Dishonored (Arkane + Harvey Smith + Viktor Antonov!)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:23    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Human Revolution had something really special that this game doesn't have.


Tech! I love me some steampunk just as much as the next man ... but nothing compares to cyberpunk and/or futuristic dystopias with grimy weather, high tech hackables and plentiful gadgets So Much Win Besides, as far as storytelling goes - and excluding the "room with four buttons" (grr...) - DXHR wins hands down.
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blackdochia




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:30    Post subject:
Indeed, Deus Ex: Human Revolution wins in so many areas. Now, if they've done the non-lethal approach for the bosses, like Dishonored did, the game would be almost perfect.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:32    Post subject:
Yep as much as I loved Dishonored and it being my GoTY, Deus Ex HR is above it Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:34    Post subject:
Now, if they'd been released in the SAME YEAR... that would just be cruel Very Happy
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:41    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Human Revolution had something really special that this game doesn't have.


Tech! I love me some steampunk just as much as the next man ... but nothing compares to cyberpunk and/or futuristic dystopias with grimy weather, high tech hackables and plentiful gadgets So Much Win Besides, as far as storytelling goes - and excluding the "room with four buttons" (grr...) - DXHR wins hands down.

Exactly. Tech, the atmosphere, dialogues, the characters, the music (!)..damn we have to wait so much until we can play something like that. Razz
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:42    Post subject:
The music! So Much Win I have never, not once in my life, been so overjoyed to have been wrong in my initial fears; DXHR was, and forever will be, glorious Very Happy
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blackdochia




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:46    Post subject:
Now where is that sequel, Deus Ex 4, i believe it wil be called?!
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 22:52    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The music! So Much Win I have never, not once in my life, been so overjoyed to have been wrong in my initial fears; DXHR was, and forever will be, glorious Very Happy


I could listen to the main menu music continously for like 30 minutes, really loved that one.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 23:27    Post subject:
I finished Dishonored yesterday and with DXHR in the back of my mind, Dishonored feels like a 8/10 game. Still very, very good, but nothing to piss my pants about.
Had it been released a year and a half ago, I would have probably given it 9,6/10 and written numerous posts in this thread how it is the best stealth game since Splinter Cell 3.

The game lacks NPC interactions during the missions. The sections in the pub are great, but each time you leave for a mission you know that your next two to three hours will only consist of choking guards until you reach the target. DXHR always had surprises in store and you never knew what to expect, but Dishonored becomes routine halfway through the game (except for the party mission).
Still, this is mere nitpicking, the game is great overall.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 23:33    Post subject:
Deus Ex stealth wasn't that good, really. And the combat was repetitive. Not to mention press-the-button-something-awesome-happens Typhoon BS. And that half the upgrades were useless.

And button-pressing ending, lol, brb quicksaving and pressing each button for the video, wow CONSEQUENCES !
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 23:39    Post subject:
Deux Ex HR stealth was veeeeery good. And yeah the combat was kind of a weak point, bit still more diverse than in most modern games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2012 23:58    Post subject:
Need to install this as soon as I finish 234254 of games I still need to finish


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 00:00    Post subject:
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shole




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 01:38    Post subject:
blackdochia wrote:
my pilot lady Very Happy

heh..
yea, i just loved her as a character
and not in a sexualized kind of way, but she felt like a person in that world where most were just cardboard characters
there was something real there
well written and well played
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 11:31    Post subject:
I HATE this game... well, a particular aspect of it....

I tend to forget to quick save.. f5... So I play for an hour or more, change zone, do something stupid (like teleporting to a place) and die... and have to redo 1+ hour of gameplay because I forgot to quick save... Where's a proper auto-save when you need it... Crying or Very sad

(i've ended up at the same save point twice in a row now)


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 11:52    Post subject:
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 12:10    Post subject:
I prefer this to Human Revolution. Yes, I enjoyed the future-tech aspect much more in Human Revolution - But in terms of actual gameplay Dishonored is simply a better game.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 12:32    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
I prefer this to Human Revolution. Yes, I enjoyed the future-tech aspect much more in Human Revolution - But in terms of actual gameplay Dishonored is simply a better game.


Definitely, imagine if Deus EX stayed in first person all the time and made it as good as Dishonored with the movement and combat. Hope they will do that for 4. And more open levels like Dishonored with more paths and no boss battles.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 12:36    Post subject:
I disagree that Dishonered has more open levels, the areas are relatively small. There are just more vertical possibilities.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 12:39    Post subject:
I agree. I prefer Dishonored's level design and overall gameplay more, but DXHR had a much tighter narrative that kept me more invested in the story. Can't go wrong with either though, shit, we're getting spoiled lately

So Much Win
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 13:46    Post subject:
I'm thinking of getting this via cddiski. I know about having to activate the game through VPN but on here http://www.gamekeys4u.net/content/20-download-play-region-blocked-steam-games it says that you have to start the game via vpn first, and then follow those steps to play it without. It says about having to add a non-steam game via the exe. Will it still show up as an official game on Steam or a Non-Steam game?

If that makes sense?
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madness




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 13:55    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I HATE this game... well, a particular aspect of it....

I tend to forget to quick save.. f5... So I play for an hour or more, change zone, do something stupid (like teleporting to a place) and die... and have to redo 1+ hour of gameplay because I forgot to quick save... Where's a proper auto-save when you need it... Crying or Very sad

(i've ended up at the same save point twice in a row now)


there is Autosave...but you have to load them manually I guess, quickloading only loads the latest quicksave.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 14:10    Post subject:
quickloading loads the latest quicksave. If you die it loads the latest autosave or quicksave, depending on which one is the newest.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 16:23    Post subject:
Holy shit, I already did the first 3 missions and the story is moving WAY too fast, are they gonna put out an expansion or something ? They haven't even put a patch out ... weird.

Anyway, in my first mission I did 40 hostile kills and a couple of innocents and now my Chaos is sstuck at High, even though I just killed some weepers. Well, it said 13 hostile kills Sad

It's annoying because the rat infestation is getting out of hand lol, and the weepers, so there's more deaths. Will I be able to bring Chaos down ?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 16:25    Post subject:
Weepers count as kills, the only things you can kill that don't count against you are dogs and rats. All humanoid kills contribute to Chaos .. and the only way to reduce that is to stop killing. Clear a mission or two without killing people to reduce Chaos.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 16:26    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Weepers count as kills, the only things you can kill that don't count against you are dogs and rats.


and river krusts Smile those things are a pain in the ass..
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 16:28    Post subject:
Aye, those too .. I'd forgotten about them Very Happy They remind me of Poison Lillies in Phantasy Star Online, the only thing River Crusts don't do is that sinister laugh when they hit you Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 16:31    Post subject:
Also, will the next missions also share locations ? They are partly reusing the maps AND there's minimal dialog AND the side missions are piss-easy AND STILL the game will be short.
sabin1981 wrote:
Weepers count as kills, the only things you can kill that don't count against you are dogs and rats. All humanoid kills contribute to Chaos .. and the only way to reduce that is to stop killing. Clear a mission or two without killing people to reduce Chaos.

Will try. Sad

Spoiler :
I lured those assassins to the two thugs guarding the distillery and they got pwnt without even getting a kill. Lol at whiskey fire breathing !
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shole




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 17:47    Post subject:
i would just go for the high chaos playthrough in your situation and do a low chaos playthrough next time
some things and characters change with high vs. low chaos
and the gameplay is quite different with lethal and non-lethal styles
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