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Frant
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If I remember correctly Stige (or whoever it was that bashed close-loop watercooling) is an open-loop/complete system water cooler aficionado.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 08:17 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | If I remember correctly Stige (or whoever it was that bashed close-loop watercooling) is an open-loop/complete system water cooler aficionado. |
I would go open loop if the closed loop systems were not a third of the price of a decent open loop system, and you generally don't have to worry about messing something up and ruining your system with closed loop. I use an H100 for my cpu right now and I am satisfied.
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 09:40 Post subject: |
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Are there closed loops for dual sinks?
Nvm, The H100i is still a wish from my side. But with current economical situation it's not happening anytime soon.
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murgo
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 11:22 Post subject: |
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i guess it'll take more than half a year until AMD releases something new, right?
my 5870 is really showing signs of age.. so what do you guys recommend? should i get a 7970 soon or wait?
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 14:53 Post subject: |
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| murgo wrote: | i guess it'll take more than half a year until AMD releases something new, right?
my 5870 is really showing signs of age.. so what do you guys recommend? should i get a 7970 soon or wait? |
Well, Maxwell (next-gen nVidia) has been delayed to 2014 (latest word at any rate) and AMD isn't doing releasing anything major until somewhere around that time as well.
Your choice. 7950 is a bargain, 7970 has a bit more oomph and overclockability (chip-of-the-luck though).
On the other hand there may be price drops coming soon.. Spring drops.
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 15:03 Post subject: |
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Tbh, i would wait.
That's what i'm doing and hopefully saved enough to buy 2x the high end at once 
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 15:50 Post subject: |
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The "supposed" TITAN has been released in Spain via Online Stores for the trolling prohibitve? price of 979€ (that's price with IVA/whatsoever it's called over there)
http://tienda.lifeinformatica.com/gigabyte-tarjeta-grafica-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan.htm
They DONT mention with "version" is (you know,760,770,etc...)
Well,hopefully they pricedrop the 660Ti or the 670GTXs to a reasonable 200-300€ final price tag..i'd get a 670GTX if i can get an specific 6pin (PSU) to 8pin (GPU) cable from Thermaltake..
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 15:57 Post subject: |
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dsergei
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 16:01 Post subject: |
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Yeah, apparently there aren't going to be any mid/low end versions. Just the Titan.
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 16:09 Post subject: |
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It's a card for image and prestige for NV. They're releasing it just for the sake of having the most powerful single-GPU'ed card. Plus, it won't be associated with any generation of GPU's. The GTX780 will be a different card and will probably come out later this year.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 16:20 Post subject: |
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Performance and overclocking reviews for Titan are out. Underwhelming to say the least.
Voltages are the same as GK104, but the clock is 17% lower. Similarly, it doesn't overclock anywhere near as well as a good GK104 sample, most seem to get stuck around +110-+120. In fact, overclocking is relatively limited as you can't overvolt the regular way. It seems they've got the chip running near its limits straight out of the box.
Compute wise it's the obvious improvement over GK104, but it still loses out to the 7970 in some cases or barely matching/beating it.
Gaming wise, same story. Massively underwhelming results in Dirt: Showdown for example where it has less of a lead over Tahiti than Tahiti does over GK104 - and with higher resolutions (Surround/Eyefinity) the difference is negligible, definitely not worth the cost of THREE 7970's. In fact, that trend comes back in more games, where the lead over the 7970 GE is the same as that one's lead over the 680. What worries me more is that minimum FPS is often extremely close to the 7970 GE. And overall it still loses out to a 7970 CFX or 680 SLI solution; that comes with microstuttering of course, but also only costs 60-80% of what a Titan costs.
The only part I'm impressed with is the thermals, noise and power consumption. For such a big chip, that's really not that bad. Power consumption is, but thermals + noise are good for a 551mm^2 chip.
Definitely a PEEN product. That price just makes it more ridiculous than a MARS, 690 and such.
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murgo
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 16:54 Post subject: |
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Actually, three eliminates microstutter on both Nvidia and AMD. It's because if one card falls behind, rather than the second one having to wait, the third one will most likely pick up the slack. That way it can still display a frame within a reasonable timespan and the slow frame just gets dropped 
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 17:09 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | Ooh.. didn't know that. I guess I'll be off to pick up a pair of 7970s now 
I am actually more intimidated by the fact that I will need a giant case, motherboard with 3 PCI-E x16 slots, and a monster of a power supply. Also it just kinda freaks me out having so much hardware stuck in one case... there will come a time when I will need to get rid of those cards, and it's hard enough to say goodbye to one  |
Case is my drama  ,but people said that a 660 or 670 would fit in my case...i just can't believe it because of GIGABYTE's 670GTX's triplefan
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 17:21 Post subject: |
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Which doesn't make it any longer DV2. If old cards fit, so will new ones, they're still the same damn length (9.5 to 10.5 inches typically)
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 17:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 17:25 Post subject: |
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mine's like...20mm shorter? than the 670GTX (Mine's the one in my Sig)
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 19:45 Post subject: |
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Fuck me... I would take all the money from that and build 3 more than decent PC's and give away the other two. 
And that RoG stuff always seemed like nothing but overpriced shit. 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 20:45 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | DV2 wrote: | 600 Series price drops in March  |
Guess what'll follow?  |
Shit ATI drivers?  |
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