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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 19:31    Post subject:
Oh gee.

Can't do shit so you accuse people of being pathetic and shovelling bs.
You and that hardcore drug peddling child should share a room together.

Well played, sir. Well played. Very mature. I'll wait till you snort some of that epic cocaine, then take a nap, come back after a day or so and spout more judgemental accusatory hypocritical moronic tin foil hat bull shit and call it facts because at that very minute moment, after a 24 hour high, hit a second of sobriety.

Keep your worthless conspiracy theories / anarchy bull shit to yourself. Or grow the fuck up and like i said provide me with legitimate facts that prove your worthless facts. I mean opinions. Cause you're digging a deeper worthless hole for yourself and the last thing i do honestly not want to see is you going away for a month or so to spiritually find yourself again and come back more mature. because that obviously did not work the first time. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 19:56    Post subject:
i did provide you with facts and valid questions, you chose to ignore them.

And then you kept on shoveling your BS.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 20:15    Post subject:
How are they valid questions?

Conflicting news reports gave you fodder for those questions.
Police reports gave you fodder for those questions.
Both of these things in the beginning were conflicting each other.

So therefore the questions hold no weight.
How could they hold any weight?
How could they be valid questions?

Like... you're questioning what the media tells you. Good.
You're questioning how the news reports don't add up. Good.

You can't question what happened when the information you received is misconstrued.
You don't have a base of the real facts to base anything on. You have media racing for ratings coming up with shit to get views. That's why the news overlap, that's why the news don't add up. MJ died 4 hours before on the news, than he actually did die.


If you want answers to these questions, go to the place and interview people. You won't get them here. You can't get them here. Or anywhere else.


look at the other major events. 911 news reports were conflicting each other. Some crimes are sensationalized on the news/media. Same with major news events. it's all to get ratings. If you really want facts you should look for it by investigating it yourself at centre of the event. You can't do it online because everyone else is basing their facts/truths on one news report and then they debunk those truths/facts with the information they got from another news report. and so on and so forth.


I'm not spouting bull shit. did you read the shit you posted? did you follow what happened? did you see all the news reports? did you see the follow up reports? did you read the police report? did you watch all the interviews? or did you watch what everyone else watched? snippets cut together to get the viewers emotional and get more ratings?


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Please. Do you think we discovered that the earth was round because we rioted against the church? or did we discover it when we travelled across the land and didn't fall of the edge? Cause... right now you're rioting against information that's manipulated to get ratings not to provide actual hard hitting news.


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 20:30    Post subject:
Sad

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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 00:17    Post subject:
Waldo,



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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 01:26    Post subject:
As to why i started this topic (about the video and such with dates).

They tested, and it indeed changes the tweet and vimeo allows to reupload a video and keep old timestamp.

Like i said, i got my info from Dutchsinse, he found it odd aswell. But he's fair aswell to admit that he was wrong on those things.



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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 07:29    Post subject:
Quote:
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 08:47    Post subject:
WTF did I just read Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 09:13    Post subject:
http://minutemennews.com/2013/01/white-house-plans-to-overwhelm-nra-with-rapid-victory/

This is scary reading, esp. the comments below. They're everything that's wrong with USA today.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 09:28    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
http://minutemennews.com/2013/01/white-house-plans-to-overwhelm-nra-with-rapid-victory/

This is scary reading, esp. the comments below. They're everything that's wrong with USA today.
What do you mean scary? Scratch Head

All I can think after reading that is:



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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2013 23:04    Post subject:
sausje wrote:

Once guns are out of the picture, crimerate WILL go up. Since then it comes down to who has illegal guns or who's stronger in a person to person fight.


Actually, to the gun supporters' dismay, it will not go up. We have very strict gun control in Romania, and the violent crime rate is really low compared to the US, and also one of the lowest in Europe.
Thing is, 99.99% homicides and armed robberies here don't involve firearms, since there aren't any. Only high ranking military, police officers, judges and some politicians are allowed to own lethal firearms. We have to get a permit from the police to even own swords, competition bows, compressed-air pistols.
In 2010, 68% of all homicides in the US were done with a firearm. It's quick, accurate, you don't have to get close, it's clean, it's hard to trace.
Around here, usually you have to go medieval if you want to kill someone - that is enough to discourage most of the wannabe criminals : it's messy, you might get overpowered, it takes a long time, it can get noisy and attract attention, you have to get close and personal, it's easy to trace (struggle marks, blood, hair, etc.). Most of the murderers, with a few exceptions, are caught within a week.

The guns are really out of control in US; there are people hoarding arsenals of 20+ military-grade semiauto assault rifles, snipers rifles, handguns, shotguns - there are plenty of gun boards where you can see what i'm talking about. No need for self defense can justify that. Go the Barrett site, all their offer is available to civilians, including the sound supressors.Same goes to Remington, Magpul, LaRue, Colt, etc.
You don't need a .50 cal sniper rifle with a US Optics 25x scope to defend yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 00:42    Post subject:
^^ not to mention criminals committing crimes kill people pretty easy since who knows who is carrying and there is no point in risking it. in countries where every other person doesn't carry a gun, you can probably assume you can just rob someone and get away with it. same as anyone who will end up with a lengthy prison sentence whether or not they kill someone ... why would you leave any witnesses?


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 05:18    Post subject:
Oh shit, I see now (I didn't bother reading posts after seeing the first videos Laughing ) - sasuje is just against banning guns in USA Laughing That's why he's been posting that crap as "evidence" and "facts". grinhurt
And sin is is willing to believe any conspiracy to revolve around the state (aka "boogeyman") so he followed suit and accused everyone of being closed-minded. Oh dear Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 05:42    Post subject:
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Oh shit, I see now (I didn't bother reading posts after seeing the first videos Laughing ) - sasuje is just against banning guns in USA Laughing That's why he's been posting that crap as "evidence" and "facts". grinhurt
And sin is is willing to believe any conspiracy to revolve around the state (aka "boogeyman") so he followed suit and accused everyone of being closed-minded. Oh dear Laughing


now why did you go and do that for? are you really that bored? YOU THINK THIS IS A MOTHER FUCKING GAME!

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you do if you live in the citadel.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 05:47    Post subject:
Do what? Analyze this bullshit for what it really is? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 05:48    Post subject:
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Do what? Analyze this bullshit for what it really is? Laughing


You just don't understand!


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 13:50    Post subject:
lulz, this reminds me so much of the indoctrination theory.

Conspiracy bullshit was bad enough when it was a collection of fat fucks carrying manila envelopes and folders full of blurred black and white pictures of some guy's cock that they believed was actually the face of the alien that shot JFK. Now you've got crowdsourced conspiracies with hundreds of thousands of people who are either paranoid/delusional/just plain asshat trolls scouring every frame of every news broadcast looking for shit to say like "EHRMAGEHRD, I SAW A WRAPPER FOR A CHEESE SANDWICH I KNOW IS PROVIDED BY A COMPANY THAT CATERS TO FILM CREWS. NEHR WEHRLD EHRDER!"

Actually, you know what? It's better this way. Much, much more hilarious.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jan 2013 15:35    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 22:03    Post subject:
http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/12/sandy-hook-shooting-active-shooter-drill-confirmed-by-law-enforcement-raises-suspicion-of-false-flag-operation/

Quite a nice read Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 22:27    Post subject:
Another conspiracy theory website that grasps at straws. No real info there, just snippets of information manipulated to create a bogus article and get clicks.


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 22:35    Post subject:
Just like you haven't answered my question i asked you, you always avoided it. Smile


And btw, just because it's not a valid newssite that can be controlled, doesn't mean their info is irelevant or that it's all fucking bullshit.
Who says what the media have been telling us isn't fucking bullshit, just because those where around longer and get bigger audience, doesn't make them more reliable then the others Smile
Atleast they are trying to dig up something, all the mainstream media has been doing is dismissing those facts that raise questions (just like you are doing to me), but havn't done actual research themselfs into those matters.


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 22:47    Post subject:
Which questions have you asked me? It got really heated here over stupidity that I might have missed them.


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 22:53    Post subject:
Ugh they're just digging for things and going in circles and trying to act open minded.


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 23:19    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
Which questions have you asked me? It got really heated here over stupidity that I might have missed them.


http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2088246#2088246

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Ugh they're just digging for things and going in circles and trying to act open minded.


So we are just to believe what the media tells us without raising a single question? Because that is what you are basically saying here Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 23:47    Post subject:
" Well then explain the video of the guy who's laughing and smiling first and then "gets into character" on camera and is almost crying about the loss of his child?! "

oh please. that is how it looks like to any conspiracy nut who's looking for "proof" of any of their many conspiracies. fact of the matter is people handle grief differently, people react to be on camera differently, not every person is normal / casual on camera.

The fellas kid was murdered. he can't handle himself. slew of emotions rushing through.

Obviously it's fake because every single conspiracy theorist out there has a degree in human psychology and can easily read / understand human emotion / human mind. you know.

I mean look at the loose change videos (as a comparison) they played back the video of the wtc collapsing in a collage of many other man made explosions that take down many condemned buildings. to show that the wtc was man made explosion. Even though educated people who actually know what they've been talking about have debunked the epic 'conspiracy' video.

You also have to take into consideration that every site that runs these conspiracy theories go wild whenever great events such as these occur. columbine shooting was a psy op. the tdkr shooting was a psy op. etc. etc. etc. these people believe that there has to be something impossibly wrong with a human being to go on a shooting spree, and since they can't accept the studies (that some people are mentally unstable because these studies are funded by the government therefore they're bogus) all these events are created by the government to spread fear and ban guns!

you follow? that is the mind of a typical conspiracy theory nut. \o/

also that blog site is trying really really hard.


"So we are just to believe what the media tells us without raising a single question? Because that is what you are basically saying here"

No. what i'm saying is that these sites are basing their facts on nothing. there really isn't a foundational base of facts to measure anything. you know how in math you have a value for y and you have to solve the rest of the equation? now imagine if in the same equation the value of y kept changing because every someone keeps telling you that the value of y is wrong they every other person keeps you a different value.

that is what is happening here. we don't know what y is. we only have the equation. and all these sites are basing all of their blogs on finding out what y is by collecting information which all have a different value for y. (no base for anything)

i'm down for anyone and everyone to write a new equation but only when y is always the same. but that won't happen here. case is closed. y is either 3, 6, or 9. and because of that you have these theory nuts going crazy. all of these videos, all of these blogs, all of these conversations. Rolling Eyes

by all means question the media. all you want. that's good. but if you do it too much you're going to go crazy. not all media is bad. not all media is government bought. not all media is evil. it's just sometimes media doesn't have all the information, but they still need the views and still need advert money so they often come up with information, or rush quickly to conclusions so that they're ahead of their competition. and when that happens the value of y keeps changing.


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jan 2013 23:50    Post subject:
I'm sorry, but if you actually believe someone can smile and laugh after 1 of his kids got shot (AT THE SAME DAY) and died and then goes on faking hyper ventilate just to look sad and wannabe cry on camera, then you are just as idiotic as those you are trying to make look idiotic. Laughing

I'm done with you, it seems that you think that the mainstream is right and everyone else is wrong. Black and white, that's how you see the world.


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oh please. that is how it looks like to any conspiracy nut who's looking for "proof" of any of their many conspiracies. fact of the matter is people handle grief differently, people react to be on camera differently, not every person is normal / casual on camera.

The fellas kid was murdered. he can't handle himself. slew of emotions rushing through.


So a random guy that writes on forums on the interwebz does have knowledge of these things? That this was real and he isn't faking it.
You are contradicting yourself, people can't claim it's acting because they have "no knowledge", but you are doing exactly the same, but then with another outcome.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2013 00:01    Post subject:
I'm sorry you're so anti-social you gather your information on human behaviour from video games/tv shows/movies. You have no idea how a human mind works. that's really sad.

you really don't understand anything of the world outside of your house.


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