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halfluke

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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 20:59 Post subject: My knowledge needs a refresh..	Quick Quote Quote

I would like to understand why a FULL image WITH A CORRECT MDS doesn't pass the starforce check (using daemon tools + starforce nightmare), and a mini-image created from the same full one works flawlessly. I can report this behaviour for Pacman world 2 (sf 3.3.33.08 ) and Virtual skipper 3 (sf 3.3.35.4) Since the introduction of IsoProtect in latest SF, I have never been able to play a game from an image, because I have to mount the full one. Thx for any replies. Last edited by halfluke on Sat, 6th Aug 2005 21:48; edited 1 time in total

IpwnU
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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 21:33 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

im not able to give the right answer but i guess the sf3 protection checks the real file sizes of the mini skirt image

halfluke

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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 21:49 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

??

IpwnU
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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 21:57 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

ahh i mean sf3 check real file size of the mini iso you know the dvd iso includes data01.cab which is 1.8 gb for example so when it detects a 200kb image files data01.cab it doesnt run just a theory dont know the right answer

TheNerd

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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 22:01 Post subject:

IpwnU wrote:

ahh i mean
sf3 check real file size of the mini iso

you know the dvd iso includes
data01.cab which is 1.8 gb for example

so when it detects a 200kb image files data01.cab
it doesnt run

just a theory
dont know the right answer

well if thats the problem,why those ppls that trying to crack it,cant modify this line for e.g
if (filesize("data01.cab").Size == XXX) then....

or something like that???

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halfluke

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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 22:01 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Well my question was: why did it work with a mounted MINI-IMAGE and NOT with a mounted FULL IMAGE? You didn't get it. However, the answer should be: "Because till ISOprotect introduction there were the so called ATAPI check. This consist to block file system by looking for certain sector ( for CRC or not), and that feature have not been implemented on DT yet, so, when SF tries to load this from image/CD, if it does from image, then all the system hangs up. From CD is OK, no prob. In MI, there isnt sector to check, so SF pass without problems. There is only one game i know havent got ATAPI check and will load from full image from HD, Northland (Cultures III)."

IpwnU
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Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2005 22:19 Post subject:

IpwnU wrote:

just a theory
dont know the right answer

and halfluke
i think
sf3.5Xxx

fixed that miniimage allowing hole

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