[Next Gen] The Next Generation Discussion Thread!
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 18:19    Post subject:
Depends on the architecture and hardware.

He meant that we won't be limited in graphics due to consoles when they come out (but eventually we will again)

Plus many xbox1 games didn't fail as port. here the list again: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2095331#2095331


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 03:27    Post subject:
Maybe its move2 or a tablet controller for the ps3 Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 06:54    Post subject:
Man... I am sure new consoles wont be as simply exciting as 360 when it came out...
Now it will be like ... What? More fucking 3d, 8d and online drm + no rental?
That wont be an independant gaming machine like consoles uded to be


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 11:07    Post subject:
azzman wrote:
Maybe its move2 or a tablet controller for the ps3 Laughing


I really hope that's not true.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 12:11    Post subject:
Or it could be the PS3 gaming streaming service Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 15:38    Post subject:
I bet at this point it must be some feature or public showing of the PS4.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 18:37    Post subject:
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony would like to be first this gen.

They had major problems becaues of being released year after 360


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 02:34    Post subject:
Sony has stated in the past they want to beat microsoft to market this round. Personally I dont like the sound of the driving factor behind these new consoles. Less horse power, more social online shit and control gimmicks. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 02:37    Post subject:
me too. And more 3d/vr so games cant be played traditional way


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 02:42    Post subject:
xbox or ps, who cares, whichever gets cracked first will get my money.

I wouldn't mind if PS4 get cracked first and be backwards compatibile with all of the ps3 games, play all those jrpgs So Much Win So Much Win So Much Win


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 07:08    Post subject:
Time-To-Market
vs
Design-To-Cost
vs
Best-In-Market

--> Sony releases first but lacks quality and has a high price Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 08:24    Post subject:
No matter whether sony comes first or last if they do provide cheap game developers tools its going to be ps3 again 360 gained a lot of popularity due to cheap development tools and talent availability at low cost which wasnt the case for ps3
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 09:32    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
xbox or ps, who cares, whichever gets cracked first will get my money.

I wouldn't mind if PS4 get cracked first and be backwards compatibile with all of the ps3 games, play all those jrpgs So Much Win So Much Win So Much Win


I bet all my money on PS4 will not be PS3 compitable.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 10:54    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Przepraszam wrote:
xbox or ps, who cares, whichever gets cracked first will get my money.

I wouldn't mind if PS4 get cracked first and be backwards compatibile with all of the ps3 games, play all those jrpgs So Much Win So Much Win So Much Win


I bet all my money on PS4 will not be PS3 compitable.

backward compatable games i wont be to worried about as will have my PS3 still until these games are all played & although i know there on about a new controller for the PS4 but I hope to god all my PS3 usb peripherals are still compatable,I will not go through the cost of buying another wheel/Arcade stick etc


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 11:15    Post subject:
cant see either being cracked for a LONG time after release this time round.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 11:29    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:
cant see either being cracked for a LONG time after release this time round.


I think the opposite,2 groups have now made an odde optical blu ray drive emulator for ps3. the blu ray drive protection is not gonna be much different on these new consoles. so it will be "hacked" sooner.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 11:30    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:
cant see either being cracked for a LONG time after release this time round.


I think the opposite,2 groups have now made an odde optical blu ray drive emulator for ps3. the blu ray drive protection is not gonna be much different on these new consoles. so it will be "hacked" sooner then ps3 was.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 12:05    Post subject:
BLaM! wrote:
PS4 can share videos, screens - Report

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps4-can-share-videos-screens-report-6403282

no fucking way. INTERNAL FRAPS ?!
oh my god Frap Frap Guy Frap Frap Guy Frap Frap Guy

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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 12:08    Post subject:
And just when we recruited KC to the PC masterrace, he's already starting falling back to his old addiction, consoles! Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 12:13    Post subject:
Very Happy Nah. not yet. As for now I am enjoying 60fps + 4x adaptive antialiasing and vsync. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 12:15    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
BLaM! wrote:
PS4 can share videos, screens - Report

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps4-can-share-videos-screens-report-6403282

no fucking way. INTERNAL FRAPS ?!
oh my god Frap Frap Guy Frap Frap Guy Frap Frap Guy

Laughing

nice, it will be easier to analyze when game is sub HD Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 12:26    Post subject:
nah. It will pause and render a screenshot like gran tourismo. Then we will see many fanboys explaining that gt5 is the best looking game ever based on render screenshot from photography mode Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 15:06    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
gibman70 wrote:
cant see either being cracked for a LONG time after release this time round.


I think the opposite,2 groups have now made an odde optical blu ray drive emulator for ps3. the blu ray drive protection is not gonna be much different on these new consoles. so it will be "hacked" sooner then ps3 was.

Hope you're right, ATM the ps4 looks the better of the 2 machines.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 16:28    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:
Hope you're right, ATM the ps4 looks the better of the 2 machines.

we know nothing concrete about either how can you even make such claims
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 16:38    Post subject:
Intel_NVIDIA wrote:
gibman70 wrote:
Hope you're right, ATM the ps4 looks the better of the 2 machines.

we know nothing concrete about either how can you even make such claims

i'll get whichever is proven to be more technically powerful, best features etc whether thats the ps4 or new xbox.

based on what several developers who have seen devkits of both, they are saying ps4 is slightly more powerful - nothing major. you're right, we won't know for sure yet but as i said, ATM ps4 is looking better.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 16:52    Post subject:
i'll probably get both in the long run, but if i were to get only one, it would be the one with best games, not one that is "slightly" faster. hardware without games is nothing, ok that's not true any more, now they have failbook, youtube and other social garbage on consoles.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 17:24    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
gibman70 wrote:
cant see either being cracked for a LONG time after release this time round.


I think the opposite,2 groups have now made an odde optical blu ray drive emulator for ps3. the blu ray drive protection is not gonna be much different on these new consoles. so it will be "hacked" sooner.


That's not necessarily meaningful at all, for example, they could have protection where the game disc's executable is encrypted and will only run off the HDD which could also be encrypted and the only way to get the executable to the HDD is to enter in your serial number and register online through ps4/xboxlive and then u can play offline etc. Which means hacking the blu ray is useless and you need to delve deeper and hack the other means of protection. My guess is their protection will be good but crackable obviously, the main thing is if they have registration codes for each game that tie to ur account then they will curb 99.999999999% of illegal online players and only single player will work and potentially cracked server players (doubtful).
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