you any further either.
DXWarlock wrote:
Freakness wrote:
Scientists are fucking pussies and they value their jobs and gov gives them jobs usually. Would you spit your boss in the face?
you DO realize only about 5-10% of jobs dealing with scientific studies are govt sponsored? where do you get this "govt gives them jobs most the time".
Or is it that it neatly ties up the ends of "govt bad" and "scientist bad" in a near package to make wild claims like that?
5-10% where? US? Morocco? Where I live its mostly government funded.
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