In teh end the people that bought it bought it, those that didn't didn't, and those that are angry we are supporting a game they don't like will fail to understand that them upset that I spent my money in a way they don't like...is of no care to me.
So carry on, you arguing how horrible the game is, will not make our money you disapprove of being spent, return to where you wish to see it..in our pockets.
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I think I've discovered the problem here. You're convinced the world revolves around you
It does when did I deny that fact? are we now arguing that fact too? lot to juggle here now...
And AGAIN i wasn't defending, denying or stating anything about the argument at hand involving the game or who you was directing it at .. I'm fully aware of WHO you are arguing with, you need to take a big cup o' "learn to grasp simple questions and how they are directed" I ASKED why you are so angry, not 'why are you so angry at me'...The world revolving around me has no bearing on asking a question does it?
If you don't want to answer why you foam at the mouth over such a simple thing as a game .. that's fine..just say so And I will stop asking.
There was nothing angry about what I wrote, though you seem pretty bent out of shape, perhaps the problem is a little projection on your part, maybe when finally faced with the reality of the choice you made, you can't help but act defensive and aggressive all in one.
Speaking of grasping simple questions and how they're directed, could you tell me again where it was that I complained about your usage of the term "hater"? When we get to that one, maybe I'll get to yours. That wouldn't be the hypocrite coming out in you again would it?
There was nothing angry about what I wrote, though you seem pretty bent out of shape, perhaps the problem is a little projection on your part
I just think your an moronic, coke headed, no brain cell having sheeple that sucks the teets of the anti-SC pushers. but that's not our of anger mind you..its just me stating facts. Why do you assume me saying that means its in anger?
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perhaps the problem is a little projection on your part, maybe when finally faced with the reality of the choice you made, you can't help but act defensive and aggressive all in one.
And will you PLEEEASE stop trying to be a psychoanalyst of things? you are horrible at it. You give people that do it right a bad name. You use it as as tool to jump to the conclusion you need, to make your next sentence true...you are using a tool the wrong way. And just end up looking like a ignorant, forcing the point, grasping at straws fool.
ANd come on..we are past arguing the game now..its about me and you..stop tossing the purchase of the game into it as if its a characteristic defining trait you can use.
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There was nothing angry about what I wrote, though you seem pretty bent out of shape, perhaps the problem is a little projection on your part
I just think your an moronic, coke headed, no brain cell having sheeple that sucks the teets of the anti-SC pushers. but that's not our of anger mind you..its just me stating facts. Why do you assume me saying that means its in anger?
Oh look.. you dogded the question again... what a shock. Hypocrite through and through.
The reality of the debate is finally starting to coalesce.
I would say that I've hit the nail rather close to the head on this one. Good luck spinning your wheels, oh sorry, that's just the simcity traffic pattern.
OK I missed interpreted who you was directing hater at..I was wrong I was under the impression you meant in general.
Now answer mine...as you promised
Why do you show such detest, anger, and directed hatred and belittling to anyone that enjoys the game? Why do you turn a non emotional subject such as game playablity, into a personally damaging subject matter that requires not only a rebuttle but personal attacks, that usually involve question their intelligence on the person giving them?
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Can we change names in the NFO Hump 2 region of our cities to be more like our NFO forum names? Get helped by people whom i have no ideawho they are
Good idea.
I will rename my "Threesteps" city into "SilentLurker Hill" or something.
BTW is there a way to have a notification when a message is posted on the city wall (ingame chat) ?
Because when I think about checking it I see tons of msg I missed.
Also, sorry to not communicate so much ingame.
I am so hooked by my city development I almost forget I am playing with you guys
Every time I check the region map I am like "Wow there is other people here !"
Mutliplayer is a bit off, I mean I expected more interactions between players.
There is not much difference, when you are in your city, between solo and multiplay.
Anyway your fire trucks/ambulance are welcome in certain occasion.
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OK I missed interpreted who you was direction hater at..I was wrong I was under the impression you mean in general.
Now answer mine...as you promised
You were well beyond misinterpreted (). I might have given you misinterpreted the first time, but then when I directly put it to you, again and you just repeated..no..that's wilful ignorance and just outright stupidity.
I'm not angry about anything. I can convey disappointment with a product and clueless cheerleaders without anger. It's pretty hard to interpret emotion through a keyboard and screen. Direct writing might come across as anger, but there is no anger.
Calling a spade a spade is not anger. If someone is being a clueless idiotic fanboy calling them out as such really isn't anger. They might take it as anger, because the truth is really hard to handle, and it is easier to deflect it if they assume the person is angry, but that still doesn't make it anger.
Though, hypocrisy, well you don't really need to interpret that. Stupidity? Also doesn't really need to be interpreted. The failings of your position and argument don't rely on subjective things. Objectively, this game is a piece of crap, and about the only thing you've managed to come up with is a projection of your own feelings of inadequacy, and disappointment in an attempt to interpret and spin reality to fit your narrative.
I think both sides of this argument is pointless but hey.
I bought the game, I'm enjoying it, I couldn't care any less for always-online, just like I didn't care about it with Diablo III. For me, there are other things that annoy me with this game, just like my experience with Diablo III was.
I can understand it being bad for those who want to play it on the train or whatever, but I don't play games outside of my home so not an issue for me. The only thing that I'm miffed about a little is the lack of mods due to always online (I doubt modding tools will actually come, despite what's been said) but it's not like I actually expect modding tools from game companies nowadays anyway.
+1.
Now shut up and kiss!
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Actually I don't care why you are actually crossmr..Dont answer it. we are dancing for no reason...its simple, Just stop doing it.
Argue the points of the game how horrible you think it is..not the flaws you want to assign to the person you are arguing with, and how horrible you think they are.
Stick to the discussion of the game..not your opinion of the people discussing the game...deal?
Judge the game all you wish, just don't judge the people...can we agree to start sticking to that?
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Pretty cool, I like how on the largest density, he put dirt road and parks on those dirt roads to raise value of his largest density zone, that way he can have both on each side and park in the middle. I would have never though of that
You're right in that some functionality has been disabled
Some..as in basically everything that makes it an online game. You can't find friends, leaderboards don't work, achievements are disabled, cheetah speed is turned off, some servers have intermittent or on-going issues where connectivity between the cities is failing so that services/commuters/etc aren't being sent properly or at all between them..
that's a little more than "some"
Okay then.. "Some" is subjective, take it as you will. Again, functionality was disabled to stabilize the server, while they re-add functionality. This is the logical move to make.. They've identified the server issues, resolved them by temporarily disabling features, stabilized the servers with upgrades and client crashes with patches, and they will continue to patch and re-add functionality. That's the right move. They can't just re-enable all functionality and expect a seamless transition to stability. There's really nothing more that needs to be said.
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You're telling me that the online DRM serves no purpose in preventing piracy? Seriously?
Absolutely..piracy, while terrific PR is not a problem for the studios. If it was, they wouldn't be here. EA would have died a long time ago. They know, as well as us, that 1 download != 1 lost sale. That's just PR they use to get the government to give them privileges. The real enemy has always been second hand game sales and things like that.
I'm not saying that it's a 1:1 ratio, what I'm saying is that online drm does indeed help reduce/stop piracy. There can be no doubt about that. As I said before, had there been no online DRM, this game would have been scene/pub released already (aka Tomb Raider 0day). I made no assertions stating that piracy leads to 100% sales gain, it doesn't, but it does garner additional sales from those who do not want to wait days/weeks/months for a scene/pub release (emulator/server/whatever).
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In this case EA, once the release failure finally fades, is going to start pumping the DLC non-stop. You can bet they already would have started if the launch didn't blow up in their face. By forcing the game online it means they can guarantee that they always have a direct avenue of sale to the user. That's the entire point of always online. They want to have full control over the end product.
Yeah, of course they'll be offering DLCs. It doesn't mean those DLCs are required to run the game. If you want cosmetic changes like the additional city looks that's available in the limited edition version, it's an option if you CHOOSE to get it. As far as guaranteeing a direct avenue for sales, of course they want to do it. Why not offer micro transactions and DLCs to add to their revenue stream? It's a freakin corporation after all -- they're looking to please their shareholders. It's a business for godsake. This DOESN'T mean that you have to buy those DLCs or other fru fru offerings. I've had battlelfield 3 since launch on origin (only EA origin game I own) and I've never purchased any of their DLC(expansion) content. It hasn't affected my gameplay AT ALL. I still play with my buds, and gameplay is NOT affected. Having a direct avenue to the user does NOT guarantee a sale. A lot of users will buy cosmetic items to customize their gameplay. It's their money, they can do as they wish. Nothing is being forced down your throat. You have the OPTION to opt out.
In the future if they offer required DLCs, then there will be a shit storm, until then this is just another assumption.
crossmr wrote:
They want to tell you when and where you can use it and when they release Simcity 2014, they're going to be able to stop you from playing this and there isn't a thing you can do about it.
Question 5: When SimCity servers are taken down in a few years, will an offline mode patch be distributed? Perhaps before then?
Answer: We have no intention of offlining SimCity any time soon but we'll look into that as part of our earning back your trust efforts.
Source: http://community.simtropolis.com/topic/54657-lucy-bradshaw-answering-questions-via-twitter/
Do I believe her? I doubt the servers will be up in 5+ years, but I have no reason to call her a liar as she has no track record at leading a company before. Maybe they'll release an offline mode when the expense of running the server exceeds their net profit or may be you're right and they will be offering a new version. Time will tell.
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You can still trade/sell the account (I did this with WoW years ago) and people are selling origin and steam accounts everywhere.
Only if you want to sell all your games. Selling those accounts may end up getting your account banned if they catch wind of it. Steam has done it before.
People who trade/sell accounts and get caught are often discussing the account names and specifics or are reported. Yep, it's a risk. A lot of people don't get caught, a lot do. It's not 100% fool proof.
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In terms of no processing is done on the Maxis servers? Just out of curiosity, how would you go about determining how much resources a neighboring city would require (buses, police, money, energy, etc..) ? Do you think you're client would be able to tell you what your buddy/organized group/public group is doing or needing.. ANY regional data is sent to your client notifying you of their needs. If you're talking about creating a private region just for yourself, then that could be all calculated client side IF their framework supports it, which I don't think anyone has the answer to yet.. Maybe scene groups or other developers have figured it out that is a possibility and are working on an emulator, who the fuck knows?
People with a clue do. Any client could easily pass the information to another client. I have X jobs available or X extra workers in this class. The info isn't really that complex. EA has avoided doing that to artificially create the need for the server. Don't confuse their design choices made to take total control of your game with things that actually needed to be done.
I actually never said it "needed to be done". Nothing NEEDS to be done a certain way, there are always alternatives. What I'm saying is that based on their existing framework, private regions may support no data transactions from a centralized server (doubtful). Making an emulator or a local server CAN be done to pass data to the client. Anything CAN be done, it's just a matter of having the time to look into it. The possibility that a scene group releases this type of solution is fathomable, given that they're dedicated to doing it. It's been done with Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft, albeit it's taken them quite a while since release date of the respective game, but those were done by individuals and group efforts.
Personally, I don't see an emulator coming anytime soon, given how long it's taken Diablo 3 and WoW, but I could be wrong.
I remember WoWs release when EVERYTHING was horrible. You would fall through the landscape to your death, lag was immense, servers rebooted/crashed often, log in servers were down quite a bit, rollbacks, queues, rubber banding, class balance issues (this actually never stops for an mmorpg) etc... Months later, they were solid. After all that shit, they rebounded quite nicely. Bug fixes, patches, rollbacks, were pretty common occurrences. Bringing the game online was definitely a challenge for them and had they planned better with, as I said, open betas/stress tests, they would have been able to identify a little bit/some/most of these issues before hand.
Personally, I don't see an emulator coming anytime soon, given how long it's taken Diablo 3 and WoW, but I could be wrong.
I'd cut my penis off if there will be no working crack/emulator in a week from now on, people will do everything to show EA middle finger after this abyssmal fail with release.
Personally, I don't see an emulator coming anytime soon, given how long it's taken Diablo 3 and WoW, but I could be wrong.
I'd cut my penis off if there will be no working crack/emulator in a week from now on, people will do everything to show EA middle finger after this abyssmal fail with release.
lol you may be right. There's plenty of EA hate to fund an army
Personally, I don't see an emulator coming anytime soon, given how long it's taken Diablo 3 and WoW, but I could be wrong.
I'd cut my penis off if there will be no working crack/emulator in a week from now on, people will do everything to show EA middle finger after this abyssmal fail with release.
your willing to risk your penis on such a short timeframe?
Id go as far as saying "Id cut it off if no one ever makes one" Not "Ill cut it off if by next Tuesday they haven't"
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I remember WoWs release when EVERYTHING was horrible. You would fall through the landscape to your death, lag was immense, servers rebooted/crashed often, log in servers were down quite a bit, rollbacks, queues, rubber banding, class balance issues (this actually never stops for an mmorpg) etc... Months later, they were solid. After all that shit, they rebounded quite nicely. Bug fixes, patches, rollbacks, were pretty common occurrences. Bringing the game online was definitely a challenge for them and had they planned better with, as I said, open betas/stress tests, they would have been able to identify a little bit/some/most of these issues before hand.
But Blizzard supports their games, but EA on other hand..
Personally, I don't see an emulator coming anytime soon, given how long it's taken Diablo 3 and WoW, but I could be wrong.
I'd cut my penis off if there will be no working crack/emulator in a week from now on, people will do everything to show EA middle finger after this abyssmal fail with release.
pics of a severed penis next week plz, so i can add it to my bme collection.
otherwise i ll be playing a cracked sim city, win-win situation there
What a stupid metaphor. And what has George Bush got to do with this shit? It's very simple, if you continue to buy games with stupid DRM's they will keep making them.
Bush once said: "You are either with us or against us". Thats what you are saying. Completely ruling out the fact that some people just want to play a game, regardless of it's anti piracy features. If you stop looking in black and whites, you might see some greys. And maybe you are right about it being a stupid metaphor. Maybe I should've picked a rent-boy instead...
Anyway, enough of this; "you idiots ruined it for everyone" discussion. My town needs attending.
Yes because the international "war" on terror is the same as the game market, right?. And i'm seriously worried about your obsession with prostitution... Please share with me the rent-a-boy metaphor since you apparently know a lot about this practice. Maybe you should give us a glimpse into your expertise on the subject.
And i'm not saying you idiots ruined it for everyone. But until people start sending a message with their wallets this shit will continue. Same goes for DLC's. And if you buy the game, regardless of what you say here, you are at least passively supporting this crap by buying it. But you can always say "fuck it" i don't care about DRM and that's fair.
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