Need Your Help: Ordering New Gaming PC
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 01:20    Post subject: Need Your Help: Ordering New Gaming PC
Right, so since my old gaming PC managed to somehow destroy 1.2k in graphics cards, and is 5 years old and won't run Company Heroes 2 at above 20 FPS, I think it's time to upgrade Laughing

I'm ordering from Cyberpowerpc.com because I am too damn lazy to order/assemble my own PC, and I really don't have the time.

This is what I've come up with so far:

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Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window (who gives a shit?)

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) (whatever the fuck Venom OC certified means. I assume it has something to do with overclocking, which I'll be avoiding. My hardware dies just fine without overclocking, thank you very much Laughing )

Fan: Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler (Designed for Over-Clocker King)(CLP0575) (So apparently overclockers now have a king? Ah the wonders of royalty).

HDD: 250 GB SAMSUNG 840 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 250MB/s Write [+8] (Single Drive [Free upgrade from 128GB SanDisk III SSD (Double SSD Capacity - Single drive only)]) (After using an SSD, I'm never going back. Kinda parallels my obsession with black cock xD )

HDD2: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+65] (Single Hard Drive) (500 GB should be enough for all my fucked up ixigario/Austrian scat porn, ja?)

KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard (What is this thing? Back in my day keyboards didn't glow! Is it supposed to warn off airplanes?)

MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand) (WTF am I going to do with 8 gigs of RAM? Even 4 is enough to run Visual Studio/Eclipse and play 2 games at the same time).

MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX] ASUS P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 3 PCI (Extreme OC Certified) (WHAT THE FUCK DOES ALL THAT EVEN MEAN!?!?!?)

MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge (Weight adjustable cartridge? It's a mouse not a fucking sniper rifle!)

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready (Better be fucking enough. I've had enough power supply headaches to last me 10 lifetimes).

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA) (Most expensive thing I could find that was under $1,000. Hopefully I'll finally be able to play Crysis?)

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All that comes out to $1434, which sounds pretty cheap. My budget is $2k-$2.5k.

So I don't know anything about hardware. I don't know anything about drivers (Nvidia VS Ati). What's good these days, what's bad? Is this a good enough rig that I can just play shit on for the next couple of years without worrying?

Thanks!
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 01:23    Post subject:
I would get 2 sticks of this ram..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147094

and get asrock mottherboard because i lost faith in asus motherbaord but i think that just comes down to personal preferences
and get CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i :d

ahh, I see now, you are ordering from cyberpower pc...

looks good to me


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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 01:24    Post subject:
Yeah I'm ordering it all prebuilt. If I have to assemble it it'll never get done.


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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 01:41    Post subject:
most important might be the resolution of your monitor ... 1080 or 1440?


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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 01:46    Post subject:
1080. Might get a new monitor as well


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 02:04    Post subject:
argh god damnit dude, I'm checking all these different places that do pre-builts and it's such a waste of money. You'd spend the same amount having the hardware shipped to me and having me build it for you


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W123




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 06:56    Post subject:
Why are you getting an intel K processor if you're not going to be overclocking.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 08:33    Post subject:
And what is a "standard 800W power supply"? I don't trust that Besides, you don't need a 800W PSU at all.

And why pay for a 500GB drive, when a 1-2TB drive has so much more gb per $. Even here in Sweden the price difference is incredibly tiny, so there's no real point in getting a 500Gb, even it'll be enough.


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mach1ne




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 10:15    Post subject:
power supply is a very important part. i am going to guess that your headaches on your last system are due to choosing a 'standard psu', or thinking/hoping that throwing a ton of wattage at it would suffice. you want to find out what your system needs, and pick a unit from a reputable manufacturer that will deliver that much power as stable as possible. having a lot more wattage than you need can actually mean less efficiency, more heat/waste etc.

also, hdd are cheap as hell. grab a 2 or 3 tb storage drive. if you think 500 gigs is enough now, youll be happy near the end of this systems lifecycle when you dont even have 500 free on your multi tb drive and you think back to right now when you decided to go bigger.

another consideration for the end of lifecycle time is ram. ram requirements are always going up, and old ram tends to get more and more expensive, making late life upgrading less cost effective (newegg right now 4 gigs of fast ddr 2 is 66 bucks and 8 gigs of fast ddr3 is anywhere from 47 to 80). even if you dont need it all its better to buy cheap and have access to immediately imo. hell set up a 4 gig ram drive for your temp and cache and take some of the writes off your ssd (increasing its life span and the speed of your temp/cache operations).

everything else looks fine to me, though you can push a bigger monitor with that gpu, that is a whole other forum topic Razz
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inz




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 10:29    Post subject:
Yeah steer clear of those generic piece of shit PSUs, and 800W is way too much for a setup like that, anyway (a single 680 with a regular setup draws a max. of ~400W iirc). Dunno about their current line-up, but Corsair, XFX and Enermax have traditionally been great PSU manufacturers.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 10:57    Post subject:
Fuck that PSU; I assume you're using the ASUS 3770K build as a base?

Get the Corsair AX750. Their selection of PSUs is fucking terrible. If the TX750V2 is the real one then that would do as well (as it would be a Seasonic build like the AX750), but the AX is on a newer, more efficient platform. It'll be quieter. As for the GPU, doesn't really matter between that or the 7970. They trade blows and drivers are not an issue. Looking at your budget though, I don't think you really care much about saving that $159 (but like I said, they trade blows, all you lose is CartoonX) Laughing

Although I must admit I haven't kept track of how much the latest AMD drivers really do; supposedly they are very, very good. In before Nviditard: I just had to roll back from 310.70 due to BSODs and it didn't do shit for my performance in FC3, so fuck you

Also: get the free Razer KB/M bundle and sell that shit, get the keyboard/mouse you really want separately. What the fuck is Azzo Laughing

@ Inz: Corsair and XFX aren't manufacturers and never have been; only certain units in their ranges are really good, rest is average at best. Enermax is nowhere near as good as they used to be. You need to shell out serious cash to get anything worthwhile from them.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 13:33    Post subject:
tainted4ever wrote:
Yeah I'm ordering it all prebuilt. If I have to assemble it it'll never get done.


just curious, where are you ordering from?


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 13:44    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
Yeah I'm ordering it all prebuilt. If I have to assemble it it'll never get done.


just curious, where are you ordering from?


www.cyberpowerpc.com
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 19:58    Post subject:
Thanks for the feedback guys, especially about the power supply Smile I'll probably upgrade the HD to 1 TB, it's not that big of a deal. I'll order tomorrow unless someone has something to add!


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 20:35    Post subject:
just order what I have in the sig.

and some fractal case.


money well spent !


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 20:45    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
just order what I have in the sig.

Call of Duty ? Aww Yeah
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 20:48    Post subject:
or sin's ass Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Dec 2012 20:50    Post subject:
I thought you meant just get the 360 elyte edytion...


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inz




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Dec 2012 03:42    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:

@ Inz: Corsair and XFX aren't manufacturers and never have been; only certain units in their ranges are really good, rest is average at best. Enermax is nowhere near as good as they used to be. You need to shell out serious cash to get anything worthwhile from them.


Right, 'brands' would've been the better word. Of course it's best to steer clear of the low-end models no matter what the brand - and like I said, it's been a while. It's a shame about Enermax if true, but I never bother to follow the latest developments with HW unless I need to buy the stuff. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Dec 2012 03:53    Post subject:
I always tend to go straight to the source....Seasonic. Most brands use their OEMS anyways. I personally always use PC Power & Cooling because they used the best OEM's around and 5 year warranty. I've got one back from 2004 that's still running perfectly to this day. Got one powering my system right now that I got used from an OCN member 4 years ago and he had it for whatever time that he did.

Another brand that has seriously stepped up, and I couldn't believe it myself, is Rosewill. The cheapo brand no one used started putting out some good PSU's.

Antec, Corsair, PC Power, Seasonic and Rosewill are the only ones I use. Corsairs always run great and last quite a while at a good price so when I build for other people I usually put a Corsair in their system.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Dec 2012 09:17    Post subject:
I have used Corsair PSU´s since VX got released, their warranty is just awesome. Not to mention they are very quality ones (AX series especially). I replaced my HX 850 to AX 760i because my brother wanted the HX 850 (he had TX model which was pain in the ass for cable management). Anyway, never cheap out on the PSU!

Dont buy GTX 680 now, since new nvidia 7xx/AMD 8xxx series is getting pretty near (just my opinion tho).
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Dec 2012 09:40    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Dont buy GTX 680 now, since new nvidia 7xx/AMD 8xxx series is getting pretty near (just my opinion tho).

They're not. Don't expect to see either within 3 months Smile
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 06:58    Post subject:
It just arrived. Thanks everyone for your help. Much love <3 Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 07:05    Post subject: Re: Need Your Help: Ordering New Gaming PC
tainted4ever wrote:

MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand) (WTF am I going to do with 8 gigs of RAM? Even 4 is enough to run Visual Studio/Eclipse and play 2 games at the same time)


I went for this one:
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1866MHz 32GB CL10
Kit w/4x 8B, CL10-1110-30, 1.5V, Vengeance Heatspreader, Intel P67, Z68 and X79


Sure it's alot of memory - but it was quite cheap and I'd rather have too much than to little Smile


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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 09:37    Post subject:
why is everyone hating on asus motherboards and recommending asrock, did i miss something?
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 10:01    Post subject:
Usual nonsense mate. HURR DURR BRAND X IS BETTER, even though most of them use the same capacitors and everything for 90% of their range Rolling Eyes

Asrock tends to be priced quite well compared to the competition though, so that's why they're popular.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 10:06    Post subject:
I'm perfectly happy with my ASUS Sabertooth P67.B3 board with military grade components (all solid caps and high grade material all over).


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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 10:08    Post subject:
few years ago everyone loved asus motherboards, so i thought maybe i missed some recent drama regarding asus, maybe their mobos came with always online drm and gps tracker. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 10:31    Post subject:
Military Grade Laughing



Anyways; On sites I trust like Anandtech Asus typically scores the best. I've never heard outstanding things about ASRock. They are scored average at best in the Anandtech roundups.
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 10:34    Post subject:
i noticed that asrock gets average scores across all review sites, so i wonder why it became so popular especially among enthusiasts going for quality.
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