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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:09    Post subject:
VonMises wrote:
Why is Bioware so obsessed with homosexuality? Why do they have to promote faggotry in almost every game? Is the LGBT lobby really that strong? I mean, they're more culturally progressive than the Frankfurt school. One can only imagine what we will have to endure in the next Mass Effect installment (bestiality? coprophilia? dendrophilia?)

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It's only an option. Why does it bother you so much?
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bestiality? coprophilia? dendrophilia?

It's almost the same as homosexuality, just a tiny step further, right? Rolling Eyes
You have some serious issues, dude.


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JahLux
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:13    Post subject:
U mad? Are you homosexual by any chance? Does homosexuality have to be everywhere these days just because it exists?

I think its getting pretty retarded...gay romance in games LMAO talk about policial correctness getting out of hand...
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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:19    Post subject:
JahLux wrote:
U mad? Are you homosexual by any chance? Does homosexuality have to be everywhere these days just because it exists?

I think its getting pretty retarded...gay romance in games LMAO talk about policial correctness getting out of hand...


I'm not gay, and you are a homophobe. Maybe it's time to grow up?

Why does it bother you that the possibility of same sex romances exist in a game? It's not like you have to pursue them. With your logic gay people should be bothered, that hetero romances exist in games.


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dannofdawn




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:21    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
VonMises wrote:
Why is Bioware so obsessed with homosexuality? Why do they have to promote faggotry in almost every game? Is the LGBT lobby really that strong? I mean, they're more culturally progressive than the Frankfurt school. One can only imagine what we will have to endure in the next Mass Effect installment (bestiality? coprophilia? dendrophilia?)

Mind Is Full Of Fuck

It's only an option. Why does it bother you so much?
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bestiality? coprophilia? dendrophilia?

It's almost the same as homosexuality, just a tiny step further, right? Rolling Eyes
You have some serious issues, dude.


There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. But that does not mean it HAS to be in the game. This has become a standard for BioWare to have same sex romance in their games. What I question about this is when they design the game, does having same sex romance add anything to the game. This seems like it is added for the sake of having it.

And this becomes a problem in the way the romance system is implemented. Especially the way they "flag" romance progression. DA2 was the biggest offender, when you just try to be friendly and helpful to your companions, the game thinks your character is gay. The same happens in ME3, however the good thing is ME3 has Paragon prompts, if you don't press it, you'll avoid it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:22    Post subject:
You're right about political correctness if, like now, it gets implemented afterwards due to complaints or whatever. However, it was in other games (ME, DA) from the start and I don't mind at all. I actually like it, even though I'm 100% straight.

Having the option in is awesome imo. More choice is always good. However I wouldn't like this getting in the way of other possible romances or stories "because it should be in", as you probably mean.
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JahLux
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:23    Post subject:
Nope not a homophobe, just fucking dispise the political correctness

Funny, either you love fags or you hate em eh? Very Happy

The fact that you can be gay in the game does not bother me but the fact that they had to fucking put it there to please some gay community or whatever is disgusting...


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:25    Post subject:
I too dont have anything against it being in games, but what dannofdawn pointed out is true, on Dragon Age 2 it was retarded, out of nowhere i would have Anders saying awkward stuff to my character, it felt really wrong lol
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:25    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:

It's only an option. Why does it bother you so much?


Because I hate cultural marxism, egalitrism and "human rights". I don't have anything against homosexuals (because this phenomenon is as old as humanity itself) but I have a lot against politically inclined gay lobbies who try to smuggle their sexuals obsessions to every possible medium.


JanKowalski82 wrote:

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bestiality? coprophilia? dendrophilia?

It's almost the same as homosexuality, just a tiny step further, right? Rolling Eyes


Today? No. In 10-15? Yes. There was already a registered pedophile party in the Netherlands (PNVD) and they have claimed that it is normal to have sex with someone who is 12 years old.

JanKowalski82 wrote:

You have some serious issues, dude.


Indeed. I have serious issues with being approached by fag npc's in almost every Bioware game (vide Mass Effect 3) Laughing


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JahLux
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:25    Post subject:
Yup and the same thing happend to me in ME3 talking to that black guy... suddenly gay dialogue and i was like wtf? Laughing

maybe im confusing the black guy with the latino guy Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:30    Post subject:
JahLux wrote:
Yup and the same thing happend to me in ME3 talking to that black guy... suddenly gay dialogue and i was like wtf? Laughing

maybe im confusing the black guy with the latino guy Razz


He acted like a spoiled male prostitute or one of those platform fags from "rainbow demonstrations" Laughing

Truly disgusting stuff Laughing
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dannofdawn




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:30    Post subject:
I get really annoyed when even the notion of homosexuality is shown when I'm interacting with my companions, because it is the limit of the system's fault. Once again, because of the way the system works, it is very easy for the game to consider your character at least interested in same sex romance if you are just nice to them. Lets not forget the fact that TOR's conversation system supports only 3 responds at most, and most of the time there is only 2 when you have to make decisions.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:30    Post subject:
You're homophobic, you just can't accept that. It's sad really. Wonder how you'd react if a gay person started hitting on you IRL. Cause that is good test if someone is homophobic.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:32    Post subject:
The problem with friendship turning into romance in games is a mechanics problem, not a sexuality problem. It works exactly the same for different sex relations.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:35    Post subject:
And you are obviously homosexual and butthurt because we have opinions but whatever lets leave it at that
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:35    Post subject:
I don't care if it is in the game or not. But for gay people it's a nice option to get male/male female/female relationship(s) in a game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:36    Post subject:
(Nexus) wrote:
I don't care if it is in the game or not. But for gay people it's a nice option to get male/male female/female relationship(s) in a game.


For straight people the female/female relationships are also a lot of fun Me Gusta

Now all we need is transsexuals. Surprisingly, robot/human relationships were in before transsexuals afaik?
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:41    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
Wonder how you'd react if a gay person started hitting on you IRL.

The point is that I usually don't know who is gay or not and this is a very healthy situation, because people are (usually) not interested in other peoples sexual prefferences. While most of the gay activists (political cathegory) want to tell the whole world that they have the sacred right to put their penis in other mans anus. And again - they want political rights therefore they are treated as a political entity. I dont have anything against "normal" homosexuals because I usually don't know about their homosexuality.

JanKowalski82 wrote:

Cause that is good test if someone is homophobic.


"Homophobe" Laughing Oh those little cultural marxist neologisms Laughing


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JahLux
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:41    Post subject:
im a tree fucker and there was a lack of trees, the few trees they added had no dialogues

im offended.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:49    Post subject:
JahLux wrote:
im a tree fucker and there was a lack of trees, the few trees they added had no dialogues

im offended.


Bioware is probably dendrophobic Laughing
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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 15:49    Post subject:
@VonMises

I'd love to discuss with you more, but your head seems so far up your arse it would be really pointless.

You can tell someone is really deluded if even the term homophobic bothers him.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 16:11    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
The problem with friendship turning into romance in games is a mechanics problem, not a sexuality problem. It works exactly the same for different sex relations.


Except different sex relations are still the majority of this society, and definitely the norm here. I don't think anything more need to be said about why that is.

You cannot forget that it is quite common for people to be negatively impacted (from disgust to awkwardness) when enocuntering someone who, not only is homosexual, but is hitting on you as well. Now add to the fact that the game system is limited and misinterpreted the players' stance on sexuality, it can be infuriating. That does not mean they are homophobic however. You seem to be the one who think having more options in a game is always good, which is never the case.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 16:18    Post subject:
Someone who is disgusted when a gay person starts hitting on him/her is a homophobe (if he's not disgusted when someone of the opposite sex does that). That's the last thing I'm going to say on this topic.


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 21:28    Post subject:
Is anyone else having pathetic download speed? I mean the launcher is downloading the game at 200kb/s.....
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 00:02    Post subject:
JahLux wrote:
Nope not a homophobe, just fucking dispise the political correctness

Funny, either you love fags or you hate em eh? Very Happy

The fact that you can be gay in the game does not bother me but the fact that they had to fucking put it there to please some gay community or whatever is disgusting...


So they shouldn't cater to some of their audience? Or do you think gay people don't play games?

Seriously, this is just another "I'm not a homophobic but...." argument.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 00:08    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
Someone who is disgusted when a gay person starts hitting on him/her is a homophobe (if he's not disgusted when someone of the opposite sex does that). That's the last thing I'm going to say on this topic.


Uhm, you're being a bit unfair now. Sexual instincts are strong and you don't need to be homophobic to feel uneasy/uncomfortable if someone from the same gender is hitting on you. It's all about how the paradigm shift in instinct affects you. It's perfectly natural for heterosexual people to feel unease if they see homosexual porn of the same gender, it's simply an instinct. I don't know how gay people feel about female sex but I guess it's at the very least not a turn-on.

The homophobic issue comes up when it goes further than that, when people look down upon, hate or get disgusted by the mere existence of bi/homosexuality etc..


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 00:15    Post subject:
I specifically said "disgusted". Feeling awkward is natural, happens sometimes even if it's a person of the sex you're interested in.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 09:26    Post subject:
every rime i read something about gay i remember this :

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20110314

and i don think gay stuff have a place in a game. (this kind of game)
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 10:53    Post subject:
to be honest, i don't care much about sexual stuff with npc's in general, straight or gay. I find that alone to be disturbing enough, having sexual relations with a NPC. ... i mean come on.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 10:58    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
to be honest, i don't care much about sexual stuff with npc's in general, straight or gay. I find that alone to be disturbing enough, having sexual relations with a NPC. ... i mean come on.



+1 Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 17:58    Post subject:
is this game F2P now ?

I've played the BETA, can I still play with my char from then?
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