XCOM: Enemy Unknown
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smblion




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 14:14    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
smblion wrote:
I'm sure the data files will be hacked open and it'll have a bunch of mods within the first few months to a year.

I doubt you'll see much beyond INI hacks and textures edits. While you can extract cooked Unreal content, repacking it is another thing altogether.


Or you're wrong.

No, you're probably right, and I was born an hour ago!
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 17:56    Post subject:
so it got 9.5 from game informer
Quote:
Concept:
Defend the earth from a terrifying alien invasion with global strategy and boots-on-the-ground tactical genius
Graphics:
The Unreal Engine 3 graphics won’t win any technical awards, but the presentation does a great job of making turn-based strategy visually interesting
b]Sound:[/b]
Michael McCann’s futuristic score is exceptional. The voice work is competent, but too limited
Playability:
The occasional line-of-sight problem is a price worth paying for this otherwise excellent minimalist interface, which works equally well on gamepad or mouse/keyboard
Entertainment:
The XCOM team’s love for the unapologetic hardcore PC games of old is matched by its unwavering dedication to making the world and events personal and immediate in a way the strategy genre has never achieved
Replay:
High



PC port note:
Code:
The PC version is slightly superior thanks to improved textures and resolution and drastically lower load times, but those are minor differences. XCOM plays equally well with mouse/keyboard and gamepad, and features identical content across all three platforms, so grab it for whichever system you prefer.


(http://www.gameinformer.com/games/xcom_enemy_unknown/b/xbox360/archive/2012/10/05/review.aspx)
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 18:22    Post subject:
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Jake didn't like XCOM's combat. Combat 2.0, as it was then called, was very similar to the combat in the original game. For him it was too similar. Its turn-based action had time units and large squads, just like the original, and cover was nowhere near as important as it is now. But layered on top were unit abilities and other new features. It was a straight up remake of the original with a sprinkle of modern day mechanics, and it wasn't working.

"We were overburdening this old combat system with all these new things we wanted to do," Jake tells me in the lobby, not far from the room they call the Fish Bowl. "It was a mistake design wise."

"I was like, I don't think this is working all that well. I think I need to go away and think about this for a little bit. People were like, this is cool! This is just like the original XCOM! But people who didn't know the original XCOM were like, this is a little weird. I get what's fun about this but it's a little strange.

People thought the reworked combat system which was akin to the old X-Com was cool, but the lead designer changed it to what it is, so as to better appeal to the console audience, well thats not what he says, but it's between the lines.
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OchoBits




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 20:36    Post subject:
Preload is up. Like 12 Gigs.

Waiting for my key, and same as Darksiders II fuckers think that Latin America is in Europe or some shit.

They should release the game the same day as a "thank you" note for not pirating everything like we always do here.
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Guyver




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 20:39    Post subject:
waiting for my key on GMG... they even added civ5 for pre-purchasers! Very Happy


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OchoBits




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 21:09    Post subject:
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We can now announce that pre-loading will be available from Green Man Gaming. Keys for all those who have pre-purchased will start going out in approximately 7 hours time from now, at 0200 UTC October 6th. Please remain calm if you do not receive your key
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smblion




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 21:10    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:

People thought the reworked combat system which was akin to the old X-Com was cool, but the lead designer changed it to what it is, so as to better appeal to the console audience, well thats not what he says, but it's between the lines.


"it's between the lines" is another way of saying the product of your paranoid mind Wink

I don't know how their original design went, but the 2 action system is pretty slick, and I say that as a PC gamer. It's similar to a number of games, tabletop card games, pen and paper RPGs, etc. The console argument is short sighted.

Their multiplayer design uses a strict time limit system to keep the game flowing and intensity levels high. Simplifying action points was a necessary step, in my humble opinion. A 90 second turn timer would not have worked using the outdated time unit system.

Other tactical remakes have also ditched time units. Jagged Alliance Back in Action abandoned time units for actual measurements in seconds and hundredths of seconds, and a real time system which allows pausing at any moment to re-evaluate commands. However, that kind of system could not have worked with X-COMs multiplayer goals.
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00101010




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 21:34    Post subject:
Dunno if it has been linked already but here is some original concept gameplay. (with TimeUnits still in the game)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/03/the-rebirth-of-xcom-see-the-original-pitch-video-and-a-commentary
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murgo




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 21:37    Post subject:
i just got the game gifted from russia.. as i expected, it is NOT region-locked. just started pre-loading Smile


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smblion




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 21:38    Post subject:
It should be emphasized that this game is built on a 3D engine which has been modded by fans for years. I think it's a safe bet there could be some remarkable things done. It may not be the simplest thing to mod at first, but if the data files get cracked open, we could see total conversions and modifications to gameplay. I'd love to see a WH40K skirmish mod based on this engine, just to suggest an example of what we may see in the coming years.

The only hurdle I see to such a thing would be a better competing turn based tactical game being released in the next year or two. Hrm, shadowrun returns maybe?
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ExcaliburB




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 22:48    Post subject:
So when can we expect a release?

I'm dying to try this out. I thought the release was the 6th, but Steam is saying the 8th. Argh. Sad
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OchoBits




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 23:11    Post subject:
If it uses CEG. It will take a while.
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smblion




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 23:24    Post subject:
ExcaliburB wrote:
So when can we expect a release?

I'm dying to try this out. I thought the release was the 6th, but Steam is saying the 8th. Argh. Sad


it's october 9th, which is what steam says, unless they advanced release by a day
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locke89




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 23:53    Post subject:
GMG is sending out keys. Pre-loading now and it's quite big actually (that's what she said) - 12.4GB, but I guess most of it are movies...
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ExcaliburB




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 00:36    Post subject:
Meh, oh, well. I guess it there won't be a release till next week. Sad
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asbogdan




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 15:53    Post subject:
I understand that it's not going to get out on the pc until the 9th but how it is not out for the xbox is a big mistery. Hopefully it's not because the lack of interest for such kind of games.


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Ohshi




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 16:26    Post subject:
asbogdan wrote:
I understand that it's not going to get out on the pc until the 9th but how it is not out for the xbox is a big mistery. Hopefully it's not because the lack of interest for such kind of games.


There is no piracy on consoles Very Happy
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asbogdan




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 16:33    Post subject:
Ohshi wrote:
asbogdan wrote:
I understand that it's not going to get out on the pc until the 9th but how it is not out for the xbox is a big mistery. Hopefully it's not because the lack of interest for such kind of games.


There is no piracy on consoles Very Happy


For this Saturday only I hope there is. I don't feel like drinking two nights in a row. Razz


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 17:17    Post subject:
I would assume the protection on PC would be the same as Civ V..though releases are a mystery these days.
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.Bole




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 20:38    Post subject:
are keys from cddiski.ru region locked ?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:20    Post subject:
XCOM.Enemy.Unknown.XBOX360-iMARS


PC piracy is killing gaming lol wut
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Zwane




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:22    Post subject:
come on reloaded , release this shit fastest Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
XCOM.Enemy.Unknown.XBOX360-iMARS


PC piracy is killing gaming lol wut
Seriously, if I ever win the lottery I'm buying everyone in here a derpbox, mod it and have you guys DL'ing the shit out of those ISO's Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Ohshi




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
XCOM.Enemy.Unknown.XBOX360-iMARS


Rejoice, asbogdan! Very Happy

P.S. I still think there's nothing wrong in drinking for two days straight.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
XCOM.Enemy.Unknown.XBOX360-iMARS


PC piracy is killing gaming lol wut


I remember i read in one article that everything is because PC players pirate games for consoles Razz


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:23    Post subject:
I've already got a 360... and a PS3.. and a Wii... and many other consoles too Razz I'm still waiting on the superior PC version \o/
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Ohshi




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:26    Post subject:
Koliblank wrote:

I remember i read in one article that everything is because PC players pirate games for consoles Razz


Lies! Mad
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:27    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've already got a 360... and a PS3.. and a Wii... and many other consoles too Razz I'm still waiting on the superior PC version \o/


i wish i had your strength.
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:27    Post subject:
I sold my console, games were too derp..
Only used it for Rock band.


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and yes, mine is only average
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2012 21:28    Post subject:
Ishkur123 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've already got a 360... and a PS3.. and a Wii... and many other consoles too Razz I'm still waiting on the superior PC version \o/


i wish i had your strength.


Honestly mate, it's three days. I've got a bunch of other games to play too and for the sake of THREE days? To play the obviously, vastly, superior version? Yeah.. no contest Very Happy
StrEagle wrote:
I sold my console, games were too derp..


I guess you never played Valkyria Chronicles or Resonance of Fate Razz There are thousands of "non derp" games on consoles Smile
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