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Good directing, many takes, etc. History has proven that even awful actors, when combined with good directors, can produce good results. Doesn't make them very good.
On a side note, even if she is a great actress, if she wastes her talent on crap like romcoms and Hunger Games teen crappola, this is worse than her being a bad actress having a fluke.
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The 25 Reich - 4/10.
Australian indie flick about time travel and robo spider nazis. I gave it 4 out of 10 'cause I've seen far worse films than this one. It had some decent acting for indie flick with 0 to none budget. Over all too long and boring first 50 minutes of the film (from 80). Had some cool robo spider nazi design and pretty awesome opening credits.
Overall if you want to watch it just the watch trailer, it has most of the cool scenes in it except the robo assrape scene.
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| Mister_s wrote: | | How does acting good/great not make an actress a good/great actress? So it might've been just a fluke? |
The point is that good acting in one film doesn't necessarily mean one of the best of her age. Pretty simple, isn't it?
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| Casus wrote: | | Doh! wrote: | | Casus wrote: | | She has a nice body - but I find her somewhat limited in terms of range. Also, Hunger Games was pretty much on par with Prometheus for utter stupidity from the characters and overall inane plotline. |
Haha Jennifer Lawrence is one of the best actresses her age. Why is she limited and dont tell me you just seen Hunger Games and base it all on that... |
Why don't you start by telling me why she's one of the best actresses her age, and don't tell me you've just seen Hunger Games and base it all on that. |
Wow 13 much? Why state such opinions if you dont want to back them? You talked about her like she is some kind of eye candy blond girl and that made me laugh.
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| Doh! wrote: | | Casus wrote: | | Doh! wrote: |
Haha Jennifer Lawrence is one of the best actresses her age. Why is she limited and dont tell me you just seen Hunger Games and base it all on that... |
Why don't you start by telling me why she's one of the best actresses her age, and don't tell me you've just seen Hunger Games and base it all on that. |
Wow 13 much? Why state such opinions if you dont want to back them? You talked about her like she is some kind of eye candy blond girl and that made me laugh. |
I have no problem backing my opinion, but you're talking as if you don't have to back your own. So, in this case - you first. Then I'll gladly clarify my own.
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| Casus wrote: | | Doh! wrote: | | Casus wrote: |
Why don't you start by telling me why she's one of the best actresses her age, and don't tell me you've just seen Hunger Games and base it all on that. |
Wow 13 much? Why state such opinions if you dont want to back them? You talked about her like she is some kind of eye candy blond girl and that made me laugh. |
I have no problem backing my opinion, but you're talking as if you don't have to back your own. So, in this case - you first. Then I'll gladly clarify my own. |
Ok ill bite in the hope you give an actual proper reply.
I for the life of me, cannot fault her role in Winters Bone - she was on the screen 90% of the time, so for me SHE made it a great movie - Not John Hawkes like you claim thats on screen for like 5 minutes.
Quite fairly she was nomited for the Academy Award and Golden Globe Award. And Winters Bone won for best film at Sundance Film Festival.
In The Burning Plain she was only a supporting actor, but she stole the scenes she was in as a deeply troubled teen. Which is in stark contrast to her role in The Beaver.
She has been cast as Serena in the up-coming movie of the same name made by Susanne Bier - one of my favorite directors, and her main force is picking the right people for the roles.
In Serena the "limited" miss Lawrence will star in a Depression-era movie, playing the role of an woman that can´t get pregnant.
So for the movies ive seen Jennifer Lawrence in theres the one big lukewarm block buster and five very good smaller movies (Winters Bone was a 2 mill indie), where she acts her ass of, at a whole slew of different roles and emotions.
And that is why she is clearly not limited and I very much look forward to future films by her.
There are two kinds of people I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
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Taken 2 - 4/10
It was basically the same as Taken 1. The taxi scene in istanbul was hilarious and ridiculous at the same time. I mean ...come on...  Spoiler: | she doesn't even have a driving license and I bet she never drove stick in her life before, but she races thru istanbul like a pro driver  . Then there's the thing with the grenades. NO! you can't just run thru a city and throw grenades as you like!?
Another thing that botheres me is at the very beginning of the movie.... the FUCKING border. Do they seriously think the turkish border is guarded by 2 policemen? that's duuuuuuuuuumb. While we're talking about the police....they've used old police cars from the 70's for the chase scenes xD. And I think someone already mentioned it, but the villian was a joke.
Oh and liam neeson saying "I'll be right back" to his wife... that was also fucking hilarious. he said that line like 6 times ?  |
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lol Doh! give it a break. A lot of derps out there just follow a stupid uneducated and a completely biased and sheepish opinion on many things when it comes to movies. Look at the negative view on keanu. Keanu isn't always being a stoner in his movies. In a few he does a really good performance and all in all he's a real decent guy (like really decent and fucking awesome) and people lol at him and call him a derp? 
Some people just want to have a stupid opinion on things because the rest of their internet social circle friends share the same idiotic opinion. it's cool. Jennifer Lawrence can act. she's proven her self. if no one can see that. cool. you're missing out on a few good movies. same with that girl from kick ass. she can act as well. even though she's in remakes. but can still act.
it's shocking we had like 10-15 years of kid actors who had no idea what the fuck to do except look pretty and not become porn stars and now we're getting a slew of child actors who can actually act and idiots out there are calling them derps and non-talented hacks. Love it. I really do.
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Why any of you listen to Casus is beyond me.
he spent the last 3 weeks typing to force his Prometheus opinion on everyone and now he is trying to do the same here.
For what its worth I thought she has been fine in everything I have seen her in, I admit that is not a lot, but she has not seemed 'complete shit and unemotional' in anything I have seen her in.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Saner wrote: | Why any of you listen to Casus is beyond me.
he spent the last 3 weeks typing to force his Prometheus opinion on everyone and now he is trying to do the same here. |
oh right. that guy. fuck that guy and fuck prometheus. even though is pretty much the most gorgeous sci-fi flick i've seen in the past 2 years.
| Ankh wrote: | | And she will be in the next X-men too |
I know. and fassbender and the guy who can't find a solid a role for his life to make him a franchise star even though he should cause he's incredibly talented mcavoy.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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lawrence is pretty, has an amazingly fit body, and can act extremely well for her age, h8ers fuck off...
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Get the gringo 8/10
Hate mel gibson all you want, but the guy still knows how to make stuff like this work really, really well 
This is his first appearance since "At the Edge of Darkness"(which was also a superb movie) too, right?
Such a shame that he doesn't star in movies more often... damn joos! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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ixigia
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Once again I agree with you Toni! Get the Gringo was -suprisingly- great, and yes, we definitely need more movies like this
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 16:40 Post subject: |
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Great, now go see killer joe you tak kurwa!
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| tonizito wrote: | | Great, now go see killer joe you tak kurwa! |
I've already put it in my list ..but Homeland S1 and BSG have the priority at the moment  |
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| Doh! wrote: | | Casus wrote: | | Doh! wrote: |
Wow 13 much? Why state such opinions if you dont want to back them? You talked about her like she is some kind of eye candy blond girl and that made me laugh. |
I have no problem backing my opinion, but you're talking as if you don't have to back your own. So, in this case - you first. Then I'll gladly clarify my own. |
Ok ill bite in the hope you give an actual proper reply.
I for the life of me, cannot fault her role in Winters Bone - she was on the screen 90% of the time, so for me SHE made it a great movie - Not John Hawkes like you claim thats on screen for like 5 minutes.
Quite fairly she was nomited for the Academy Award and Golden Globe Award. And Winters Bone won for best film at Sundance Film Festival.
In The Burning Plain she was only a supporting actor, but she stole the scenes she was in as a deeply troubled teen. Which is in stark contrast to her role in The Beaver.
She has been cast as Serena in the up-coming movie of the same name made by Susanne Bier - one of my favorite directors, and her main force is picking the right people for the roles.
In Serena the "limited" miss Lawrence will star in a Depression-era movie, playing the role of an woman that can´t get pregnant.
So for the movies ive seen Jennifer Lawrence in theres the one big lukewarm block buster and five very good smaller movies (Winters Bone was a 2 mill indie), where she acts her ass of, at a whole slew of different roles and emotions.
And that is why she is clearly not limited and I very much look forward to future films by her. |
Fair enough.
As for John Hawkes - he may have been on screen for a short time - but he certainly made a big impression on me.
As I already said - I think Lawrence did a fine job in Winter's Bone.
I've seen her in 3 movies:
Winter's Bone
X-Men First Class
Hunger Games
In all three films, she's had a very similar "underplaying" - almost repressed style of acting. Now, there's nothing wrong with that - and it certainly fit her role in Winter's Bone. But, as I already said, you can only get so far by underplaying.
To me, her facial expressions and general delivery is like she's partially sleepwalking. Sort of like a female version of Tobey Maquire - which is also a fine actor, but with a similarly limited range.
So, essentially, I think she needs to work on being able to deliver a more passionate range - and she needs to be able to let herself go. Maybe I overlooked something - or maybe I'm forgetting some scenes. But that's my honest opinion after seeing her in those three films.
It's like she's overwhelmed by the experience and she has to compensate by being overly and unnaturally subdued.
I don't know how else to put it.
Does that make any sense?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 18:06 Post subject: |
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| Saner wrote: | Why any of you listen to Casus is beyond me.
he spent the last 3 weeks typing to force his Prometheus opinion on everyone and now he is trying to do the same here.
For what its worth I thought she has been fine in everything I have seen her in, I admit that is not a lot, but she has not seemed 'complete shit and unemotional' in anything I have seen her in. |
Who said she was complete shit and unemotional?
I said she was a fine young actress with a limited range.
If you're going to dismiss my opinions - at least be an adult about it. As in, know what they are.
Or is that asking too much of you?
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| VonMisk wrote: | | You forgot the smash hit - The Beaver, which was after The Edge of Darkness, kurwa! |
Oops.
Yet another one to DL, then
Nice avatar BTW 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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I always liked Mel Gibson - but I think Get the Gringo is nothing more than a slightly above average film. But, personal life aside, the guy has (or at least had) serious talent.
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The Beaver! Another good performance by Jennifer Lawrence
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 20:15 Post subject: |
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The Day (2011) - 8/10 . Amazing movie
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| Casus wrote: | | Doh! wrote: | | Casus wrote: |
I have no problem backing my opinion, but you're talking as if you don't have to back your own. So, in this case - you first. Then I'll gladly clarify my own. |
Ok ill bite in the hope you give an actual proper reply.
I for the life of me, cannot fault her role in Winters Bone - she was on the screen 90% of the time, so for me SHE made it a great movie - Not John Hawkes like you claim thats on screen for like 5 minutes.
Quite fairly she was nomited for the Academy Award and Golden Globe Award. And Winters Bone won for best film at Sundance Film Festival.
In The Burning Plain she was only a supporting actor, but she stole the scenes she was in as a deeply troubled teen. Which is in stark contrast to her role in The Beaver.
She has been cast as Serena in the up-coming movie of the same name made by Susanne Bier - one of my favorite directors, and her main force is picking the right people for the roles.
In Serena the "limited" miss Lawrence will star in a Depression-era movie, playing the role of an woman that can´t get pregnant.
So for the movies ive seen Jennifer Lawrence in theres the one big lukewarm block buster and five very good smaller movies (Winters Bone was a 2 mill indie), where she acts her ass of, at a whole slew of different roles and emotions.
And that is why she is clearly not limited and I very much look forward to future films by her. |
Fair enough.
As for John Hawkes - he may have been on screen for a short time - but he certainly made a big impression on me.
As I already said - I think Lawrence did a fine job in Winter's Bone.
I've seen her in 3 movies:
Winter's Bone
X-Men First Class
Hunger Games
In all three films, she's had a very similar "underplaying" - almost repressed style of acting. Now, there's nothing wrong with that - and it certainly fit her role in Winter's Bone. But, as I already said, you can only get so far by underplaying.
To me, her facial expressions and general delivery is like she's partially sleepwalking. Sort of like a female version of Tobey Maquire - which is also a fine actor, but with a similarly limited range.
So, essentially, I think she needs to work on being able to deliver a more passionate range - and she needs to be able to let herself go. Maybe I overlooked something - or maybe I'm forgetting some scenes. But that's my honest opinion after seeing her in those three films.
It's like she's overwhelmed by the experience and she has to compensate by being overly and unnaturally subdued.
I don't know how else to put it.
Does that make any sense? |
No...You need to watch Winters Bone again (like I said she made that movie -cant be seen other way) and some of her real movies (her 5 min in x-men counts as nothing - its a superhero role whatever).
Try and watch The Burning Plain from the screen writer of Amores Perros, 21 Grams, and Babel. In that movie she plays the young version of Charlize Therons character (you know from Prometheus  ) and she does it like a beast.
Or just wait 3 weeks till Serena is out.
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| Doh! wrote: | | Casus wrote: | | Doh! wrote: |
Ok ill bite in the hope you give an actual proper reply.
I for the life of me, cannot fault her role in Winters Bone - she was on the screen 90% of the time, so for me SHE made it a great movie - Not John Hawkes like you claim thats on screen for like 5 minutes.
Quite fairly she was nomited for the Academy Award and Golden Globe Award. And Winters Bone won for best film at Sundance Film Festival.
In The Burning Plain she was only a supporting actor, but she stole the scenes she was in as a deeply troubled teen. Which is in stark contrast to her role in The Beaver.
She has been cast as Serena in the up-coming movie of the same name made by Susanne Bier - one of my favorite directors, and her main force is picking the right people for the roles.
In Serena the "limited" miss Lawrence will star in a Depression-era movie, playing the role of an woman that can´t get pregnant.
So for the movies ive seen Jennifer Lawrence in theres the one big lukewarm block buster and five very good smaller movies (Winters Bone was a 2 mill indie), where she acts her ass of, at a whole slew of different roles and emotions.
And that is why she is clearly not limited and I very much look forward to future films by her. |
Fair enough.
As for John Hawkes - he may have been on screen for a short time - but he certainly made a big impression on me.
As I already said - I think Lawrence did a fine job in Winter's Bone.
I've seen her in 3 movies:
Winter's Bone
X-Men First Class
Hunger Games
In all three films, she's had a very similar "underplaying" - almost repressed style of acting. Now, there's nothing wrong with that - and it certainly fit her role in Winter's Bone. But, as I already said, you can only get so far by underplaying.
To me, her facial expressions and general delivery is like she's partially sleepwalking. Sort of like a female version of Tobey Maquire - which is also a fine actor, but with a similarly limited range.
So, essentially, I think she needs to work on being able to deliver a more passionate range - and she needs to be able to let herself go. Maybe I overlooked something - or maybe I'm forgetting some scenes. But that's my honest opinion after seeing her in those three films.
It's like she's overwhelmed by the experience and she has to compensate by being overly and unnaturally subdued.
I don't know how else to put it.
Does that make any sense? |
No...You need to watch Winters Bone again (like I said she made that movie -cant be seen other way) and some of her real movies (her 5 min in x-men counts as nothing - its a superhero role whatever).
Try and watch The Burning Plain from the screen writer of Amores Perros, 21 Grams, and Babel. In that movie she plays the young version of Charlize Therons character (you know from Prometheus ) and she does it like a beast.
Or just wait 3 weeks till Serena is out. |
I'll watch The Burning Plain just for you.
If she doesn't impress, I'll be back to haunt you.
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had to google that. she did a real good job. like wtf... had no idea it was her. fuck wow.... 
